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kinda odd like that...

well, I'm kinda strange i guess. I just like supporting Kirby and I like using genuine products. I kinda feel like using a generic bag in a high end vacuum would be like taking my Infiniti to a jiffy lube or wal-mart for maintenance. I like the whole experience. :) I have no doubt that the generics work just as well, it's just an idiosyncrasy of mine. Besides, it gives me a chance to pop into the various vac shops around town to see what might be lurking in a corner for sale :).
 
Kirby Bags may be expensive...but they sure do filter well. The brown paper looking bags are awesome and I am now just trying to use the cloth type...so far, not a spec of leaked dust...

And your not shaking out a dirt cup and having it all come back in your face...no matter how carefull you are, any of the bagless machines with filters or cyclones...you still have to mess with a certain amount of yuck! With my Kirby, you remove the bag, take a damp cloth and wipe the inlet tube...boom your off and running for another month.

My only complaint with my Kirby is that my house is not big enough...the Kirby doesn't work well here for that reason. However, neither would a Dyson due to the bulky head on it.






Morgan
 
I guess it doesn't look as bad as I thought it might... wonder how true to that design the real one will be. I think it will be good to have the bag in the back so the Kirby won't tip to one side when full. I'm glad they will be keeping the power drive and excited about the prospect of a power nozzle, I've often wondering about the first real upright/canister in one machine. Not so crazy about the loop style handle though, I've never liked those.

Wow, Morgan, you wipe the inlet tube when you change the bag? That's pretty clean! I know what you mean about small places... the Kirby and Dyson both are hard to fit under things. I have a small 1 bedroom apartment, and in small spaces, frequent changing of direction is required. With the weight and transmission in the Kirby, I feel like I'm backing up a bus when I have to change directions... it should really beep when reversing. Due to the transmission, I have gotten my toes a few times on the back stroke (usually with the power drive dial-a-matic more than the Kirby has done it too).
 
By the way

... It's hard for me to even comprehend a new Kirby at this point... I've never even touched a Sentria yet!
 
Kirbys ...can't beat 'em!!!!

I have to agree completely with Morgan. I have not found any vaccuum as clean and odor free as the Kirby with filtrete bags including Electrolux which I sold for 4 years in college.

I find the enclosed cases with bags develop an odor unless you use a new bag each time. The dirt cup, bagless indeed are impossible to empty without getting some mess back at you.

But the bagged uprights with a cloth bag seem to avoid getting an odor. I found this especially with the filtrete bags. You can leave them in for a month and they remain fresh.

Of course I still use my Luxes...they are so classic...but... if I had to choose it would end up being my Kirbys first.

I use the Filtrete bags on my G-6, Legend, and a 519 fitted with a Legend II Mini-emptor and assembly. They are great!

As far as the new Kirby...its fascinating to me what they seem to be doing with it from the drawings presented in this thread. The "power nozzle," is intriguing. Like to see the rest of the planned attachments.

The shampooer seems to have gotten some improvement; but hard to tell exactly what they have in mind for collecting the dirty suds. It says there is a tray..but I couldn't see it. I wonder if the bag is going to come off the handle or if there will be another handle just for the shampooer??? The bag looks pretty fixed into the handle..but then its a Kirby--the first "transformer...!"

I wonder about the floor buffer..always liked that. And with so many more hardwood floors, surely they will not abandon that item. In fact, I can't imagine them not giving the hard-floor care a bit of a boost. So maybe there is more to come; but from what I read in the text above they didn't mention it.

I would definitely trust Kirby to land on its feet and come up with a first rate cleaning machine.

Bruce,
Memphis, TN
 
The info on the PROPOSED Kirby is interesting-and unique.Truely a change from the "G" platform.I do like the "powernozzle" attachment-but DON'T like the external cord wrapped on the hose-PATHETIC for a machine like a Kirby.The wires should go into the hose like the other makes.Much better.The Powernozzle would be handy for places the regular upright config won't fit.Why not put a separate motor in the main carpet nozzle too?eleiminate that complex Rube Goldberg belt system.Quite contrary any vac including the Kirby outer bags will pick up odors in time.Esp if the user cleans up after some types of "smelly" dogs.You will have to change bags more often-have the outer one cleaned or replaced-and have the fan and fancase washed regularly.And with the new wired roller drive system-separate motor-we could have a motored hand tool as well.No more air powered ones.And they could bring back their hair clippers-again with the electric motor and connected to the hose so the airstream picks up the hair clippings as they are cut-Kirbys answer to the Flowbee!And a motorized "Handy Butler toolkit.That could be more powerful than the air powered one and could do some serious work.I am looking forward to whatever new model Kirby introduces-We just have to HURRY UP AND WAIT!!6 Months sounds about right-with the Kirby dist I have dealt with-the new models were introduced in the spring-typically to one city as a "test Market"If it works well in the test market-the machine is then distributed nationwide.I am sure the Kirby guy here will call me when the new model does come out-for the area I am in I did buy among the first of the Sentria customers.
 
If TTI bought up or "obtained" Kirby it would be the kiss of death for Kirby-Under their name Kirby would turn into another cheap plastic Chinese vacuum.I am thinking TTI is to vacuums-what WCI was to major appliances.
Another thought on that new proposed Kirby-it would appeal more to people whose homes have "mixed" flooring.The traditional Kirby is great for folks that have acres of wall-to-wall carpets in their house.Another thing for that Kirby-make a straight suction floor nozzle with brushes on the rear nozzle lips.Perfect for large hard floor areas.
 
"DON'T like the external cord wrapped on the hose-PATHETIC for a machine like a Kirby. The wires should go into the hose like the other makes."

Well yes I agree, but this is Kirby's first attempt at an electrified hose. For what a customer pays for one, I think the wires should be hidden as well. While they do make a superior machine, once again Kirby is LATE TO THE GAME. They didn't start using a disposable bag system until 1979! Air-Way had one 59 years earlier. Hoover already had one thirty years prior.
 
Remember, the drawings are illustrative of the specific technology relevant to the patent, and do to necessarily represent the exact final appearance of the product...
 
wow

This looks like one of the most interesting kirbys Ive ever seen

this could be a new changing point for design

i.e. classic, generation series

Charlie
 
Dealer Info

I just bought a new Sentria yesterday, and the dealer brought it over - no demonstration needed for me obviously. Well I had asked him if he had any information on the new model coming out but he simply stated "Well Kirby is always coming out with something new you know..." - Not sure if he really didn't know much about the new model coming out, or if he is just not allowed to disclose any details.

He is an older guy, has been in the business for about 25 years - Since this is an Eastern Iowa Kirby dealer, they may not be up on the latest and greatest as much as say a larger city would with possibly one or more dealers.

While I do like to see new things evolve, I can't say that anything about these patent drawings have given me any urge to wait. I quickly grabbed a Sentria before they are gone. (I know there are others of us here who feel the same :-) ). It will be intersting to see how the new model really is once it comes out. I however, have been through hell and back a few times on first generation products, not just vacuums. I decided to go with the tried and true, and I'll just sit back and watch the newborn evolve.

Andrew
 
I'll stay with my 1-C thank you!

I have little interest in NEW stuff! I said it before, I'll say it again, give me a 1-C, 2- C and so on up to the D-80, from that point on, too new!

Alex Taber
 
New Kirby design

The smaller bag for portable use is not new, it dates all the way back to straight-suction Health Mors, Royals,and Electro-Hygienes.

The power nozzle outlet has been installed om Kirbys before, just not at the factory. It allows much more through lint and hair pickup under beds, and the use of an electric mini nozzle for stairs and upholstery.

The new design appears simpler to use, but more likely to suffer damage from careless use.

It will be interesting to see.

BTW Kirby sales are doing well here, with an averge price of 1200.00 with a trade in. ALL eight of the local vacuum shops sell a ton of Kirby belt, bags and shampoo.
 
Looked the bag feed from the suction fan-this looks like a potential clog area-lets see-toothpicks,wads of dog or people hair,or small wads of paper-I know people expect the vacuum to pick those up.And the intakes look like they could clog too-they don't have the large intake openings like the other Kirbys do.I would be concerned about the complex-"Rube Goldberg" brush belt drive system for the carpet nozzle-better to replace all of that mess with a motor.Kirby would go Twin Motor!That would be much better-I can see that drive system pictured to become a NIGHTMARE for Kirby owners and repair techs.Since the attachments have some sort of electrical connection-the 2nd motor makes more sense.
 
It does, but now the $64,000.00 question is will we EVER see it? I thought the prototype machine shown above would've been the new Avalir. Sadly, that ship has sailed and it ended up being just another warmed over Generation series machine. After 27 years, it's definitely time for a change.
 

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