vacuumalex
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Thread Number: 12723 "New Generation " Rainbow Just
Hmmm...looks kind of "retroish," to me.
Hmmm...looks kind of "retroish," to me.
"New Generation " Rainbow Just Arrived
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This new Rainbow cleaner sounds kinda neat-and the new powernozzle is sure an improvement over the older design-the spinning "whisker" brushes sounds like a good idea-other powernozzles should have this feature.Is the motor in this machine variable speed?Would think rainbow would incorporate a variable speed motor in the new model.Guess I gotta give the Rainbow dist here a call!Would be fun to try and the lights in the bin are a good and novel idea.
unconscious
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OMG!
WOW! It's soo cool! Amazing and beautiful! Is there only one hose? How the Rainjet works?
WOW! It's soo cool! Amazing and beautiful! Is there only one hose? How the Rainjet works?
williamr1248
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New Generation Rainbow arrived
Radek,
The old system used to have one wand for the power nozzle and another set of wands for regular cleanng and yet ANOTHER set of wands for the Squeegee. Also used to have 2 hoses. TOO MUCH STUFF to store.
Now have have ONE long electric hose that works for everything and ONE set of electric wands that are used for the power nozzle,Aquamate and Rainbowjet.
To change from one type of cleaning to washing the floors,all you have to do is slip the bottom wand off and slip the Rainbowjet on. The electric wands take care of the pump in the Rainbowjet. The direct connect wands are great and so much easier to switch from one type of cleaning to use either the Aquamate or the Rainbowjet.
When using the Rainbojet you start with an empty basin. Today I used the Rainbowjet first to wash my kitchen,breakfast room and front hall,then all I had to do was add a little more water for the basin and change the BOTTOM wand from the Rainbowjet to the lower wand and power nozzle. So easy and quick.
It took me just minutes to do 3 rooms of floors.
It takes very little water to use the Rainbowjet and it leaves the floor perfectly dry. The new stainless wnads lock and unlock very easy and they are the same size as the old wands. The trigger that operates the power nozzle also is used to dispense the Rainbowjet cleaning fluid.
Radek,
The old system used to have one wand for the power nozzle and another set of wands for regular cleanng and yet ANOTHER set of wands for the Squeegee. Also used to have 2 hoses. TOO MUCH STUFF to store.
Now have have ONE long electric hose that works for everything and ONE set of electric wands that are used for the power nozzle,Aquamate and Rainbowjet.
To change from one type of cleaning to washing the floors,all you have to do is slip the bottom wand off and slip the Rainbowjet on. The electric wands take care of the pump in the Rainbowjet. The direct connect wands are great and so much easier to switch from one type of cleaning to use either the Aquamate or the Rainbowjet.
When using the Rainbojet you start with an empty basin. Today I used the Rainbowjet first to wash my kitchen,breakfast room and front hall,then all I had to do was add a little more water for the basin and change the BOTTOM wand from the Rainbowjet to the lower wand and power nozzle. So easy and quick.
It took me just minutes to do 3 rooms of floors.
It takes very little water to use the Rainbowjet and it leaves the floor perfectly dry. The new stainless wnads lock and unlock very easy and they are the same size as the old wands. The trigger that operates the power nozzle also is used to dispense the Rainbowjet cleaning fluid.
the "Rainbowjet" replaces the "Aquamate"?
mark40511
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No......If you look at the entire system in the pic above, you can also see the Aquamate.....So it is something different.
William........I'm so jealous of you at this point!!!!!!!!
GRRRRRRRRR
William........I'm so jealous of you at this point!!!!!!!!
GRRRRRRRRR
You were so fortunate to get the things like the "Aquamate","Rainmate"-with the dealer here you have to do the name bit-provide something like 30 names total of 60 to get those two attachments.They are not sold by the dealer here.Only get them with name lists.I do like how the Aquamate has been updated over the simple one Rainbow used to have.And the Rainmate for folks with hard floors.Sounds like a nice attachment.
williamr1248
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New Generatiuon Rainbow arrived
Mark,
Well come on up to Fishers and give it a try. Tania will be coming for a visit real soon.
I am going to try the new designed Aquamate today. The RainbowJet is the new product designed to clean all types of hard surface floors and the Aquamate is for cleaning rugs and carpeting.
I just ordered a second basin to use for the air cleaning. I tired it one night and was surprised to see what it had pulled in from the air overnight.
I still have the Rainbowmate coming. The machine is so new that Ken did not have the new Rainbowmates in yet.
What makes the BIG difference is that now all 3 systems (power nozzle,Aquamate and Rainbowjet) use the same electric hose and wands so change over from one system to another is quick and simple and of course less parts to store.
The warranty is 4 years for whole machine but the Hurricane motor and control board is covered for 8 years. I feel like Kirby,Rainbow has invested a lot of money in getting it right with the electric hose and wands. Time will tell!
Mark,
Well come on up to Fishers and give it a try. Tania will be coming for a visit real soon.
I am going to try the new designed Aquamate today. The RainbowJet is the new product designed to clean all types of hard surface floors and the Aquamate is for cleaning rugs and carpeting.
I just ordered a second basin to use for the air cleaning. I tired it one night and was surprised to see what it had pulled in from the air overnight.
I still have the Rainbowmate coming. The machine is so new that Ken did not have the new Rainbowmates in yet.
What makes the BIG difference is that now all 3 systems (power nozzle,Aquamate and Rainbowjet) use the same electric hose and wands so change over from one system to another is quick and simple and of course less parts to store.
The warranty is 4 years for whole machine but the Hurricane motor and control board is covered for 8 years. I feel like Kirby,Rainbow has invested a lot of money in getting it right with the electric hose and wands. Time will tell!
williamr1248
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New Generatiuon Rainbow arrived
Rex,
The dealer I used is a member of our club. Give Ken a call as he shipped mine from Texas. He gives fast service and fair price.
Ken Bashford
512-451-8993
Rex,
The dealer I used is a member of our club. Give Ken a call as he shipped mine from Texas. He gives fast service and fair price.
Ken Bashford
512-451-8993
williamr1248
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New Generation Rainbow arrived
Getting ready to try the new Aquamate today. Easy set up. You use the same electric hose and wands. All you have to do is click the Aquamate on the end of the wand and the electric wands supply the power and the same hose handle 3-way switch for the power nozzle now operates the Aquamate. It has 3 positions with foot pedal:
(1) carpet clean + water (clean)
(2) water only (rinse)
(3) Extract only
The new carpet cleaning formula is a combination cleaner,reconditioner,deodorizer and protector. Very concentrated so you use very little of the cleaner in the tank.
The new Aquamate has 2 self containded tanks. One for cleaning solution and one for clean water. All self contained. You no longer have to worry about overfilling the water basin because the total in both water tanks on the Aquamate just fill the Rainbow water basin and of course with the new lighted basin you can check your progress.
Getting ready to try the new Aquamate today. Easy set up. You use the same electric hose and wands. All you have to do is click the Aquamate on the end of the wand and the electric wands supply the power and the same hose handle 3-way switch for the power nozzle now operates the Aquamate. It has 3 positions with foot pedal:
(1) carpet clean + water (clean)
(2) water only (rinse)
(3) Extract only
The new carpet cleaning formula is a combination cleaner,reconditioner,deodorizer and protector. Very concentrated so you use very little of the cleaner in the tank.
The new Aquamate has 2 self containded tanks. One for cleaning solution and one for clean water. All self contained. You no longer have to worry about overfilling the water basin because the total in both water tanks on the Aquamate just fill the Rainbow water basin and of course with the new lighted basin you can check your progress.
williamr1248
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New Generatiuon Rainbow arrived
Here is a view of the underside and revolving brush.
One tank full did 14 by 18 family room carpet.
Here is a view of the underside and revolving brush.
One tank full did 14 by 18 family room carpet.
Will bins from an older E2 Rainbow cleaner fit the new one?I have an extra large bin.Like the Aquamate from the pictures-you use it kinda like the powernozzle!Should be far more effective than the older one with the manually pushed brush nozzle.And the electric hose for water pickup-interesting.Always remembered Rainbows and other wet pickup type vacs had two hoses-one-non electric for wet,and the electric one for dry only.Guess I will have to give Ken a call-thanks for the info!May be better to try to get the vacuum from him than the local place.
mark40511
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Rob
Let me ask. With this Aquamate, does it say in the owners guide that you can only use cool water? Is that true? Another thing I wondered about the Aquamate as opposed to, say a hoover steamvac, is the water lift. I know any regular vacuum "to me" always seems to have better suction than a deep cleaner......So I'm *thinking* the extraction power on the Aquamate with the Rainbow's good suction would extract more water.......
It's such a HUGE improvement to have the ONE electric hose for EVERYTHING.....That's what I've always loved about my Kenmore Can was the direct connect......I can't imagine what you must have paid for all of this. Hopefully the direct connect won't have future problems. Usually that's one thing about Rainbow is that it's so reliable.
Let me ask. With this Aquamate, does it say in the owners guide that you can only use cool water? Is that true? Another thing I wondered about the Aquamate as opposed to, say a hoover steamvac, is the water lift. I know any regular vacuum "to me" always seems to have better suction than a deep cleaner......So I'm *thinking* the extraction power on the Aquamate with the Rainbow's good suction would extract more water.......
It's such a HUGE improvement to have the ONE electric hose for EVERYTHING.....That's what I've always loved about my Kenmore Can was the direct connect......I can't imagine what you must have paid for all of this. Hopefully the direct connect won't have future problems. Usually that's one thing about Rainbow is that it's so reliable.
williamr1248
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New Generatiojn Rainbow arirved
Mark,
I tried it out this morning. The carpet was dry very fast because you have the FULL SUCTION and AIRFLOW from the Rainbow itself. I have a Steam vac and this is just me-but I always thought it left so much water in the carpets and was so heavy to push-pull and carry.
When I used my Steam- vac I would finnish by going over the carpet with my SE Rainbow and an empty pan. I would just use the fuller brush and it would still pull so much more moisture out of the carpet.
One thing about this new Aquamate is that the 2 tanks hold just the amount that will fill the regular Rainbow basin with the extract so you you don't have to worry about over filling the basin. The new Solution is very concentrated. I cleaned 14X18 family room with solution left over from one capfull. Yes you do use cool water. No need for hot water because of the formulation of the cleaner.
I will be surprised if I have trouble with the New Rainbow. I have had my SE for 18 years and used it in the garage,screened porch and it has taken a couple of tumbles down the stairs over the years. I think when you make one product (like Kirby) they want to make sure and do it right.
A friend in the vacuum business told me they spent a lot to develope and test the water pick up electric hose and wands but it sure makes changing from one system to another easy.
The nice feature about the Aquamate, just like the new Rainbow and power nozzle is that it is so quiet.
Mark,
I tried it out this morning. The carpet was dry very fast because you have the FULL SUCTION and AIRFLOW from the Rainbow itself. I have a Steam vac and this is just me-but I always thought it left so much water in the carpets and was so heavy to push-pull and carry.
When I used my Steam- vac I would finnish by going over the carpet with my SE Rainbow and an empty pan. I would just use the fuller brush and it would still pull so much more moisture out of the carpet.
One thing about this new Aquamate is that the 2 tanks hold just the amount that will fill the regular Rainbow basin with the extract so you you don't have to worry about over filling the basin. The new Solution is very concentrated. I cleaned 14X18 family room with solution left over from one capfull. Yes you do use cool water. No need for hot water because of the formulation of the cleaner.
I will be surprised if I have trouble with the New Rainbow. I have had my SE for 18 years and used it in the garage,screened porch and it has taken a couple of tumbles down the stairs over the years. I think when you make one product (like Kirby) they want to make sure and do it right.
A friend in the vacuum business told me they spent a lot to develope and test the water pick up electric hose and wands but it sure makes changing from one system to another easy.
The nice feature about the Aquamate, just like the new Rainbow and power nozzle is that it is so quiet.
luxlife
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That machine IS impressive!
Does Rainbow only sell the machine with all accessories or will they let a buyer purchase the machine "a la carte", meaning you can pick and choose your accessories? I'd like to get everything for dry vacuuming but I don't care for the wet accessories.
Does Rainbow only sell the machine with all accessories or will they let a buyer purchase the machine "a la carte", meaning you can pick and choose your accessories? I'd like to get everything for dry vacuuming but I don't care for the wet accessories.
williamr1248
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New Generation Rainbow arrived
John,
I do not know the answer to your question. Give Ken a call. He is in Austin Texas. I am sure he can help you out and answer any questions.
Number 512-451-8993.
John,
I do not know the answer to your question. Give Ken a call. He is in Austin Texas. I am sure he can help you out and answer any questions.
Number 512-451-8993.
kirbylux77
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Looks nice, but I won't be buying one....
It's great that Rainbow made some much-needed upgrades to the vacuum, such as the direct-connect wands & lighted water basin. But, I don't like the design of the new dolly, don't like the design of the new Rainbow logo, & that powerhead is just HORRIBLE!! The surface area it would cover is too small, considering how much the vac costs to buy. Plus, the brushroll looks wimpy & like it wouldn't clean the carpet deeply, & the edge groomers look like they will be problematic. They should have just kept the brush stiffeners on the brushroll & added stationary brushes on the side like Orecks have. Also, I hear no mention at all whether the new powerhead has a cog or V-belt or not. Considering that Rainbows sell for a little over $2,400 CDN, this is unacceptable & these should be standard features.
If this is all Rainbow's designers are capable of, they should have just gone to Wessell Werk & sourced a powerhead from them. Looks like if I buy a Rainbow now, it will be a E2 Blue Platinum model.
Rob
It's great that Rainbow made some much-needed upgrades to the vacuum, such as the direct-connect wands & lighted water basin. But, I don't like the design of the new dolly, don't like the design of the new Rainbow logo, & that powerhead is just HORRIBLE!! The surface area it would cover is too small, considering how much the vac costs to buy. Plus, the brushroll looks wimpy & like it wouldn't clean the carpet deeply, & the edge groomers look like they will be problematic. They should have just kept the brush stiffeners on the brushroll & added stationary brushes on the side like Orecks have. Also, I hear no mention at all whether the new powerhead has a cog or V-belt or not. Considering that Rainbows sell for a little over $2,400 CDN, this is unacceptable & these should be standard features.
If this is all Rainbow's designers are capable of, they should have just gone to Wessell Werk & sourced a powerhead from them. Looks like if I buy a Rainbow now, it will be a E2 Blue Platinum model.
Rob
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new rainbow
id buy one its better then most vacuums
id buy one its better then most vacuums
airwaylady
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"Rainbow Frenzy"
WOW Rob!
You have created quite a stir with this New Rainbow!
Happy you were able so acquire one for yourself and Happy Vacuuming to you!
Tania
WOW Rob!
You have created quite a stir with this New Rainbow!
Happy you were able so acquire one for yourself and Happy Vacuuming to you!
Tania
williamr1248
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New Generation Rainbow arrived
Tania,
I am saving the sofa and chairs for you to give it a try! I really like the machine. So quiet and smooth. You should see my plush carpets. It really pulled the nap up. I want you to try that new Rainbowjet on the kitchen floor. Bam and it's done! Looking forward to your vist. Very powerful air flow and suction.
They made so many nice improvements.
Rob
Tania,
I am saving the sofa and chairs for you to give it a try! I really like the machine. So quiet and smooth. You should see my plush carpets. It really pulled the nap up. I want you to try that new Rainbowjet on the kitchen floor. Bam and it's done! Looking forward to your vist. Very powerful air flow and suction.
They made so many nice improvements.
Rob
crevicetool
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Rob,
Thanks so much for introducing the new Rainbow to us. This has been a most interesting thread for sure. You have done a wonderful job showing to us.
Congratulations on the machine. It's just great!
Rick
Thanks so much for introducing the new Rainbow to us. This has been a most interesting thread for sure. You have done a wonderful job showing to us.
Congratulations on the machine. It's just great!
Rick
hoovercelebrity
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I totally agree with everyone's interest in this new cleaner! I am pea-green with envy that you got this cleaner! You're probably one of the FIRST people in the COUNTRY to have this new Rainbow, it's so new! Congratulations!
You'll definitely have to bring it to the convention with you this year so we can all play with it! **nudge, nudge**
Fred
You'll definitely have to bring it to the convention with you this year so we can all play with it! **nudge, nudge**
Fred
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I really like the look and all the improved features.... thank you for sharing and congratulations on getting such a new and fun vacuum. That not being able to set the machine on dolly without the water basin always drove me crazy.
Do you have a picture of the switch? That's always my favorite part of a vacuum. How is the cord storage improved... they didn't give it a retractable cord finally, did they?
I like the edge cleaners and head light and swivel neck of the new power nozzle, but for some reason, at least to me, the new power nozzle just looks "cheaper" than the old one.
Do you have a picture of the switch? That's always my favorite part of a vacuum. How is the cord storage improved... they didn't give it a retractable cord finally, did they?
I like the edge cleaners and head light and swivel neck of the new power nozzle, but for some reason, at least to me, the new power nozzle just looks "cheaper" than the old one.
mark40511
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You can set the machine on the dolly without the basin.....It locks in place. At least it does in my e2
Yesterday when I got home from work after reading this thread----went ahead and called my local Rainbow dealer to see if he got the new Rainbows in stock-He Has!just got them!So I was the first customer in town to buy one!And yes I really like it!Contrary to what some say about the powernozzle-I think its a BIG improvement over the one that came with my older E2.The new Rainbow is termed "E2B"E2 Black.I like the new roller base-its got bumpers on the edges-when you pull a full Rainbow along-it can bang pretty hard into walls or furniture.And I tried the machine breifly--the new powernozzle dug up MORE dirt than the older one ever could.I think the "whisker" brushes are very clever-makes the nozzle clean better against walls-and on either side.Hell,I might try to use this nozzle on my other vacs,too.and like that it has a headlight.I think Rainbow has a winner here--wonder if Kirby will follow in Rainbows footsteps?and like the lighted bin-so cool to watch while vacuuming with the machine-and you see the dirt build up!Since I was a first customer-gave me a special price.but the Rainmate and Aquamate they won't sell me-have to play the "name game" for those items.Maybe I should order those items from Ken.they both would be helpful.and like how this new Rainbow is quieter than the older one.This thread inspired me to get it.Since I got it after coming back from Mid shift-didn't get much time to play around with it.But do like it-may end up using this machine along with my Sebo,Neile,Royal ,canisters.The bins for this and the older E2 look alike-should be interchangeable.Will have to try it.The saleslady was so excited to sell me the vacuum-was her first one of this model-she took my picture and will post it on their sales board.Will go over to see.I was posed with the machine and it going.suggested to her to take the picture with the machine running and bin lights on.I did feel good for her.And she was going to look thru the trade in pile for vacuums for my collection.
I think..
It would make sense to have a power nozzle like that. First, you only really need something for surface dirt close to walls, because that area doesn't get worn. The smaller brushroll area would really concentrate that powerful suction, so I bet it is a heck of a deep cleaner.
It would make sense to have a power nozzle like that. First, you only really need something for surface dirt close to walls, because that area doesn't get worn. The smaller brushroll area would really concentrate that powerful suction, so I bet it is a heck of a deep cleaner.
williamr1248
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New Generation Rainbow just arrived
Bobby,
Here is a shot of the switch,new cord wrap and rear of dolly. You can now just loop the cord and hung it if you don't want to wrap the cord every time you use the machine several times a week as I do with a dog shedding hair.
The pictures don't do the power nozzle justice. Now the machine does not have a shine,slick plastic look.
You will be shocked when you run that new power nozzle. It cleanes the entire front surface,not just where you see the brushes and it, like the machine is quiet.
Bobby,
Here is a shot of the switch,new cord wrap and rear of dolly. You can now just loop the cord and hung it if you don't want to wrap the cord every time you use the machine several times a week as I do with a dog shedding hair.
The pictures don't do the power nozzle justice. Now the machine does not have a shine,slick plastic look.
You will be shocked when you run that new power nozzle. It cleanes the entire front surface,not just where you see the brushes and it, like the machine is quiet.
mark40511
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Aside from the changes........Is this still the same motor and air lift as the 2 speed model?
Tolivac......They wouldn't sell you the Aquamate??????? That's odd. I mean they are in the business to sell their product. LOL
Tolivac......They wouldn't sell you the Aquamate??????? That's odd. I mean they are in the business to sell their product. LOL
williamr1248
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New generation Rainbow has arrived
Lane,
You got it right. That was what I was trying to explain. The brushes do come in from the sides but does it ever have high air flow and suction on the carpet. I think the large diameter of the agaitatior and small opening also contributes.
I was just shocked when I started to use it on my thick plush carpeting. When you pull it back to you it leaves the carpet nap all standing up with no streaks or center missed area including the area on the ends where the revolving brushes are located. It also has a center DIRECT dirt and air path like an old Hoover.
The test for me was around the table and chair legs in the breakfast room on the braided rug. It snatched up dog hair before you even get to it.
I do like the pause feature on the switch. It works good when you come to the end of lightweight rug. You can release the switch which turns the brush off and not ruin the rug edge. I also like the fact that now you can LOCK the power nozzle in ON mode when doing a large area.
I gave it the test and let it run on the same spot for several minutes and NO damage to the rug which is a lot more than I can say about some of my other new vacuums. Take a good look at the groves and design of the channels on the bottom of the rug plate.
Now let's get that new Kirby on the market!
Lane,
You got it right. That was what I was trying to explain. The brushes do come in from the sides but does it ever have high air flow and suction on the carpet. I think the large diameter of the agaitatior and small opening also contributes.
I was just shocked when I started to use it on my thick plush carpeting. When you pull it back to you it leaves the carpet nap all standing up with no streaks or center missed area including the area on the ends where the revolving brushes are located. It also has a center DIRECT dirt and air path like an old Hoover.
The test for me was around the table and chair legs in the breakfast room on the braided rug. It snatched up dog hair before you even get to it.
I do like the pause feature on the switch. It works good when you come to the end of lightweight rug. You can release the switch which turns the brush off and not ruin the rug edge. I also like the fact that now you can LOCK the power nozzle in ON mode when doing a large area.
I gave it the test and let it run on the same spot for several minutes and NO damage to the rug which is a lot more than I can say about some of my other new vacuums. Take a good look at the groves and design of the channels on the bottom of the rug plate.
Now let's get that new Kirby on the market!
hoovercelebrity
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How many feet-long is that hose, Rob? Do they offer a longer hose anymore? I know they used to have maybe an 8' hose and also a 12' hose available for purchase. I also see that it no longer comes with a suction-only hose, but do they still make one available for those who may want one?
Fred
Fred
