New copycat Dyson cordless

[adamthemieleman]

Hello all, it's that time again, the new Argos catalogue is out. As usual I had a nosey at the appliances, nothing really jumped out, apart from these. Vax and Hoover both have new cordless vacs. Very Dyson esq, I doubt they're multi cyclonic and that they're any good.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well, its the price that is going to attract many to these Dyson-esque vacs. Hoover TTI in Australia already have the Ultra Lithium hand held vac out.

 

[dysonman1]

"Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery". Without a digital motor, the exhaust air returning to the room, near the hand and arm, must be quite warm.

 

[sebo_fan]

I'd have neither. At least when cleaning above the floor line with a hose above my head my ears won't get threatened with a motor that can damage my hearing.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Fact is, people who want the "look" but don't want to pay the price will go for one of these, as will potentially anyone who was disappointed with their Dyson hand-held. As Sebo fan suggests, the noise is a factor. Dyson never seem troubled about noise.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Imitation is nothing new.

There are imitations,   duplicates, even fakes.


  Most of uscan spot a fake from miles away.


 


  Yrs ago,  how many Hoovers were copied?  Eurekas?  Lux?  Plenty.


 I never owned a Dyson, so, I cannot speak much about them.  I'd certainly not bash.


  I've had to run other makes, over the years... some, of course better than others.


  Never had a Shark.  I know some,  evenworked w/ some.  To me,  they belonged in the ocean.


 


  I'm NOT bashing  Shark vacs. just to be clear.


 

 

[madaboutsebo]

I got to try the new Dyson V8 at John Lewis Department Store the other week and they seem to have listened to its customers from previous versions! The motor sounds quieter and smoother in operation. No high pitch noise! They do seem to have started to make some of its products quieter like the Air Multiplier Fans latest generation ones are apparently quieter!

 

[tomvacuum10]

My V8

My V8 is very quiet compared to the V6, even on max mode. I had my friends V6 total clean and was surprised at the differences of the two. Also, in the new catalogue they show the new Numatic Compact range.

 

[madaboutsebo]

The V8 is very quiet it surprised me didn't expect it to be. I also noticed the power in the motorised head as I was using it which I wasn't expecting! Was impressed by the new overall design and new bin emptying mechanism too on the V8. I have said this before as a little prediction of my own I do believe as Dyson pushes their boundaries of battery technology and run time and performance of it cordless vacuum range they will replace Dyson's corded range in the future as their main lineup. The whole Dyson range will be cordless I think in years to come maybe sooner than we think!

I also see the Hoover have that similar cordless vacuum to this VAX in Argos as Sebo_fan posted above. The new micro Henry I see is more than the standard model!

Be interesting to see how these VAX (and Hoover) cordless versions do especially as price point will be the biggest difference for buyers!

 

[sebo_fan]

Bosch have also released new editions of their Athlet cordless uprights as well as their Move-On standard non-Lithium cordless 2 in 1 uprights. Im sure in time they'll probably do something like Dyson's hand held but in a different variation.

 

[numatic_boy]

Ive seen this Vax in an Argos display.I may get one depending on the reviews.I think its going to be very loud,but then so is its Dyson counterpart.I have used a V6 before so I have high standards.

 

[blakaeg]

Those cordless machines look quite good. I'm one of those is not bothered by the lack of 'digital motor' I got the Dyson DC16 back in Dec 2006 and didn't have a digital motor and till this day do not notice the little 'heat' it generates.

I purchased a V6 Absolute 2 months ago, whilst I love its powerful performance, it hasn't proven durable for me. The top of the wand came away and I needed a new one and now there is a tiny crack in the back of the handle near the charge port. I guess its cracked from my firm grip on the handle - The new V8 doesn't have this rear handle cover that is very thin. I see a review on Amazon pointing out to a crack and breakage in the same area on a V6 machine. I hate the creaking sounds from the machine and have written to Dyson to give them my feedback and I dislike the feel that something is going to break. Its designed so that the wand can be lifted upwards to dust up high, I have a concern the top of my wand is going to come away again. I saw on Dysons Faceook page that someone else had the same issue a few days ago.

I hope Vax and Hoover are honest with their runtime claims, as I'm a little disappointed by the 14 mins run time of the V6 Absolute with the motorised head attached. It said 16 mins in smaller print when I purchased it and I asked Dyson and was told 16 minutes, but in the manual it says 14 mins and then I see on their UK website it changed to 14 mins. Have to be super quick to clean the apartment before the battery runs out! A lot of mentioning 20 minutes run time, but in reality if using as a floor cleaner, it no where near. V8 is better at 25 mins - I like how Dyson are crafty and say 'upto 40 mins runtime'. Very clever of them.

The V6 Absolute that I have is quieter than the standard V6 machine, I never knew this until I tried out the two in Selfridges, a V6 Absolute and V6 Animal. Dyson claim (Dyson V6 Motorhead in Singapore) is 30% quieter than DC62 which the DC62 is a standard V6 in the UK. Perhaps the HEPA filter helps to muffle out sound. Sound for me is not the issue, just the very powerful brushbar on the V6 Absolute and having neighbours below in the flat downstairs who don't like any noise, the stiff brushes really do dig deep into the pile to clean effectively.

V8 looks impressive but is very expensive at the moment.

I'd like to try out one of those Vax machines. I can also imagine anyone who has experienced issues with Dyson cordless machines going for one of these.

Bosch Athlet have come a long day. They look excellent. What appeals to me about Dyson, Vax and Hoover models is the ability to use a handheld, very important for someone living in a flat and needing to take the machine down to the car.

 

[vintagerepairer]

I happened to be in a Currys store about three years ago - I must have gone to buy something as I am not one to browse for the sake of. Anyway that said, I did take a look around the store seeing how I was there, and taking in all the new things for sale.

As I was walking down the vacuum cleaner aisle I heard a lady ask a Currys salesperson what the different sized upright cleaners were in aid of, and said saleswoman took one down to show her. The whole thing made a loud "CRACK" as the handle went back, and I heard the lady say "£300 for a vac that makes that noise!". I did stifle a chuckle. It does seem that it's not just the lack of durability that some people are alarmed by, but also the perceived lack of durability too.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Sorry I should have said these were Dyson uprights.

 

[henrydreyfuss]

@blakaeg

How did the wand "come away?" I've put all my Dyson cordless vacuums through heavy use (I've owned every generation, and sold and upgraded to each new version). I've never had any issue with the wands cracking at either end on any of my machines. Now, the build quality in certain areas is surprising light, (for instance, the big brushbar on the motorhead version is nearly weightless when you remove it), but I've never had any issues with wands or any parts of my cordless Dysons cracking. If you had something defective, Dyson would take care of it no problem under the 2 year warranty.

 

[henrydreyfuss]

The important part that both of these new cordless machines are avoiding explaining in their marketing, is the bagless filtration system. Neither mention the filtration setup. Not a good sign, unless they're fearing patent-related lawsuits. I'd hope they're at least dual-cyclonic, otherwise they'll be high-maintenance. The 15 cyclones on the Dyson V6 do a remarkable job of keeping the filters spotless.

 

[adamthemieleman]

Not impressed

Well look what I had waiting for me in the warehouse to unbox.

It looks cheap and feels cheap, there's no doubt about it. It looks like a kids toy. Suction isn't too bad at the cleaner end. Floor cleaning is a different matter. The suction is poor at the floorhead, the brush itself is very thin, with sparse and relatively soft bristles. Needless to say it didn't pick up much when tried out.

To confirm, it has a dual cyclone setup. The bin removes, as does the fine mesh shroud, and then the larger shroud. It didn't look like the cyclone was removable. The motor is under the silver disc. The filter is located at the back above the handle. Two buttons unlock it, it slides out, with a cone material filter. It is washable.
The dock is a waste of time, the hook looks very fragile, the underneath of the handle sits on to it. Tools don't actually clip snugly, it's just a bracket. Charging is manual too, one has to remember to plug it in.

Not great, especially at £269, when even the Dyson v6 animal is only £10 more.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Sadly, they're all a bunch of

knockoffs. Imitation CAN be a great form of a compliment, this , we know.
But, then, there's just plain old 'fake'.
As I said, I can spot a fake from miles away. I'm sure most can.
My cousin's son recently got married. His 'bride' registered for a Shark...... well, she got a Reed and Barton silver bowl from me. I'd die before I'd purchase one.
This Dyson look alike...well... they're just slapping that Hoover logo on anything. We know this.

 

[sebo_fan]

The irony is that the Hoover we have in the UK is NOT under TTI control but from Candy of Italy. Hoover Australia is part of TTI.