NZ Electrolux machines

[cheesewonton]

Here is a Euroclean Star, a Eureka Forbes copy of an old Electrolux.
https://external-content.duckduckgo...3b2cca2fe000f94a0794b8bd42c19e586b3179d88f2bb

 

[cheesewonton]

Interesting while poking around looking at Euroclean models I discovered that the Intelligence is sold in India as the Eureka-Forbes Euroclean Xtreme.
https://pricee.com/eureka-forbes-euroclean-xtreme-dry-vacuum-cleaner-price-in-india-54017

 

[cheesewonton]

Beko 2000 has a video of one of those old style Euroclean 2000s he disassembles to troubleshoot an intermittent refusal to run.

 

[ddk848]

The Intelligence is so fragile, especially the bottom, I have a hard time believing Electrolux AB designed it.

All of the plastics in the Sauber models seem to be very poor - the difference between a Lux 1 and the Sauber internally is like night and day - the sauber motor is just a single stage unit that is also used in wertheim, pullman, hoover and other backpack vacuums - definitely NOT a lux product. The plastics used in the base, lid and throughout the sauber are so thin and brittle that you can snap them by hand, or they shatter if exposed to shock. I tried to dismantle a sauber and things just ended up breaking apart, definitely not the sort of high quality thick ABS plastics used in the last of the Lux 1 Royal / 820 models. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sauber intelligence is one of the reasons that Godfreys went bust, so many warranty claims and pissed off customers who found bits of their $1500 vacuum would snap/break/shatter so easily. I didn't recongnise much Lux / Electrolux internals inside the Sauber. Most Saubers are now being sold on marketplace for $200 or less.

Thinking out loud, but because the Sauber was sold through Godfreys and it shares components with Wertheim/Pullman/Hoover vacs, would it have been commissioned by Godfreys and built by Wertheim etc? I remember when they first came out, Godfreys had old Electrolux 300 / 700 series vacs on display next to them in stores and were touting the Sauber intelligence range as the successor to the Electrolux vacs and a high quality vacuum that were just as good. Ironically you'd now pay more for a good / restored Electrolux than a Sauber.

 

[vacerator]

US dealers still show an off brand E-Lux Epic style plastic canister, but as out of stock or sold out. Optimum clean I think it is. $800

 

[paul]

Hey a lot of them looks very similar to the Eropean once with other colours or a bit different features. I have a lot of docs and pics on my Instagram or YT channel. Most of my appliances are made in Sweden.

Thanks for the photos and information. Until this thread I had only seen a UK AB Electrolux model list. Do you have a document showing the earlier Swedish cylinders, too? If so, I am interested in viewing it.

 

[cheesewonton]

All of the plastics in the Sauber models seem to be very poor - the difference between a Lux 1 and the Sauber internally is like night and day - the sauber motor is just a single stage unit that is also used in wertheim, pullman, hoover and other backpack vacuums - definitely NOT a lux product. The plastics used in the base, lid and throughout the sauber are so thin and brittle that you can snap them by hand, or they shatter if exposed to shock. I tried to dismantle a sauber and things just ended up breaking apart, definitely not the sort of high quality thick ABS plastics used in the last of the Lux 1 Royal / 820 models. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sauber intelligence is one of the reasons that Godfreys went bust, so many warranty claims and pissed off customers who found bits of their $1500 vacuum would snap/break/shatter so easily. I didn't recongnise much Lux / Electrolux internals inside the Sauber. Most Saubers are now being sold on marketplace for $200 or less.

Thinking out loud, but because the Sauber was sold through Godfreys and it shares components with Wertheim/Pullman/Hoover vacs, would it have been commissioned by Godfreys and built by Wertheim etc? I remember when they first came out, Godfreys had old Electrolux 300 / 700 series vacs on display next to them in stores and were touting the Sauber intelligence range as the successor to the Electrolux vacs and a high quality vacuum that were just as good. Ironically you'd now pay more for a good / restored Electrolux than a Sauber.

Wertheim like Hoover in Oz or Sauber are not vacuum manufacturers. They are just brand names Godfrey's owned and put on vacuums made by other companies. The Sauber Intelligence / Lux Intelligence / Aerus Guardian Platinum / Eureka-Forbes Euroclean Xtreme is made in Slovenia by a company called Kolektor ( at least there name is printed upteen places inside my two Guardian Platinums ) a company who's bread and butter are automotive electronics, big industrial power equipment ( think the stuff you see in a big electrical substation or hydro power plant ), robotics and production line automation. Making vacuums seems like an outlier for them just based on their public website. Their name comes from their historical line of work, operating mercury mines from Ottoman Empire times through the latter years of the Yugoslav Federation when they began to branch out.

That Wertheim 7 sold by Godfrey's is the same vacuum Simplicity sells as the Scout and that Airway Sanitizor sells as the Airway Ultra Kleen. It's also sold in the EU with Sattrap branding and in Iran as either the Persia France or the "Rugen Germany" RU-1110. Rugen Germany, made in China by Qingdao Creation Industry & Commerce Co Ltd.

Obtw, the motor in my 100 volt Lux 1R D820 that I bought in Japan is the very same single stage VM3 motor that so many revile. When I took it apart to replace the golf ball-esque outer skin and do a thorough clean up I was expecting to find the big two stage Swedish motor, especially considering its prodigious airflow and silent operation. So imagine my surprise when I opened the motor compartment to see that little conical motor sitting there. Still I can't argue with how it performs. It's one of the most powerful vacuums I have, spanks anything Electrolux Inc in the US ever made for suction and airflow, embarrasses my Mieles and Sebo C3.1 too, and is super quiet. Maybe the best vacuum ever made.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Since my last reply I have aquired a Husqvarna q2600h. I was wondering what the link between electrolux and husqvarna is? I have seen a greeny blue model with a suction control slider and on board tools , a charcoal gray model with a suction control slider boost button on board tools and turbo floor tool, Then there was the red Q260 with no suction control or added features and finally there is my model with on board tools and a two speed motor. The packets of bags I have seen list qualcraft as a brand which is even more confusing. The sauber intelligence was quite rubbish I think, when I went to the godfreys headquarters a few years ago they said that they stopped repairing them very quickly beause they would break when being shipped to Auckland.
I am looking at a few eletrolux machines, the first being a d820 with power nozzle, the second being a z55 and unknown model, the third being a 1934 z25 and the fourth being a 346.

https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/sauber-intelligence

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketp...bins/vacuum-cleaners/other/listing/5466301681

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[ddk848]

I'd definitely be grabbing that 346 and the 820 at those prices. We did get the 346 in Aus as well, I dismantled one years ago and it was the same colours.

With the 820, a common fault with those is that the power cord for the powerhead breaks where it connects to the machine end of the hose - if it is still working i'd recommend using a cable tie or something to hold it to the hose end and stop it flexing back and forth.

I'd be interested to see your Husqvarna, if it's the one that I'm thinking of it could be similar to some of the 'Eureka' branded vacuums we had in Aus, in the 1990s.

 

[cheesewonton]

Since my last reply I have aquired a Husqvarna q2600h. I was wondering what the link between electrolux and husqvarna is? I have seen a greeny blue model with a suction control slider and on board tools , a charcoal gray model with a suction control slider boost button on board tools and turbo floor tool, Then there was the red Q260 with no suction control or added features and finally there is my model with on board tools and a two speed motor. The packets of bags I have seen list qualcraft as a brand which is even more confusing. The sauber intelligence was quite rubbish I think, when I went to the godfreys headquarters a few years ago they said that they stopped repairing them very quickly beause they would break when being shipped to Auckland.
I am looking at a few eletrolux machines, the first being a d820 with power nozzle, the second being a z55 and unknown model, the third being a 1934 z25 and the fourth being a 346.

https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/sauber-intelligence

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketp...bins/vacuum-cleaners/other/listing/5466301681

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/613363678192940/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp:07bcac9e-cc2e-478b-9773-

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I buy motors like that directly from Domel for around $50-$55 US Dollars each.

 

[cheesewonton]

I'd definitely be grabbing that 346 and the 820 at those prices. We did get the 346 in Aus as well, I dismantled one years ago and it was the same colours.

With the 820, a common fault with those is that the power cord for the powerhead breaks where it connects to the machine end of the hose - if it is still working i'd recommend using a cable tie or something to hold it to the hose end and stop it flexing back and forth.

I'd be interested to see your Husqvarna, if it's the one that I'm thinking of it could be similar to some of the 'Eureka' branded vacuums we had in Aus, in the 1990s.

Buy the K-35 hose. It has the wires inside the hose. There is a short pig tail from the hose to the canister and a plug with an on off switch on the hose handle for the cord that runs down the back of the wand to the power nozzle.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/28668312933...R1RGfqqAo1r3hDpv/D3wlIDQ==|tkp:Bk9SR6yK7bWVZg

 

[cheesewonton]

There is also this little gem, an adapter that lets you run your D820 with the electric hose from a Lux Intelligence Premium or the Powerprof electric hose. They you use the nice all metal Intelligence telescopic wand and a choice of Lux PB1 or Sebo ET2 power nozzles.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/31661723139...i1ho90tnE0CAKIr/K8NdjtiA==|tkp:Bk9SR7LQhLaVZg

 

[eluxfan71]

All of the plastics in the Sauber models seem to be very poor - the difference between a Lux 1 and the Sauber internally is like night and day - the sauber motor is just a single stage unit that is also used in wertheim, pullman, hoover and other backpack vacuums - definitely NOT a lux product. The plastics used in the base, lid and throughout the sauber are so thin and brittle that you can snap them by hand, or they shatter if exposed to shock. I tried to dismantle a sauber and things just ended up breaking apart, definitely not the sort of high quality thick ABS plastics used in the last of the Lux 1 Royal / 820 models. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sauber intelligence is one of the reasons that Godfreys went bust, so many warranty claims and pissed off customers who found bits of their $1500 vacuum would snap/break/shatter so easily. I didn't recongnise much Lux / Electrolux internals inside the Sauber. Most Saubers are now being sold on marketplace for $200 or less.

Thinking out loud, but because the Sauber was sold through Godfreys and it shares components with Wertheim/Pullman/Hoover vacs, would it have been commissioned by Godfreys and built by Wertheim etc? I remember when they first came out, Godfreys had old Electrolux 300 / 700 series vacs on display next to them in stores and were touting the Sauber intelligence range as the successor to the Electrolux vacs and a high quality vacuum that were just as good. Ironically you'd now pay more for a good / restored Electrolux than a Sauber.

I made the same experience with the European Lux Intelligence…the plastic is very thin and it breaks easily. So for me it has nothing to do with Electrolux AB anymore. They were designed completely different to what i know from Electrolux.
The vacuums cleaners sold here as Electrolux (ultra one for example) at the same time, were made much better with high quality plastics.

 

[cheesewonton]

I made the same experience with the European Lux Intelligence…the plastic is very thin and it breaks easily. So for me it has nothing to do with Electrolux AB anymore. They were designed completely different to what i know from Electrolux.
The vacuums cleaners sold here as Electrolux (ultra one for example) at the same time, were made much better with high quality plastics.

I have a close cousin the Ultra Silencer. Really nice piece of equipment though complicated to disassemble for cleaning. In the US they came with a power nozzle but alas there are no longer any parts available for them. No brush rolls, no belts and genuine Electrolux filters are becoming hard to find. Another beautiful vacuum I have to park for lack of normal wear items.

 

[eluxfan71]

I have a close cousin the Ultra Silencer. Really nice piece of equipment though complicated to disassemble for cleaning. In the US they came with a power nozzle but alas there are no longer any parts available for them. No brush rolls, no belts and genuine Electrolux filters are becoming hard to find. Another beautiful vacuum I have to park for lack of normal wear items.

We had the version with PN too. But here the „entry“ ultra one is still on sale. And the filters are the same as the new generations use, so no problem to get anything. On PN I don’t know, as it is good 10 years out of sale. But we don’t use PN as we nearly have only hard floors

 

[cheesewonton]

We had the version with PN too. But here the „entry“ ultra one is still on sale. And the filters are the same as the new generations use, so no problem to get anything. On PN I don’t know, as it is good 10 years out of sale. But we don’t use PN as we nearly have only hard floors

European Excellios and I believe some Volta Geminis could be ordered with a Wessel Werk EBK280. Also the Volta Mega. But they had one loooong cord from the power nozzle all the way up the wand and down the hose to the canister body.
A clever soul can put an Electrolux K35 hose from a D720 through D795 on the Volta Mega and Electrolux Z457 and run it with a Ze3 power nozzle.

 

[eluxfan71]

European Excellios and I believe some Volta Geminis could be ordered with a Wessel Werk EBK280. Also the Volta Mega. But they had one loooong cord from the power nozzle all the way up the wand and down the hose to the canister body.
A clever soul can put an Electrolux K35 hose from a D720 through D795 on the Volta Mega and Electrolux Z457 and run it with a Ze3 power nozzle.

 

[eluxfan71]

Yes right the PN and K35 was sold separately. But the K35 was not fitting the Volta Mega or the Excellio as they had an other hose connection with one button on the side. So the K35 was only sold as Lux.
But at that time there was also a rechargeable battery driven PN. Also the air driven was available

 

[eluxfan71]

Thanks for the photos and information. Until this thread I had only seen a UK AB Electrolux model list. Do you have a document showing the earlier Swedish cylinders, too? If so, I am interested in viewing it.

 

[cheesewonton]

An example of that very first Electrolux vacuum came up for sale late last year in Denmark on an internet auction site but it was local pick up only. No shipping. I don't think I would have remained married if I flew to Denmark to buy a vacuum so I had to let is slide.