sebo_fan
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Here is a diagram showing the motor protection filter which sits above the dust bag in the new VK200
NEW Vorwerk Kobold VK200
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sebo_fan
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I adore my VK130. I love the handle adjustment and so light to use on carpets and hard floors. I also bought two PN heads because the EB350 doesn't have the pop out squeegee and additional brushes at the front. EB351 does.
marks_here
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Thank you as I got it new with the duffle bag full of accessories Plus I also have both of those too but the EB 350 works but the red light blinks on it like there's a fault, took it completely apart, checked everything & nothing's jammed on it, called Vorwerk California & they never sold that model here & wondering how I got which is none of their business to which they were no help what so ever & they only have some parts up to the VK 122 here. I'll have to wait to get the new one when I go to the UK or my friend does & she can send it to me.[this post was last edited: 6/23/2016-20:36]
eurekaprince
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But Nar, a top-fill bag does not need to compact dirt to the sides in order to maintain a clear path for the air-flow. The dirt, both large and small, falls to the bottom of the upright bag and therefore it moves out of the way of incoming airfow. Most bag-first vacuums have bag compartments designed with fins that spread the suction all around the bag so that suction is maintained as the bag fills from the bottom upward. I actually like the suction "tower" of the Sebo uprights that seem to ensure strong clear suction all the way up the side of the compartment. 
sebo_fan
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I hear what you are saying, but I find bag designs are different per brand and different as per the suction airflow and general bag holder in the first place. With mine, the bags are kind of curved and tapered in the VK130/131 so the dirt tends to land at the top of the bag (bottom when it is reversed) and the sides creating space in the middle for dirt to form and then collect with other dirt.
This is more apparent with the synthetic material dust bags I managed to find online. The Vorwerk paper bags I bought are awful - Marks - perhaps you might know this already as they tend to clog up faster and don’t fill up as much.
I also replaced the foam protection filter with a piece of black thin foam after experimenting with a Miele Super Air clean filter. The stiff black foam is usually used for cooker hoods- the suction is much better, doesn’t allow the bag to fill up so much and the synthetic dust bag lasts a lot longer.
Sebo dust bags are different. They are designed to fit as close as possible next to the filter roll so that the only room is available to accommodate a full bag as it fills.
Marks - I also went online to buy the EB351 and it has no permanent operation light that comes on which is a malfunction. It doesn't affect performance though, so I'm happy about that but strangely the light will flash if anything gets caught on the brush roll.
This is more apparent with the synthetic material dust bags I managed to find online. The Vorwerk paper bags I bought are awful - Marks - perhaps you might know this already as they tend to clog up faster and don’t fill up as much.
I also replaced the foam protection filter with a piece of black thin foam after experimenting with a Miele Super Air clean filter. The stiff black foam is usually used for cooker hoods- the suction is much better, doesn’t allow the bag to fill up so much and the synthetic dust bag lasts a lot longer.
Sebo dust bags are different. They are designed to fit as close as possible next to the filter roll so that the only room is available to accommodate a full bag as it fills.
Marks - I also went online to buy the EB351 and it has no permanent operation light that comes on which is a malfunction. It doesn't affect performance though, so I'm happy about that but strangely the light will flash if anything gets caught on the brush roll.
eurekaprince
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Thank you for that post, Nar. On an aside...I guess now that the UK is leaving the EU, British vac makers can now go back to offering 2000 watt motors! :-D. Good for Numatic!
sebo_fan
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Well I'm in Scotland, so we're remaining! As far as I know Numatic have never offered 2000 watts but I hear what you are saying.
gsheen
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I actually rather like the look of it, Its just a pity that they are still stuck in their antiquated ways of no on board attachments. The new design has a nice spot for a decent hose. I think its absurd that in todays market a company will still offer a top of the line vacuum that requires you to carry the vacuum around in one hand while using the attachments with the other. At least Kirby you can attach the hose without needing to hold the vacuum in your hand.
Thats why you can get 25 year old voorwerks with all their attachments still virtually new , because they are just to much of a pain to use.
Other than that I like the look of the new one, The vk140 was a disaster machine, Too Noisy to flimsy and they were by far the most unreliable vorwerk after the Vk130 and 135. Considering they sold in low numbers here, we still see 3 or 4 a month totally broken.
Thats why you can get 25 year old voorwerks with all their attachments still virtually new , because they are just to much of a pain to use.
Other than that I like the look of the new one, The vk140 was a disaster machine, Too Noisy to flimsy and they were by far the most unreliable vorwerk after the Vk130 and 135. Considering they sold in low numbers here, we still see 3 or 4 a month totally broken.
turbo500
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British vac makers can now go back to offering 2000 watt
Slightly off topic, sorry, but the only British manufacturer left is Numatic have have never made a vacuum that powerful. Highest they ever wet to is 1200w. They also have a huge market across Europe, so I don't see them making 2 different motors for the markets here.
It's not clear yet what, if any, EU law will still apply. Nothing will change for 2 years whilst we negotiate out. It's going to be a very interesting couple of years.
Slightly off topic, sorry, but the only British manufacturer left is Numatic have have never made a vacuum that powerful. Highest they ever wet to is 1200w. They also have a huge market across Europe, so I don't see them making 2 different motors for the markets here.
It's not clear yet what, if any, EU law will still apply. Nothing will change for 2 years whilst we negotiate out. It's going to be a very interesting couple of years.
marks_here
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Educate me please
Is this going to help everyone out in the UK now that you're independent or is this going to hurt for a short time. I just hope it was for the right reasons because I love going over there plus if your economy goes down I can always do more shopping while I'm there to help boost it up a bit
Is this going to help everyone out in the UK now that you're independent or is this going to hurt for a short time. I just hope it was for the right reasons because I love going over there plus if your economy goes down I can always do more shopping while I'm there to help boost it up a bit
sebo_fan
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Things are up and down at the moment. Scotland has remained, the rest of the UK want to leave. At the moment general public are confused by the Mickey Mouse antics displayed by the politicians.
Back onto Vorwerk talk, the adaptor arrived today from Amazon UK as did a suction combi floor head that allows my old Vorwerk to turn into a straight suction stick. I am impressed with how light the whole thing is with this type of floor head tagged on. The VK130 is light enough with the PN anyway, but this suction combi floor tool makes things even lighter and the pick up is good with the setting 2 or highest from the motor.
The suction combi is also the same floor head that is fitted to the Tiger canister vacs also by Vorwerk. There's a split channel on the suction channel but in reality its one main suction channel and presumably aids gliding with the central bar across the dust channel. Less likely to clog too.
I also received a Vorwerk bag with a lot of attachments and Kobosan brush cartridges. The hose is non-electric but to be honest I find the whole idea of the tools a bit cumbersome and time consuming. I dont mind the tools and they don't get used that often - same with putting the SEBO Felix into hand held mode - good idea in theory but in reality too cumbersome.
Back onto Vorwerk talk, the adaptor arrived today from Amazon UK as did a suction combi floor head that allows my old Vorwerk to turn into a straight suction stick. I am impressed with how light the whole thing is with this type of floor head tagged on. The VK130 is light enough with the PN anyway, but this suction combi floor tool makes things even lighter and the pick up is good with the setting 2 or highest from the motor.
The suction combi is also the same floor head that is fitted to the Tiger canister vacs also by Vorwerk. There's a split channel on the suction channel but in reality its one main suction channel and presumably aids gliding with the central bar across the dust channel. Less likely to clog too.
I also received a Vorwerk bag with a lot of attachments and Kobosan brush cartridges. The hose is non-electric but to be honest I find the whole idea of the tools a bit cumbersome and time consuming. I dont mind the tools and they don't get used that often - same with putting the SEBO Felix into hand held mode - good idea in theory but in reality too cumbersome.
sebo_fan
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Here's me old VK130
gsheen
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I have the original straight suction attachment for that machine somewhere, Its a odd design, almost half mood shaped. I will try and post a pic of it tomorrow
sebo_fan
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That's interesting to know.
I have a half moon shaped hard floor brush which has a reversible side with fixed polishing pads on it. Can't be used on carpets though and I find it is too flexible and not all that controllable.
I have a half moon shaped hard floor brush which has a reversible side with fixed polishing pads on it. Can't be used on carpets though and I find it is too flexible and not all that controllable.
vorwerkfan
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Vorwerk USA
Hi, guys!
I was really pleased when I bumped into this site. I hope someone will help with ideas and suggestions...
I'm a big Vorwerk fan, I had several generations, years ago I was also a Vorwerk sales person...
I recently moved to NYC from Europe and wanted to buy a Vorwerk-no chance, they don't sell it here anymore. They stopped after the VK 121. Any ideas why? I even tried to contact them with no success in discovering why they are not present nor if they are coming back.
I want to purchase a Vorwerk and after seeing the VK 200 i realized what that that's what I want. Great improvement, I love the new Kobosan auto dispensing brush!
My major concern is, wheater to buy it in Europe, ship it and use it with a power converter (step up 110 to 220 transformer) how does that sound to you?Anyone using a vacuum with that kind of converter?
Thanks to this page I discovered the Seba vacuum which features similar characteristics but I don't find it that functional as Vorwerk not to mention that the design is incomparable ...
Thank you for your help!
Hi, guys!
I was really pleased when I bumped into this site. I hope someone will help with ideas and suggestions...
I'm a big Vorwerk fan, I had several generations, years ago I was also a Vorwerk sales person...
I recently moved to NYC from Europe and wanted to buy a Vorwerk-no chance, they don't sell it here anymore. They stopped after the VK 121. Any ideas why? I even tried to contact them with no success in discovering why they are not present nor if they are coming back.
I want to purchase a Vorwerk and after seeing the VK 200 i realized what that that's what I want. Great improvement, I love the new Kobosan auto dispensing brush!
My major concern is, wheater to buy it in Europe, ship it and use it with a power converter (step up 110 to 220 transformer) how does that sound to you?Anyone using a vacuum with that kind of converter?
Thanks to this page I discovered the Seba vacuum which features similar characteristics but I don't find it that functional as Vorwerk not to mention that the design is incomparable ...
Thank you for your help!
vintagerepairer
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"Is this going to help everyone out in the UK now that you're independent or is this going to hurt for a short time. I just hope it was for the right reasons because I love going over there plus if your economy goes down I can always do more shopping while I'm there to help boost it up a bit "
The truth? No one knows anything as there is nothing to compare it to. And right now nothing has changed at all.
The truth? No one knows anything as there is nothing to compare it to. And right now nothing has changed at all.
madaboutsebo
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Welcome vorwerkfan.
Nice to see another Vorwerk Kobold fan! Love my Kobold VK150 as much as my SEBO Felix.
Nice to see another Vorwerk Kobold fan! Love my Kobold VK150 as much as my SEBO Felix.
