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Quite right Jamie - Made by the same crap company that made the Grand O washing machine which had a tendency to explode their inner drums at maximum spin - wiping out the entire machine and most of the kitchen around it! Their build quality is lousy - although I did have an earlier Candy washer from the 90's and it wasnt too bad, but wouldnt touch Hoover or Candy washers now though with a 40 foot bargepole. LG washer for me I'm afraid gotta love the quietness of the direct drive.
Vacbear - I like bagged cleaners and do have several of them - I only dislike the turbopower junior because of its odd shape with very large foot area and no headlight. I dont mind the TP2 and 3 not having a headlight as they are very good looking cleaners, and very rugged as well - they also had other gizmos such as bag check light (well most of them did anyway) and the autosense which i love.
I have my eye on a TP1 on Ebay at the moment - in Manchester, we will have to see how that goes, as it has the tools with it too.

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Just to clarify

The TP Junior I am talking about is MUCH later, 1999 or later (I think it might be U1620 or something like that) - scroll down the thread on the link and you will see pictures of it. SeamusUK supplied some interesting information on the cleaner but I can't find that right now, but the motor is significantly higher wattage than on the earlier models and the suction is amazing

Al

http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?7130
 
I've actually spotted a Turbopower Junior (soft bag) on eBay that I am keeping an eye on.

No bids as yet so I might put a bid in if it doesn't go higher than the start bid, though that is wishful thinking I know.
 
Just checked that thread Al and I have to say, what a gorgeous Junior!

I never knew Hoover still produced them in '99.

It is strange to think that when Dyson were making their super modern looking DC04 Hoover still had a soft bag available!

Amazing...
 
Al - that junior of yours - what does it say on the serial number plate about the manufacture date? its just that they stopped making the dirty fan TP models in the early 90's, and it amazes me to see a dirty fan Hoover from as late as 1999.

Jamie - I've seen that TP junior on Ebay, its not far from me, but looks very well worn - you'd be busy for hours cleaning that up! Long time to wait though its got 9 days left to run!
 
I wish I had enthusiasm for the TP Junior but of the three I had, the handle always snapped off before long right at the top before the metal rectangular spine - and yet my Junior U1104's never had that issue.


 


Miele and Sebo have always used bags because as Calum (Rolls_Rapide) quite rightly points out - the Germans have always preferred using bags for bagging the dirt as well as keeping an eye on the industry where cleanliness & optimum hygiene is required. Hence Sebo with their commercial products and Miele's lack of desire to go down the commercial route, but have a unique position in developing and producing medical cleaning equipment. It has only been Bosch in the last couple of years who decided to go bagless, first with their VX/Vax merged upright, the AVC1 (and later renamed VX series) but its good they still have a healthier, larger amount of bagged vacuums against their bagless models. 


 


 
 
I hope Bosch dont make a thing of Bagless, as the current canister model looks like nothing but high maintenance due to being single cyclonic - dont they ever learn that these type of cleaners are a waste of effort?

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They probably are a wasted effort - but this just proves my point that brands are just wanting to make extra money rather than design a product that benefits the buyer and who are we to argue? At least Bosch are giving buyers an alternative to their bagged vacuums for buyers who don't want bags.


 


I like Bosch products, but not all of them - what I do like about Bosch is that you used to be able to buy a TOL dishwasher bearing their name and being substantially cheaper than the comparatively same Siemens model that you'd pay a lot more money for just because it has a different finish and the brand name - an approach that John Lewis constantly do with their larger Electrolux derived appliances - they constantly promote their products being made in Germany as a way to cash in on other brands reliability record - its a pity then, that my old rented flat washer (a John Lewis washer) was made in China, regardless of the promise JL said at the time.
 
I dont think Bosch are as good now as they once were - I looked at the Bosch bagged canisters in Currys and thought they looked cheap and nasty, and they are cheaper now than ever, but its competition again at work.
I have a Bosch Excel slimline dishwasher, and in the 6 years I've had it its been perfect - never a problem. I bought an end of Line Siemens Z6 Power canister cleaner for £179 brand new, which is still in its box, as for some reason, Siemens have pulled out of the Vacuum market in the UK, and these models, well made as they are will become rare in the future - its rated at a whopping 2500W full power!
Most of their models are now Bosch branded, but I dont think the quality is as good.
 
I've got a Bosch SKT 5102 tabletop dishwasher which I absolutely love. It is really reliable, durable and performs brilliantly.
 
Well the date on the instructions says nothing to be honest since they could have been re-printed prior to selling off lots of old Juniors, your one included which were made up to 10 years before perhaps.

If you manage to get the Serial Number at some point I'm sure you'll know what to do (first three numbers after the Model Number).
 
I must admit I found it amazing to think they would be producing the dirty fan model several years after the rest of the range were converted top clean fan models, but then, they carried on making the ford escort long after its replacement was launched (the focus) so sometimes illogical things do happen.
 
"Pure Power and Dust Managers with a rehashed AutoSense

Do you have any idea when they will go on sale?
 
TTI -is TechTronic Industries-its often abbreviated here.You see TTI on Hoover,and Royal items and literature.Vac shops my way are refusing to stock the current Royal metal uprights until they can again be made in the US.The dealer will order it for you if you want one.Again--TTI was DUMB for discontinuing the Royal metal tanks and the Royal Prince metal hand vacuum.
 
Hoover user manuals usually carry another date though, Jamie - to show the new info that has been added or a new reprint date and the original date. This info changed when Hoover put online user manuals for owners to download. 


 


Steve - I think Hoover had just produced dirty fan vacuums as an over supply and just continued to sell off what they had. It would have made more financial sense than to just sell off what they had against the clean fan vacs and this is more evident with the older Hoover brochures with the old heavy Sprint and Compact cylinder vacuums being sold alongside the more modern Sensotronic based bodies and others.
 
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