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turbo500
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well, not necessarily. Homebase is owned by the Home Retail Group, which also owns Argos. They sell a lot of furniture and housewares as well as DIY materials. Last time I was in there, they had a whole range of vacs
rolls_rapide
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Hoover.co.uk
I see that the Hoover website tells lies.
The Purepower models in blue and also in red, purport to have a bag check indicator in the "Features / Benefits" list. Not according to the magnified zoom function, they don't.
The blue model is described as "microfilter filtration". According to the zoom function, it is actually HEPA.
Oh dear, they never seem to learn, do they? I wonder who doesn't check copy properly?
I see that the Hoover website tells lies.
The Purepower models in blue and also in red, purport to have a bag check indicator in the "Features / Benefits" list. Not according to the magnified zoom function, they don't.
The blue model is described as "microfilter filtration". According to the zoom function, it is actually HEPA.
Oh dear, they never seem to learn, do they? I wonder who doesn't check copy properly?
sebo_fan
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The reason for high pricing.
Hoover.co.uk seldom check their listings and yet they use reevoo.com to support their products, never checking sometimes that the majority of the reviews for some of the models advertised receive poor ratings. Sadly Hoover UK website is nothing short of shocking for mistakes, and tells a lot to the interested consumer who is about to buy one of their products.
Many years ago yours truly worked for Comet and then John Lewis as a merchant product buyer. I did the job quite well but then I discovered as to WHY franchises advertise the machines so highly.
Folks, they do so because each company like JL, Comet et al buy the products direct from the manufacturer, usually at elevated prices and not before any discounts. As soon as the first stock of products are sold, the companies then compete with one another on pricing to attract buyers.
That is the reason to why prices fall and rise - one only needs to look at the Vax website and www.very.co.uk to see the changing prices before looking at the high street names like Comet, Currys, JL, House of Fraser's, Argos etc.
Some franchises are also fed up with price comparisons where the consumer will haggle over pricing to get the lowest deal. This is why, effectively John Lewis got fed up with buyers demanding cheaper prices for the Sebo X4 Extra - one of JL's best sellers for upright vacuums. Thus, why the Sebo X4 Excel exists - it is an exclusive model that is only available from John Lewis.
Hoover.co.uk seldom check their listings and yet they use reevoo.com to support their products, never checking sometimes that the majority of the reviews for some of the models advertised receive poor ratings. Sadly Hoover UK website is nothing short of shocking for mistakes, and tells a lot to the interested consumer who is about to buy one of their products.
Many years ago yours truly worked for Comet and then John Lewis as a merchant product buyer. I did the job quite well but then I discovered as to WHY franchises advertise the machines so highly.
Folks, they do so because each company like JL, Comet et al buy the products direct from the manufacturer, usually at elevated prices and not before any discounts. As soon as the first stock of products are sold, the companies then compete with one another on pricing to attract buyers.
That is the reason to why prices fall and rise - one only needs to look at the Vax website and www.very.co.uk to see the changing prices before looking at the high street names like Comet, Currys, JL, House of Fraser's, Argos etc.
Some franchises are also fed up with price comparisons where the consumer will haggle over pricing to get the lowest deal. This is why, effectively John Lewis got fed up with buyers demanding cheaper prices for the Sebo X4 Extra - one of JL's best sellers for upright vacuums. Thus, why the Sebo X4 Excel exists - it is an exclusive model that is only available from John Lewis.
rolls_rapide
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Hoover Purepower Greenray upright
I see that this energy saving upright has disappeared. The Freedom Greenray is still there, though.
The parts are probably reused in the new silver and red model mentioned above.
I see that this energy saving upright has disappeared. The Freedom Greenray is still there, though.
The parts are probably reused in the new silver and red model mentioned above.
rolls_rapide
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"The parts are probably reused in the new silver and red
Looking at the Argos site for the new silver and red Purepower model, the zoom magnifier reveals a green extension tube tool holder! So I think I have answered myself. The "Greenray" frugal model seems to have been discarded, and the parts reused in the new energy-guzzling model.
The silly fools should fit a variable power control, then they could advertise it as eco-friendly; in the process also making the machine more user friendly (who on Earth needs full power when hoovering curtains?). Reduced suction would also reduce the violent pull-back when cleaning stairs.
Looking at the Argos site for the new silver and red Purepower model, the zoom magnifier reveals a green extension tube tool holder! So I think I have answered myself. The "Greenray" frugal model seems to have been discarded, and the parts reused in the new energy-guzzling model.
The silly fools should fit a variable power control, then they could advertise it as eco-friendly; in the process also making the machine more user friendly (who on Earth needs full power when hoovering curtains?). Reduced suction would also reduce the violent pull-back when cleaning stairs.
sebo_fan
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Yes, but when do Hoover ever listen? There isn't a conventional upright on the market bar the Miele S7 that has a variable suction control. That would be too hard for Hoover to do, otherwise they'd have done it by now. I miss the bag fill indicator light that the original Pure Power models had - Hoover just keep blanking off the indicator plate on all of their PP uprights now, and it looks horrendously cheap.
Im still keeping my beady eye on the look out for the new Hoover Telios Plus. It is already on the continent but the UK don't seem to have that machine, for the moment.
Im still keeping my beady eye on the look out for the new Hoover Telios Plus. It is already on the continent but the UK don't seem to have that machine, for the moment.
sebo_fan
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Woohoo, sure enough Currys have got the new Hoover Telios in stock. Shame it has a 2300 watt motor! That's more than the Sebo K1 or Miele S6 or S8! However it only costs £90 for the moment.
Shame it also has a 3.2 litre dust bag and a decibel rating of 77.
Shame it also has a 3.2 litre dust bag and a decibel rating of 77.
rolls_rapide
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2300 Watt?
The legend on the cleaner in the photo says 2400W!!!
The legend on the cleaner in the photo says 2400W!!!
sebo_fan
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I used the wrong photo lol. Well spotted! There is a 2300 watt version too lol. But still, Hoover is obviously not caring for the environment by making it have a 2400 watt motor, higher than Miele. Still, at least some of their uprights have lower power output.
sebo_fan
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The videos are everywhere - clearly Hoover have done their homework well to include all sellers of this product to have the video shown - trouble is, if you have owned a Slalom already (which i had) the experience is very familiar. It is a pity that the floor head can't slide under that very precious looking glass table they show in the video though.
True, BUT, at least it gets my approval in terms of being low wattage.
I may buy one some time.
It is good to see Hoover advertising a Vacuum Cleaner which has low watts rather than taking the easy route and advertising something like the 1600W Turbo Power or 2200W Dust Manager et al, to use your phrase.
I may buy one some time.
It is good to see Hoover advertising a Vacuum Cleaner which has low watts rather than taking the easy route and advertising something like the 1600W Turbo Power or 2200W Dust Manager et al, to use your phrase.
sebo_fan
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Good luck there. I just looked at the Globe online - it may well be low wattage but it has a 85 dbl rating - no thanks - that has to be the highest Ive ever seen in a long time.
sebo_fan
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Sadly its the same with a lot of products these days - I found that with my Miele S6 Ecoline. It has a 1200 watt motor compared to the standard 2000 watt models - and it was a higher priced offering than the basic blue one Miele sell - plus the Ecoline is noisier. Sadly not all low watt vacuums are the same though, but it seems that most mass brands are elevating the price on low power - when there was a time when the opposite was much cheaper back in the day.
rolls_rapide
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Noise
I don't understand how they can make a 1200 Watt machine noisier than a 2000W!
We only have to look to the Hoovers and Electrolux cylinder machines of the 1980s, to see that 1000W cleaners could be very quiet indeed (Hoover Sensotronic from 1982, Hoover Alpina from the 1990s). So it must be to do with a reduction in sound insulation, a single wall structure only (Sensotronic had double wall), and lack of soft motor mounts.
The EU should clamp down on the noise generated by machines. There is no excuse. The manufacturers could use a little more reticulated foam diffuser between the motor exhaust and the final filter.
I don't understand how they can make a 1200 Watt machine noisier than a 2000W!
We only have to look to the Hoovers and Electrolux cylinder machines of the 1980s, to see that 1000W cleaners could be very quiet indeed (Hoover Sensotronic from 1982, Hoover Alpina from the 1990s). So it must be to do with a reduction in sound insulation, a single wall structure only (Sensotronic had double wall), and lack of soft motor mounts.
The EU should clamp down on the noise generated by machines. There is no excuse. The manufacturers could use a little more reticulated foam diffuser between the motor exhaust and the final filter.
sebo_fan
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Well if the EU are going to do that with machines, it should include hair dryers. For those who moan about high watts in a vacuum cleaner, the latest hairdryers on the market are 2200 watt and rising - how can that be safe on your ears??
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