New wool loop carpeting...need suitable canister type.

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Ah yes..."pulling the line"! I guess I was fortunate with the previous synthetic berber as that didn't occur once in 20 yrs (yes, I know, 20 yrs. for carpet...yuck.
But now with the wool I'm feeling like I need to be overly cautious, hence the discussion about which vacuums.
 
The miele 217 is very delicate, I would use it on lower suction so it doesn't really stick to the carpet. Or you can get delicate brush strips for simplicity machines.
 
@marcusprit: Main reason, for me, is that both Miele and Riccar/Simplicity vacs seem to move quite a bit more air than their Sebo equivalents. Also, the Tacony PN and the EBK360 used on some Mieles (SEB228, IIRC) have *fantastic* agitation, better IMHO than the Sebo ET1. Mind you, the ET1 isn't bad by any stretch - this isn't good vs bad, it's outstanding vs excellent, I think.

I can't say I've done a truly scientific comparison - I don't really have the equipment to do so - but my Simplicity Verve pulls more dirt, especially heavy grit, behind my Kirby Heritage II than when I run them in the other order. Last vacuum wins and all that, but the Simplicity seems to budge the heavy stuff better than the Kirby, and the general consensus is that Kirby does a pretty darn good job.

When I try the same comparison between the Verve and a Filter Queen 95x with an EBK360, it doesn't seem to much matter which one goes first, the other gets about the same amount and kind of dirt. I'd expect an EBK360 on a Miele to be similar, though I don't have a Miele to test with. A friend of mine does, though (the Kona, IIRC), and she loves it.
 
I have the Miele 216-3 (same as the 217). I found that suction setting greatly affects how delicate (or not) it is. Lack of height adjustment is a problem on the medium to high pile carpets. It has fixed "low pile" height setting so on the higher pile carpets it dive to the carpet and carpet fipers suck in to the brush roll.
Reducing suction helps this issue alot.
Sorry for posting video again, but this is close up what I mean on the full suction.
 
I forgot to add

You could always get a canister with a PN and use it once a month just to get the deep stuff. But based on how low pile the carpet island the fact that wool cleans up easy a suction only would be ok if you used it everyday. then like I said use a mild PN once a month and you shouldn't be wearing it anymore than you or the dogs walking across it.
 
You may think im crazy...

But, I would use a straight suctionnozzle such as a Filter Queen, or a Rainbow Jet rug tool, for a power nozzle, I would use a PN1 or PN2 Electrolux.The small opening plus soft brush cleans well but is very gentle.
 
I would use a straight suction nozzle such as a Filter Queen

If these had a chrome/stainless base plate, I could easily see why these would work well. I don't see plastic or a brush bottom gliding over carpet very easily. I remember my Mom's Electolux of the 1950's had a head like that. However to find this setup today might be quite a challenge especially to get it to all fit together nicely.
 
You're right. It was a problem I had with my new Numatic Henry - it came with a plastic soleplate which on my wool carpets didnt make gliding easy. Bought a Nilfisk floor head on recommendation and it works beautifully now without the scraping sound and feeling from the handle. Also glides like it should.
 
I have a Berber in one bedroom upstairs, I have always vacuumed it with a Kirby and not had any problems. It is, however, a lower traffic area so less chance of snags to begin with.

Now the one carpet I have had trouble with pulling a line is the Indoor/Outdoor carpet in the basement. My biggest offender in that case is the Riccar Supralite grabbing a string and it's ripped half way across the room before I get the vacuum shut off. I always wondered if the Riccar's stiffer brush roll is the cuse of the grabbing, but I don't have the issue with any of the lux power nozzles or the Kirby.
I did have the Miele Quickstep grab a string the other night and it's brush roll is not that stiff so maybe it's just random.
 
My biggest offender in that case is the Riccar Supralite

Probably a good reason to use no more than an "air powered" head in my case! I was looking at a Dyson DC-50 which is one of their lightweight uprights and it employes an air head. The brushes are very soft and I can't imagine that it would do damage to carpet. It appears pretty cheaply made, so I'm not sure that's the way to go. Hate buying "disposable" vacuums every 3-4 years.
 
Scott MacMillan who is Singingrainbow here on the forum from Georgetown Tx., could help you out with your concerns. I don't know if he's still working part time in a vac shop, but he could refer you nonetheless. Only problem is he does not display his email in his profile, and you can't send a private message on here without being a supporting member. Maybe he will see this and respond.
 
The riccar

Has the option to use delicate horsehair brush strips if your model has the metal brush. I believe they have delicate brushroll for non metal brushrolls as well.

The dc50 is powered by a direct drive motor not air. In turbo brushes you loose a lot of airflow due to the small opening. The dc50 would be a good candidate if you don't mind an upright, the only downside to that machine is the cord is fairly short. It's built very well, and by keeping up with regular maintenance it should last well beyond 10 years. It's one of my favorite new dysons, I'm not by any means an avid dyson fan either.
 
I could change the brush roll

But with 20 other machines in the house, I never bothered. The Miele Quickstep works fine with the regular rug/bare floor nozzle on the flat carpet in question. the PN will rip a line, however.

Rip a line, sounds like something from a drug culture.
 
ctvacman, thanks for calling me on the Dyson DC-50 head

You're right, I remember thinking it was such a compact head that it must be an air drive, but the damned motor is on the inside of the roller. ;)
 
Simplemind, As was mentioned above I work for Georgetown vacuum. We have had many customers looking for vacuums that can clean these new types of carpeting and have had alot of luck with the Miele canisters. We would be happy to show you all the different Miele models in person, explain the differences, and we would even let you take home one of our floor models to try in your own home.


 


I know the drive from Austin to Georgetown isin't the most fun, but this would allow you to use the machine before you buy it.


We are located at 3010 Williams drive in the Williamsburg shopping centre, right next to the goodwill.


 


Let me know if you have any questions.


Scott MacMillan
 
Nilfisk floor head

Yes, sort of. In Europe it goes under several different names including "Deluxe Kombi." Similar floor head that both SEBO, Miele and BOSCH also fit their canisters/cylinders.

Only difference here is that the one I bought has a removable clip on it if you don't want to use the park position. Also handy for stick vacuums and all brands with a 32mm size fitting.

I think Nilfisk also make one suitable for 35mm.

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