Received the new Turbopower 1000 motor, but have a problem...

[jmurray01]

Well, I managed to cut the piece of metal at the top (with the hole in it) to the right size on one for the spade to slot into it but on the other I accidentally cut too much off so that's that buggered.

When I was cutting them apart though I noticed that above the fork that goes into the terminal on the motor there are... Guides ? Would that be the right word ? For the bare wire to "slot in" for soldering to the terminals.

I do believe in later years you yourself Benny said that they soldered the cables on instead of using the spade adapters, so that "figures" with the motor being from '99.

I guess I'll have to buy myself a soldering iron then and solder the wires on ?

But before I do that, I want to know if it will work in the end, since I'm a tightwad Scot and don't want to (can't afford even) to throw money at things that won't prove fruitful.

Then again, I could be completely wrong about them having to be soldered, check the picture for reference and see if you can spot what I'm seeing.

 

[jmurray01]

It is Sam, now that's food for thought... What would be involved in swapping the armatures over ? Just a screwdriver and half an hour or soldering et cetera ?

 

[beko1987]

Don't know tbh, on the 1980's, early 90's it comes apart with 4 screws!

From my early 90's U1222.

Of course, being from 1999 I imagine it's been welded together as one lovely non-serviceable part!

 

[beko1987]

the armature itself

 

[madabouthoovers]

swapping armatures aint easy - the main bearings are a bitch to get out, and i wouldnt want to even try as one is a different manufacture than the other one, and you could damage the new motor trying to remove the bearings - you also have to remove the fan and housing from the end to get to the front bearing. I would say not to try doing that.

 

[jmurray01]

No doubt Sam.

 

[beko1987]

Looking at your pictures, can you take the fan blade off? Will probably be an anti-clockwise thread, can't see the fan in your pics. The screws (if any) are likely to be hiding under there.

 

[jmurray01]

I think I'll leave that then!

So, is soldering going to work ? And if that does, will the actual MOTOR work with just the main wires and not the PCB ?

 

[beko1987]

saw the above post after I posted! Fair enough then.

Contact the seller, after checking that the ad said it would fit? I bought a NOS activator recently advertised as brand new. Sent the seller some pics of the dirty bearings and slight wear marks and he refunded me in full.

You may at least get a free motor to repair something else.

 

[madabouthoovers]

I am speaking with reference to a Dyson YDK motor here though as I tried to get one apart and wrecked it trying to knock the bearing out of its housing, and it still wouldnt come apart.

 

[beko1987]

Saying that, I've killed a TP bearing trying to get it out of the housing too to clean. Guess that's what part vacs are for!

 

[madabouthoovers]

Personally Jamie I would contact the seller as the motor is not fit for purpose and whats the point in having an autosense model if the autosense is not working? there is no guarantee that it will work even if soldered, so I would just find another way to temporarily attach the wires to the motor and try the switches to see if you get any life, but remember you are working with 240V so be careful!

 

[jmurray01]

Well he said in a message on eBay it would fit when I asked him and sent him my Serial Number.

I will ask for a refund now and see what's what.

 

[jmurray01]

Here is the email I've just fired off to him:

Dear Kevin,

I received the motor today to find that it, contrary to what you told me, is not compatible with my Turbopower 1000.

Firstly the terminals are not compatible with the spade connectors my TP1000 has and secondly there is not a terminal for the PCB my 1994 model has.

You said it would be compatible from the Serial Number and Model Number I gave you and to find it isn't was a little surprising.

I was just wondering how we could resolve this.

Best Regards,
Jamie.

I'm hoping he'll give me a refund and not ask for me to send it back or something because with the weight of it I couldn't imagine it being cheap to post.

 

[madabouthoovers]

No chance Jamie - He'll want it back and will probably pay the postage as its his mistake and you had to pay the postage to get it to you. Tell him it doesnt have the 12v tap off for the autosense PCB and without this the cleaner wont work. He may not realise its an autosense model, or just hasnt got the knowledge of each type of cleaner. At the end of the day, if you want it working, you will have to either buy the proper motor at ££££'s or wait until another autosense comes up and they can post it to you. Patience again I'm afraid, I know the young want everything yesterday - I was young myself once lol. One will come along one day and the best things come to those who wait.
Postage for a motor will probably be a tenner or so from Scotland, but he should refund the price of the motor plus return postage as the motor wasnt fit for purpose and it was his fault.

 

[jmurray01]

Contrary to what you believe, I do have patience Steve.

Heck, I did wait about 3 weeks for the motor and when I got it today didn't rush to try and fit it, but rather finished my cup of tea and enjoyed the rest of my already playing Roy Orbison cassette tape. Then I went to fit it and found I'd wasted £30!

I do know that a lot of "youngsters" of my age (though I don't see myself as a youngster, probably because I'm old before my years both mentally and physically - my joints aren't what you'd associate with youth) are impatient and therefore I understand your insinuation.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Its not wasted Jamie - its your right to a refund, and he has to honour that, as he doesnt supply the right motor for your particular model.
I only said you were impatient as you put the thread on at 13.20 today and by 20.30 you were getting impatient at not getting a reply. I like you Jamie, I've watched your youtube vids, and for a 17 year old you are very mature. I imagine its very lonely living where you do, and internet is a good form of communication, but people cannot be on vacuumland all the time to help you - perhaps you could make some more youtube vids of your vacs - always interesting to watch them lol

 

[jmurray01]

I see, well it wasn't pure impatience that influenced my "bumping" the thread but more anger to be honest that a tightwad like myself had spent money on something that won't be of any use.

Well I suppose you could call it lonely, but that's how I like it.

As for more YouTube videos, yes they will be coming but not daily or anything like that due to the fact they take around 4 hours to upload!

Yes - TalkTalk is a brilliant provider.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Did you get a reply to your email from the seller?

 

[jmurray01]

Not yet.