Sebo automatic X1 1997

[turbo500]

Hey, I'm sure it works great for you, but it didn't here. That carpets are stuck down, hard wearing carpets. Use logic. The dirty fan design inevitably meant that the kirby would stick to it and that's exactly what it did. Matt didn't even use it whilst he was here and you being half way around the world in a totally different house with a totally different carpet have even less of a point to make.

At no point did I say that the Kirby is a bad cleaner. It's just totally unsuited to our home. It sticks to the carpets, it barely even fits down the side of our sofa and doesn't fit down the side of the TV stand or under the coffee table. I also find (and always have found) the tools to be complete farce.

Just because something is american and expensive is no reason why I should think it's the best thing in the world. Your opinion of it being the best is all well and good, but it doesn't make it a fact and doesn't mean everyone else should believe what you do. It doesn't work well for day to day use in my house. End of.

 

[matt8808]

I think you'll find i did use it whilst at your house, even if it was very briefly, as I clearly remember commenting how easily it glided over loop pile flooring with the tech drive in neutral compared to cut pile carpet. I guess you weren't paying attention at that point. Just like I clearly wasn't paying attention while it was 'ripping your rugs to bits'. Do you not think it's time to admit that you've been caught out spouting rubbish and get back into your cage? Instead you're still arguing and brining other irrelevant things into the argument such as the size of the machine.

The main issue here for me was you trying to belittle Tayabb and involving my name saying the machine was useless in your home, ripped up rugs and false claims over what machine your mum owns.

 

[parwaz786]

The main issue here for me was you trying to belittle Tayabb

It's fine, honestly. Can we put this behind us now a we have the new year coming up with Christmas just two days ago?

 

[turbo500]

Now who's talking rubbish. You were sat at the table whilst me and the other Matt tried the Sentria and it was HIM that commented on the tech drive not making that much difference.


 


Well, actually, you're wrong again. The main point was it seemed like Tayyab was making a judgement on a machine based on word of mouth and, as is pretty evident, opinion is subjective - what works for some people doesn't work for others so I thought it was important for Tayyab to try the machine out before spending a load of money on something he might not like. There's a reason why so many new Kirby's end of eBay - people buy the things being impressed by the demo, but soon realise how impractical and time consuming it is to use.


 


Seems like you're pretty bitter about having spent a fortune on something you barely use, I'm sure Tayyab doesn't want to feel like that.


 


And incidentally, not that it's ANY of your business, the Felix is absolutely still at my Mums, although it has been accompanied by a Vax Air Reach for upstairs, the eBay listing was ended early after Mum decided to keep the Felix for downstairs. But if you want to keep saying I'm wrong about a house you've never been to and 2 vacuums you've never seen, that's fine. You keep living in your head, hope you have fun.

 

[parwaz786]

Didn't I just say that we should out this behind us and start fresh? But I was not making a judgement on a machine based in word if mouth, just that the fact that it is dirty air obviously means there is more suction at the cleaner head than a clean air one. So the carpet will get sucked up to the brushbar and give it a good clean. I can sell the machine off if I do not like it, and if it does not get sold, I can just give it to a scrap metal dealer for cash. They are pretty heavy though.

Furthermore, I have said this before, and will say it again; I dont care how heavy a vacuum is to push. If it means ai have to push it so hard it is like pushing a fridge freezer on carpet, I dont care. I want a powerful vacuum that will actually work. You have given an anecdote about your experience with the Sentria, fine, I respect that, cool. But really this thread was about a sebo and now its about Sentrias :/

We really should forget that this happened because it won't really look good to argue like this especially at this time of year. 2015 is just 5 days away so people want to start fresh and make new year's resolutions. My personal New Years resolution is to study hard for my GCSE's so that I can go to College and do a particular course.

So why not just end it here and have a fresh start?



Back to Sebo's now then! Now where were we? Oh yes,
You can use sand paper to get rid of scratches on the plastic head and then buff it to make it shine Tom

 

[kirbylux77]

Turbo500 & Sptyks

I certainly agree with these members & their experiences with Kirby vacuums. Of all the Kirby's I own...my Classic III, Heritage, Heritage II, G4 & G6, I have found exactly the same faults. Namely that on certain types of carpets, the Kirby will either glide or stick to the carpet, no in between, & on other types it has a tendency to "skip & bounce" on the carpet & not make much contact. And if memory serves correctly, isn't this the main reason the bottom plate & brushroll were recently redesigned?

My Mom had this same experience using Kirby, Royal & Electrolux cleaners in her housekeeping business, there were times she could only use the Electrolux due to having issues with the Kirby cleaning the carpets in the client's home. Yes, Kirby's are great vacuums & deep clean well, but they are clearly not for every home.

Rob

 

[sebo_fan]

There we go, another challenging opinion

Thank you for your input Kirbylux77.

Tayyab it doesn't matter how heavy an upright is to you - however, having spent money on actual carpet that I saved up to buy and then fit in my parents home - there's a difference to buying a £1000 vacuum cleaner brand new versus twice that amount to having carpet purchased and fitting etc.

I would suggest that you leave off having a Kirby in your home. Berber is a loop style pile - thus and has Matt has suggested, a delicate brush roll is required, or better, straight suction only. Continually pulling on loops will make a carpet go hairy! This has happened to me in one of the rooms where I contnually test new uprights on - proof that not ALL carpets always require a brush roll going over it.

 

[matt8808]

Regarless of what people think of Kirby the main issue here is Chris and his inaccurate claims. So far he has backtracked from the Kirby tearing up two rugs to it briefly being used on one rug, yet the bag contents show no evidence of any rug shreddings. It's also gone from being useless, to difficult, to 'more of an issue the more he used it'. So what? It was fine at first and rapidly gained weight during use? Maybe you should join a gym and grow some muscles on those arms of yours. And now he's gone from selling his mum's Sebo on ebay to her still having it.

And yes Chris, I'm REALLY biter about spending so much money on one machine... That's why it's the second new Kirby I've bought from the dealer.

Anyway, I'm sure other people can make their mind up on who's being the most truthful... I'm not the one backtracking after all

 

[turbo500]

Oh you're so full of it! Where's any evidence that anything in that bag came from my house OR that it's the same bag, hmm?


 


And YOU brought up the thing about my Mum's Sebo, not that it has anything to do with you OR this discussion. I've not said anywhere here that it was sold on eBay, that's what YOU said. And you were wrong. See link - there is the eBay listing, started on 09/11 and ended after 3 days UNSOLD because my mother changed her mind. Sorry to p!ss all over your little bonfire.


 


But whatever, you believe what you like and live in whatever reality you want, I honestly couldn't care less. It doesn't change the fact that I still found your overpriced chunk of metal awkward to use and I'm not gonna coo over it and think it's flawless just because you spent a stupid amount of money on it. That's your problem.


 



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251707724700?ssPageName=STRK:MEUNSOLD:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1562.l2649

 

[parwaz786]

Oh I give up.

But thanks Narayan, I will get a Dyson DC41 Mk2 next year hopefully BTW we have loop pile caroet approx 7 years old on our landing and both flights of stairs. It is very easy vacuum, but like a normal carpet, there is still dirt in it. When I used my DC08 origin on the loop pile carpet, it did fine. Looked very clean. Then I went over it with my DC04 and there was a bit more dust that got picked up. Grey dust that came from the cream coloured carpet

 

[matt8808]

I brought up your mum's Sebo did I?

Please see reply #2.

 

[turbo500]

Yes...and she still has it! It was you who was adamant that she doesn't, which is not true.

 

[sptyks]

Tayyab,


Don't let crazy Chris scare you away from owning the best upright cleaner on the market today. As I said in another thread, Chris has a mean streak against Kirby and no one will be able to convince him otherwise.


 


As you mentioned before - You have thick plush pile carpet in your home, which is exactly the type of carpet the Kirby Sentria excels on. I am sure that you would be quite happy with the performance of the Sentria in your home.

 

[sebo_fan]

I dont think there is a "best vacuum cleaner available" though - they all have pros and cons, sptyks.

 

[parwaz786]

I guess I could give a Setria a try, just the main vacuum unit though and shampooer kit maybe. I dont really want the tools as I like Dyson suction from the hose as they excel with that for the car etc.

I'm going to wait for a nice working one to pop up on eBay locally. For £50 I seen one with no accessories and. I think it got sold :/ if I see one, I will go for it

 

[ilovehoovers]

Moving back to Sebo...

Have there been any ACTUAL changes to the X series since the X1. They all just look like they've had a facelift and a new EU motor.

 

[regularrett69]

nope

 

[durango159]

Newer motor???

If they have a new motor, I might be interested to try..

I have yet to use a Sebo/ Windsor machine on carpet and be impressed with the results. All of the ones I've used have cleaned terribly from brand news on display in vac shops to being used in the field.

The E series canister with Air Turbine nozzle was the only one I've been impressed with so far. The E series canister is very quiet but had quite a good amount of power. The turbo tool did ok, but the bristles need to be longer to touch the carpet better. If Sebo had a more powerful electric power nozzle that actually agitated carpet then it could be a winner. None of their uprights have impressed me at all yet.