My older M1 with the cast bag hlder doesn't have the switchguard cup.The NSS folks did sell a "chapel cleaning kit" that could be used with the Pig or Designer Dry vacuums.The kit had everthing need for cleaning-floor tools and attachments-high up wands for cleaning HVAC vents and organ pipe chamber grills.
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That kit is still listed as such in the accessories catalog. I can't find the 2in hose set for it tho, the type sold to Theatres for cleaning up the trash movie watchers leave everywhere. A good friend of mine in Utah remembers using one sometime in the early 90s I'd guess in an old small town theatre. It was an old gray one with the 2in hose setup and they had the tool I'm using on mine as well as a gulper tool. He preferred the regular tool like mine as it seemed to get the carpet clean while the gulper tool got all the bulk debris it didn't do much for actually cleaning the rugs.
Nowadays on the Film Tech website-a website for some cinema supplies and a talk forum for theater operators and projectionists-they now say in between shows the cleaners no longer use vacuums-they use leaf blowers to blow the stuff to one part of the auditorium-then shovel it into tash cans or bags.The vacuums would be used for more "detailed" cleaning say during the night when the theater has closed-and done by an outside contractor or janitorial service.The NSS "gulper" tools were used on other NSS vacuums besides the Pigs-they were used a lot for their Wet-dry vacs.Besides theaters the gulpers were good in shps for picking up wood shavings,sawdust,and metal shavings and turnings.Great for metal recycling.Oh yes for the older Bronco vacuums-you could get an attachment kit for the motor unit and a small bag for it so you can use it like a "hip" vacuum-the hose adaptor even had a small snout scrap trap like the pig so heavy stuff wouldn't go into the Bronco motors fan.Sadly these are no longer made.Would love to have an older Bronco outfit!!
ultralux88
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What my friend told me is that they'd sweep all the trash down the rows and onto the carpeted isle and then vacuum it all up. If it were me I'd have gone down the isle with the gulper nozzle to pick up all the large trash and then switch to the other one and come back up the isle with that to give the rugs a good cleaning. They aught to just use the leaf blowers in vacuum mode and suck it all up! Lol.
That Bronco sounds like a great versatile vacuum. Too bad they are no longer made. I remember in the 90s Granger sold a vac by Tornado that was advertised to do the same things. I loved the idea.
That Bronco sounds like a great versatile vacuum. Too bad they are no longer made. I remember in the 90s Granger sold a vac by Tornado that was advertised to do the same things. I loved the idea.
I have the Tornado "Task Force" vacuum-its VERY powerful!Would love the NSS Bronco to go with it-the Bronco is prettier!External filter Wet/Dry vacs don't clog quickly-all of the bag filter area-better than the internal pleated filters.
A concern I would have for cinema cleaning-are you sure you want to blow stuff around with the perfed vinyl screen at the front of the auditorium?the static charge always on screens would attract the fine dust-making you do screen cleaning/replacements more often-some of those screens cost over $6.00 per Sq Ft!Often the back of the screen can be CAREFULLY vacuumed to get the dust off the back-its cloth.Would make sense to use a leafblower that can vacuum-its larger fan could gulp down bigger trash better than the Pig.Plus the blower intake tubes are like 4" diameter.The cinema cleaning we are talking about is that between showings-you may only have 15-20 min to do it.So the method has to be quick.The more thorough cleaning would be done after the theater has closed for the night.And yes,there are services that can clean theater screens.Its not cheap to have done-but cheaper than getting a new screen.And the theater may have to be down for up to several days or so to have the screen replaced.A screen can last thru several cleanings-what helps prolong their lives is not allowing smoking in the auditoriums.And for digital projection the perfs are smaller or arranged in a different pattern than for film projection so the perfs don't show by "aliasing" with the digital pixels.
A concern I would have for cinema cleaning-are you sure you want to blow stuff around with the perfed vinyl screen at the front of the auditorium?the static charge always on screens would attract the fine dust-making you do screen cleaning/replacements more often-some of those screens cost over $6.00 per Sq Ft!Often the back of the screen can be CAREFULLY vacuumed to get the dust off the back-its cloth.Would make sense to use a leafblower that can vacuum-its larger fan could gulp down bigger trash better than the Pig.Plus the blower intake tubes are like 4" diameter.The cinema cleaning we are talking about is that between showings-you may only have 15-20 min to do it.So the method has to be quick.The more thorough cleaning would be done after the theater has closed for the night.And yes,there are services that can clean theater screens.Its not cheap to have done-but cheaper than getting a new screen.And the theater may have to be down for up to several days or so to have the screen replaced.A screen can last thru several cleanings-what helps prolong their lives is not allowing smoking in the auditoriums.And for digital projection the perfs are smaller or arranged in a different pattern than for film projection so the perfs don't show by "aliasing" with the digital pixels.
ultralux88
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Something I know very little about. But I do know that I'd prefer not to blow all the dirt around in the air as that just doesn't sound clean.
If I had to do the theater cleaning I wouldn't want to blow the debris around either for the reasons I mentioned-and may not be healthy for you,either.What "stuff" lurks in that cinema debris??I would prefer to vacuum it up as well.Guess some theater cleaners don't do it that way-guess they feel the "blow&shovel" the stuff is faster.I would try using the Pig and or Leaf blowers in the suction mode-but keep in mind leaf blower vacuum bags don't have the filtration the Pig's bag has.Be good if someone made up a bag for the blowers that would filter better than their stock bags designed to vacuum leaves and garden debris.
ultralux88
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That's true, the genuine NSS paper. Age actually do filter pretty well as they are lined. And the cloth bag is very dense on mine, I'd imagine it alone does fairly well on filtration.
Leaf blower bags that I have are almost netlike in appearence-so any fine dust will blow thru-remember these were meant to be used outside for vacuuming leaves-not for theater or other indoor cleaning.Yes,the filter bags for the Pig are far better in filtration than leafblower bags.Esp if you use the paper bag in the cloth outer one.At one time NSS-when they had the "Horse" logo dump bags and the zipper top cloth ones for the paper bags.I have two types of dump bag-the standard denum style dump bag-and a thicker "woolen" style bag for better filtration-the woolen bag was recommened if you used the pig for boiler tube cleaning.The Bronco could be used for that,too.The woolen bags trapped ash better.I don't use these bags-just have them in my collection and keeping them clean.
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I've got the woolen type bag on my M-1 and my M has the denim bag, but it seems like in some areas at least it has more than one layer.
how do you get an aftermarket power nozzle to nss m-1 pig
Sorry guys am new to the forum and thread. I personally saw the pig also when I was in junior high and found them to be really cool. I did find a pig on craigslist and picked it up as quick as I could. Anyway wanted to find out how to connect a power nozzle to the pig.
Sorry guys am new to the forum and thread. I personally saw the pig also when I was in junior high and found them to be really cool. I did find a pig on craigslist and picked it up as quick as I could. Anyway wanted to find out how to connect a power nozzle to the pig.
The Denin bag material NSS used was thicker than usual denim cloth.Even it trapped dirt and dust really well-you just had to dump the bag after each use.
For the problem of Pigs and powernozzles-A few things-does the Pig you obtained have the power nozzle "pigtail" cord on the back of the motor housing?If not you can't use it with a powernozzle unless you provide another source of power for your powernozzle-and the powernozzle should be able to fit 1.5" commercial vac hoses and wands-1.25" residentual powernozzles won't fit unless you get adaptors.The NSS power nozzle kit was $375 when I bought mine to go with the NSS Pig Carpet Vacuum.That is the model that has the powernozzle connection.It is a 15A 120V DIN type connector(same as on the back of your computer)I am sure the price of the powernozzle kit is higher-bought mine about 20 yrs ago.You can experiment with ways to connect powernozzles to your machine-if you can get 1.5" commercial turbonozzles you could use that.Have seen one cleaning contactor that used Pigs and he had 1.5" air turbine type nozzle that ran from the Pig airflow.Don't remember what the brand of that nozzle was.Was large,heavy plastic,white in color and had beater bars besides brushstrips.When I tried his it worked really well.That would be a good option for a Pig without the powernozzle connector.
For the problem of Pigs and powernozzles-A few things-does the Pig you obtained have the power nozzle "pigtail" cord on the back of the motor housing?If not you can't use it with a powernozzle unless you provide another source of power for your powernozzle-and the powernozzle should be able to fit 1.5" commercial vac hoses and wands-1.25" residentual powernozzles won't fit unless you get adaptors.The NSS power nozzle kit was $375 when I bought mine to go with the NSS Pig Carpet Vacuum.That is the model that has the powernozzle connection.It is a 15A 120V DIN type connector(same as on the back of your computer)I am sure the price of the powernozzle kit is higher-bought mine about 20 yrs ago.You can experiment with ways to connect powernozzles to your machine-if you can get 1.5" commercial turbonozzles you could use that.Have seen one cleaning contactor that used Pigs and he had 1.5" air turbine type nozzle that ran from the Pig airflow.Don't remember what the brand of that nozzle was.Was large,heavy plastic,white in color and had beater bars besides brushstrips.When I tried his it worked really well.That would be a good option for a Pig without the powernozzle connector.
ultralux88
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I'd love to find out what sort of turbonozzle you used. I've seen Turbocats with a wand that was 1.5in but at the very end where it connected to the head it went down to the smaller 1.25in size. Could that be it? Generally I don't miss a PN much, as it moves so much air that I can hear it deep cleaning all the sand and grit from deep in the carpet. The nozzle I have been using does well on surface cleaning too even lint and hair comes up easily. Eventually I plan on replacing the nozzle shoes on it with the lint lifter version which just have a bunch of cuts in the back shoe that give it the same kind of combing and fuzz/hair grabbing ability that the gleaner bar on the old Lux rug tools have. The nozzle with the way the shoes have an edge on the inside that let them kind of grab the fibers and pull them up like a brush might do, so it even grooms the nap too. It really seems to clean well. I'm wondering how well it really is doing tho, so I'm thinking tonight I might use my Big Power right after I use the pig to see how dirty the water gets. I might also use the 2 speed E Series too. I know it'll be a water filter vac tho.
I have Turbocat air powered nozzles-they will work on the Pig with adaptors-but not real well-the Turbocats seem like they were designed for 1.25" residential canister vacuums that have LOW CFM but higher suction "pressure"The tool that cleaning contractor had did have the 1.5 connector. there were no adpators.Kept asking the man where he got the nozzle he was using but couldn't get an answer.Wanted one.I have a heavy plastic powernozzle sort of like what that man had-but mine is for 1.25" hoses and wands.It will work on the Pig but slowly.Will have to look at it to see what brand it is-think it was the forerunner to Turbocats.I have the White colored Turbocat and a white one.They work really well on my Nilfisk GS80 vacuum.The Nilfisk has become another favorite of mine along with the Pig.I am planning on getting the straight suction NSS carpet tools from the dealer in the near future.Would like to try one.On my DEEP pile carpet-bet its going to be a workout.
ultralux88
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Make sure you get a lint lifter tool, that will give you the best results. The tool really doesn't push very hard at all. It glides over the carpet very well. The only time it's hard to push is on small light rughs that the surface of the rug seals to the tool, like some of mom's braided rugs or the bathroom rugs. Regular carpet is fine.
Will have to go thru my NSS catalog and website-remember they have several "flavors" of carpet floor tools for Pig and their other vacuums that can use the same tools.Would like to consider the 12" or smaller width if they have it-better for homes where you have lots of furniture and other stuff to vacuum around.The bigger tools are for commercial areas-that are larger and less furniture.I don't have any small rugs or bathroom ones so the tool should be OK.In the summertime here-the humidity makes bathroom mats feel like you are stepping on a damp swampy thing-don't like it-and they don't dry out well here despite I use an air conditioner.Bathrooms in my place don't have exhaust blowers like other homes I have lived in.
ultralux88
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They make the lint lifter in a 12in version as well as a 16. The plain shoe tool I've got is a 16 and I have a 12in magnesium shoe tool as well. The lint lifter is definitely the way to go if you want the vac to pick up lint and hair and stuff well. You'd be surprised how easily the wider one moves around between furniture and stuff. I didn't get to choose what I got as a friend gave it to me but I was happy just to get a rug tool better for my carpet.
A tool gotten for free is best-becuase NSS tools are EXPENSIVE!So I will need to choose the one I need-haven't looked yet.Suppose their website would have the best and most up to date information-My NSS tool catalog is many years old.I am sure if the "lint lifter" tool helps pick up lint&hair-it will help pick up other stuff,too.Glad you were able to get the floor tool you needed at the RIGHT price!
ultralux88
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And I got the other rug nozzle and wand used for $60 so I saved a lot there too. The only thing I've bought new from an NSS dealer was the bag clip. The hose was $30 off eBay and is in great shape. And the machine was only $25, which I still am pinching myself over! But lucky finds and cheap deals are what made the majority of my collection.
Used commercial type vacuums and parts are not easy to find on the open used market-usually they used to their deaths.Of course there is EBay and Craigslist-don't use either becuase there is just too many shisters and high price fixers on both.Glad you have good luck.I just don't like using those sources.Too risky to me.
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