New wool loop carpeting...need suitable canister type.

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My biggest offender in that case is the Riccar Supralite

Probably a good reason to use no more than an "air powered" head in my case! I was looking at a Dyson DC-50 which is one of their lightweight uprights and it employes an air head. The brushes are very soft and I can't imagine that it would do damage to carpet. It appears pretty cheaply made, so I'm not sure that's the way to go. Hate buying "disposable" vacuums every 3-4 years.
 
Scott MacMillan who is Singingrainbow here on the forum from Georgetown Tx., could help you out with your concerns. I don't know if he's still working part time in a vac shop, but he could refer you nonetheless. Only problem is he does not display his email in his profile, and you can't send a private message on here without being a supporting member. Maybe he will see this and respond.
 
The riccar

Has the option to use delicate horsehair brush strips if your model has the metal brush. I believe they have delicate brushroll for non metal brushrolls as well.

The dc50 is powered by a direct drive motor not air. In turbo brushes you loose a lot of airflow due to the small opening. The dc50 would be a good candidate if you don't mind an upright, the only downside to that machine is the cord is fairly short. It's built very well, and by keeping up with regular maintenance it should last well beyond 10 years. It's one of my favorite new dysons, I'm not by any means an avid dyson fan either.
 
I could change the brush roll

But with 20 other machines in the house, I never bothered. The Miele Quickstep works fine with the regular rug/bare floor nozzle on the flat carpet in question. the PN will rip a line, however.

Rip a line, sounds like something from a drug culture.
 
ctvacman, thanks for calling me on the Dyson DC-50 head

You're right, I remember thinking it was such a compact head that it must be an air drive, but the damned motor is on the inside of the roller. ;)
 
Simplemind, As was mentioned above I work for Georgetown vacuum. We have had many customers looking for vacuums that can clean these new types of carpeting and have had alot of luck with the Miele canisters. We would be happy to show you all the different Miele models in person, explain the differences, and we would even let you take home one of our floor models to try in your own home.


 


I know the drive from Austin to Georgetown isin't the most fun, but this would allow you to use the machine before you buy it.


We are located at 3010 Williams drive in the Williamsburg shopping centre, right next to the goodwill.


 


Let me know if you have any questions.


Scott MacMillan
 
Nilfisk floor head

Yes, sort of. In Europe it goes under several different names including "Deluxe Kombi." Similar floor head that both SEBO, Miele and BOSCH also fit their canisters/cylinders.

Only difference here is that the one I bought has a removable clip on it if you don't want to use the park position. Also handy for stick vacuums and all brands with a 32mm size fitting.

I think Nilfisk also make one suitable for 35mm.

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singing rainbow aka Scott, thanks for the offer. We may be in the GT area in the next few days, and we'll drop by.

Sebo_fan, yes that head looks so similar to the Miele and looks like it would do the job. Thanks!
 
@simplemind

That Electrolux floor tool you remember that your mother had is still in production today, it's still included with the TOL Aerus Electrolux canister. It's a reversible tool so it can be used on bare floors with the bristles or flipped over and used as a straight suction tool on rugs. This tool can be used with any canister vacuum of your choice as long as it uses a standard size wand, and can be purchased from Aerus or online for around $60. It works quiet well on low pile rugs which is probably why it's been in production for more than 50 years. Below is a picture of the nozzle that I found on Google, I don't have a picture of any of my own on my iPad

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Electrolux floor tool

OMG, that does bring back memories! I do remember it flipping over as well. Thanks for the memories!
 
By the way, We are open ten to five thirty weekdays and ten to two on Saturdays. I will be there this Saturday and comming Monday.


I hope we can help you!


Scott
 
Electrolux Dust Magnet nozzle is excellent. It has 4 wheels and it can be used on the hard floors without bristles down. Suction plate where the suction channels are is spring loaded and it adjust according to the surface. Bristles are also spring loaded. 4 wheels make it much easier to move across the carpet. Front and side suction is also very good.
Definitely worth a try.

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Scott, we were in today, and you were still in class, however Troy gave us a very good dissertation on the Miele s6, s8.

My OP stated looking for canister. Just found papers that apparently were rolled up in the carpet and left by the carpet layers. It was from UCL (Unique Carpets, LTD) it was kinda funny...stating "DO NOT USE ANY VACUUM MADE BY ORECK OR DYSON AS THESE WILL CAUSE EXCESS FUZZING. NO CLAIMS WILL BE ACCEPTED WHEN THESE VACUUMS ARE USED". Wow, they didn't sugar coat it!
They went on to say they recommended a Sanitaire SC888, which is an upright. Arrgh...why did I get wool???
 
Yeah, Sanitaires have agitation that's right up there with Royal and even more intense than Kirby, Miele, Sebo or most any of the others, certainly more than any Oreck or Dyson I've seen. The VG1/VG2 brush roll is a beast. Though that's not the first I've heard about Dysons degrading carpets, but from every Dyson brush roll I've ever seen, I can't imagine *how*.

Then again, if Sanitaire is indicative of what they expect you to use, but you want a canister, that puts Riccar/Simplicity squarely at the head of the pack again.
 
I don't know about this particular manufacturer, but some carpet manufacturers recommend vacuums like Sanitaire, Kirby, Royal Metal uprights, (I am sure there are more I just am giving examples.) because you can set the highth of the nozzle at a certain level and leave it there. Floating heads tend to plow in on some carpets like Frizze (shags) and make them difficult to push and pulls the fibers.

Whereas the above mentioned machines, along with the others I missed that have manual highth adjustments, you can adjust the nozzle to just contact the nap or slightly float above. I have noticed that the Simplicity/Riccar uprights have some models that you can lock the nozzle at higher levels with still a little float, this would be helpful in these instances I would think.

Just a theory, probably wrong, often am. Continue
 
When we brought home our Eureka Model 2083 Rugulator Upright in 1974, our home was covered with expensive wall-to-wall wool broadloom. Though that top-rated Eureka had the fantastic Vibra-Groomer helix beater bar brush roll, the vacuum never damaged our carpeting. It could be that the motor was weaker than current similar Sanitaire uprights (3.5 amps versus 7 amps), but we used that beautiful golden Eureka every week for at least 10 years without any damage to the carpet fibres. And it cleaned the rugs beautifully....
 
As I said, I sold (and my employees installed) carpet for number of years. I can tell you that ANY carpet WILL fuzz (berber-closed loop less so) with ANY vacuum that has even moderate amount of agitation.

The fuzzing will stop once the carpet "wears in". Still,....I don't recommend berber in any house with pets. Spending money on top end carpet is not wise with house populated by pets, babies, toddlers, etc. Regardless of how well they are trained, accidents WILL happen. Berber is extremely hard to wash with extractors (and they also agitate!), because the twisted closed loop yarn retains/absorbs a lot of liquids, and holds them.

Since I have four dogs, and three cats coming in and out, I opt for moderately priced , cut pile carpet, that can be washed MANY times, and replaced every 3-4 years without breaking the bank. From my avatar you can see that certain areas in my home are covered with area rugs. If the accident happens on the area rug, I take it outside and deal with it. My animals are extremely well trained, and I still deal with 3-5 accidents a year.

Oh, and just to add,......Kirby "Rug Renovator", "Carpet Shampoo System", or whatever they call it these days, is totally USELESS on spills, and/or "pet accidents". Works well on dirty carpet from the normal foot traffic, but doesn't do anything for the spills.

Some of the posts above are right on the money in suggesting mild (non motor driven) agitating brushes. I know what kind of challenge is to select the right carpet/machine combo, in accordance with the living habits.
 
Berber is the

Worst carpet and hardest to clean your right Daniel next is Frieze' with this carpet it is so hard to push most vacuums through the thick pile plus most stiff brush rolls shread the carpet fibers .

My grand parents had wool carpet and used a Hoover Convertible and later a Hoover Elite and the carpets looked brand new 35 years later when they passed and we sold their home .

Dan
 
My sister has brand new Berber in her family room.

She just replaced 20 yr old Berber . She has only ever cleaned it with a HOOVER Dimension. She had 2 babies, 2 cats, and a Golden Retriever, all who grew up in that house. That HOOVER with a pn did a great job on that carpet.
The other rugs in the house are 100%wool Orientals. Hoover never let any of us down. Just sayin'
 
Decision time

Give that I have limited availability of some of the "recommended" units, I think I'll will go with Miele, either the 8390 Calima or the 8590 Alize.

Not sure which is the best option, however I'm leaning toward the Alize (same price). I can alway add a parquet brush if the Air-Teq 650-3 doesn't cut it.

My reasoning for the 8k series is 1) larger bag 2) tools kept inside 3) rubber bumper
 
I think you will be very happy with your choice. And I agree about the s8 series, I really like them for the reasons you mentioned.


 


I don't know if Troy mentioned this or not, but we can match any online price for a Miele and we throw in an extra pack of bags or two with purchase. I'm glad we could be of help.


Scott
 
The Alize is a great choice - the top rated suction only canister in the latest Consumer Reports ratings.

You may think this is crazy, but the spotlight on the handle is an amazing feature! Why didn't someone think of this before? It's a brilliant idea - pardon the pun. I got one with my Miele S8 Fresh Air and you'd be surprised how helpful it is... Dark corners, under beds, dark drawers, etc. It will probably come in very handy when I clean the car interior, too.
 
I adore my Miele S8 but I bought one which doesn't have the Spotlight handle which I was at two minds with, anyway. Our UK market Miele vacs don't have names, but rather, model numbers and additional names where applicable; the same colour of the Alize is the one I have, known as S8340 Ecoline.

Im very pleased with it though I find the 650 floor head far too heavy to work with; I use a far older floor head, but Miele's newer replacement, the SBD285-3 is far more effective without half the effort; I notice it comes as standard with the Calina.

The U.S market Miele's do offer better spec though - Dynamic drive wheels which are self sprung for example and an auto suction setting.

The spotlight handle is a good idea - in theory. There is no clear way of turning it off though which wastes the battery.
 
The Spotlight shuts off after a minute or two so I don't think it really burns up the batteries that much. It's just enough time to shed light on a really dark area or corner....I find it's enough time to help spot any dirt I might be missing.

I prefer the heavier AirTeq carpet nozzle - it helps put pressure on the carpet and it also has a nice rubber bumper which prevents scratching of baseboards and furniture. It feels very sturdy too.

The Fresh Air is also packaged with the extra long 2 foot flexible crevice tool which is a fantastic attachment!
 

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