New Aerus Upright Vacuum

[sleepdoc]

Couldn't take it anymore

The curiosity surrounding all this was too much for me. I bought one today. I'll use it later in my bedroom and let you know what I think. I know it's a really great machine. It has a LOT more suction than the Epics I used to have, so that fixes the Lux's only real weakness. More to come. Bernie the Electrolux dealer just dropped it off, and it hasn't left the spot where he set it. Here's its first photo op.

BTW, this was my first opportunity to show Bernie my collection. I wish I had planned it earlier so John could have been here for it, but I needed to accommodate Bernie's schedule since it's a long drive for him. He enjoyed himself and used a lot of my machines.

 

[cleaningbuff]

looking for a lux dealer

Sleepdoc::

Could you e-mail me, and give me Bernie the lux representatives contact info. I have tried to locate one each time we have been in St. Louis but no luck. I have a Lux 4000 with the onboard tools but it is top heavy, the suction is great though. I also have a discovery,,, first model, suction is kinda weak on it. I clean houses and I love these machines as they are very easy to maneuver and clean under beds and such.

I live in Quincy IL and our local office closed some time ago.

Thanks for your help.
Robert Clow

 

[sleepdoc]

Bernie

His business # is 314-537-4075. I'm sure he will be happy to hear from you.

 

[kirbyloverdan]

OMG Sleep Doc lol

Wow you seem to be like me , everytime I see a Vacuum I like I must purchase it or I get very excited until I get what I want . You will love that machine it is really an excellent upright and I find myself pulling that one out to use the most out of all of my 200+ Vacuum cleaners .Enjoy using it as I am sure you will be quite pleased with it .
Danny

 

[williamr1248]

New Aerus Upright

Patrick,
Very nice looking machine. Let us know what it's noise level is after you had a chance to use the machine. I would also like to know if the handle has that "heavy" feeling like so many of the other new uprights.
I like the clean lines of the machine.
Rob

 

[sleepdoc]

It feels just like the older ones.

The new Guardian is just like using a Discovery or Epic except it pulls almost 400 air watts instead of 200. It's no louder. The new brush roll (that's been around a few years now) is great. It's a very good machine. I'm glad they kept this same design and fixed the suction deficit. The new Luxes are bright white, pretty machine.

 

[sleepdoc]

GM1982

Original poster: sorry to threadjack in a way.

If you're looking at the Felix vs the X4 or X5, then the comparable Miele is the S168 Universal Upright with a power nozzle vs the S7 full size uprights. Check those out if you're thinking about a smaller vacuum. The only machine that you've brought up that I don't have yet is the Felix. I've used one just once, and it was very good, just like I'd expect any Sebo to be. The Miele Universal is terrific, but the bags are small.

 

[bimmer740]

I haven't used the newest Guardian upright, but the last Electrolux upright I owned was a brand new Aerus Lux 3000. This machine had the new and much improved brush roll, which can be used in any Lux upright machine, and it also had a more powerful motor. Ive had the Discovery II, an Epic 3500, and the last was the 3000. While the Discovery upright design has been around for probably 25 years, they still have yet to be beat. The ability to use the sidekick is wonderful, and while they can tip over they dont seem to tip as easily as other machines. One of the nicest features of using tools with this machine is that you dont have to fight some awful stretch hose that is constantly pulling backwards, and to top it off it has the traditional Electrolux pistol grip handle that has been around for the past 60+ years. Ive seem the ProLux machines used in a commercial setting as the company I worked for had them in every store. I can tell you that they can stand up to a lot of abuse and still keep going. While the Lux may not have the same suction power as the Miele, it has stood the true test of time. These machines hold up well and give years of dependable service. Electrolux/Aerus is not exactly big on changing thier model line around often, but when it comes to their upright, it just doesnt make sense to redesign something that already has worked so well, just like how Kirby doesnt put out a completely new machine every 5 years. If its not broken, dont fix it.

 

[sleepdoc]

Electrolux Aerus upright design

I've been saying for a long time that I recommended Electrolux Epic uprights to people looking for a versatile vacuum. Again, it needed more suction, but eve as it was, it was a very good cleaner. As the bag filled, the power dropped noticeably, but even then it cleaned well. That problem is fixed now.

The reason I like the Electrolux upright design is that it's great with tools. Tools-on-board machines are undermined in the usefulness by the collapsible hoses, as Bimmer740 pointed out. They're terrible except for putting the machine at the bottom of a staircase and cleaning as far up the stairs as the hose will reach. Will the Aerus Lux, you've always gotten a full set of TOL hose and attachments, including the Sidekick, so you can use the upright as a canister on hard floors just by putting the matching floor attachment on the wands (full length wands) and vauuming normally. (I've never been much for just turning off brush rolls on power nozzles or uprights and cleaning just with air and no brush bristles touching the floor.)

Also, the Lux machines were in the filtration business before others even considered high filtration as an important performance metric. The cheaper Lux bags filtered to one micron. So did the after filters. The IOTA bags were better than that when they made them (and I'm still upset they stopped), but the newest bags supposedly filter as well as the IOTA bags did. The base machines have micron after filters, and the Guardians have sealed HEPA filters.

I worry some that the Aerus Lux company might not make it, but, if they don't, it won't be because their upright isn't a fantastic cleaner. My single piece of advice for Lux is to lengthen the plastic wands and improve on the quality of the plastic wands and power nozzle necks on the canisters. The upright uses the classic wands and tools, so it's not an issue with this machine.

I recommend the Guardian upright. It's a solid, effective iteration of a very effective design with effective improvements over its predecessors.

 

[bimmer740]

@GM1982
I must have read over your post about having a cleaning service use your machine. We have had several different housekeepers over the past 15+ years and they have all preferred to use an Electrolux. I think because they are pretty much "idiot proof". The power nozzle shuts off if it gets jammed, the belt never needs to be changed nor will it break or burn up. If somehow the suction motor should over heat, it will also shut off. Although I dont know if the new uprights shut off when the bag is full like the canister machines, they do have a very visable bag indicator light. When I traded my Electrolux tanks in for a Miele Red Velvet and BlueMoon years ago, I was extremely happy with my purchase, my housekeeper however was less than thrilled to say the least. Like I said above, the Lux can stand up to abuse and I know that some of our housekeepers havent exactly been very gentle with the vacuum they use. Also, some of the European machines just have too many electronic components and various choices in cleaning levels that cleaning person who comes in to clean and move on to the next house just cant be bothered with.

Patrick, I cant wait to hear how you like the your new Guardian upright, congratulations on another beautiful machine!

 

[GM1982]

Very good point about the housekeepers....that's one thing I question is whether these fancier Miele and Sebo models are simple to operate. The Aerus is idiot proof, one button and go.

 

[sleepdoc]

Ease of use

The Miele, Sebo, and Lux in all their varieties are easy to use. The Sebo might be the easiest, really. Pull out the hose grip and a medium-length wand comes with it, use the hose for whatever quick thing you need, then put it right back in and you're done. The new Miele upright is the same, but the hose doesn't come out quite as easily, nor does it just slide into place on the machine as easily as the Sebo. But, all of your finalists are user-friendly. You can't lose on any of them. During all your searching, did you ever look at a tandem air Simplicity or Riccar Synergy and Synchrony for Simplicity, Radiance and Brilliance for Riccar, all of which have different trim levels with their own model number designation)? I think they round out what I consider the contemporary TOL uprights, Kirby notwithstanding.

 

[GM1982]

Riccar...nobody sells them in my area, at least the newest models. 27 miles away is the nearest dealer with a Radiance, the one at riccar.com! This weekend I think where going to go with one of the more popular brands, instead of these underground brands. Who knows if you'll be able to find parts, bags and service.

 

[luxflairguy]

Let me ask an unasked question

All throught this thread you talk about how the new vacuum is going to be mainly used by a housekeeper. Have you asked the housekeeper for his/her idea on the subject of the new vacuum? Is it simple to use? Or is it going to have a "learning curve'? I ask this because I gave my best friends in Palm Desert a wonderful Royal with the rear 5 position adjustment. The cleaning lady just jams it all the way down and leaves it there. They are going through belts at an alarming rate and fail to understand about the rite height. It's the same with most housekeepers who are unfamiliar with Kirby's.
I cleaned homes for 25 years and while I'm totally a central vac guy, I also always took my own vacuum to non-central homes so I could control the quality, performance and maintenance of the vacuum so I knew I was getting the job done right!
My 2 cents!

 

[GM1982]

How ironic my cleaning lady was actually here today! I asked her and she uses a kenmore canister of her own, but lots of her clients she uses they're machine instead of her own, and said she prefers the Kenmore or the Miele Canister the most. Also, a beam central vac, oreck or Hoover upright with attchments. She said she has used an electrolux but doesn't see the Aerus or the electrolux that often in homes. A Windsor commerical vac she likes when she cleans an office building.

 

[sleepdoc]

Windsor

It's a sebo, babe. U can't go wrong. Get an X5.

 

[jayelux]

Echo thoughts on the Aerus uprights

I had one of the Lux uprights with onboard tools. It also had a separate electric hose which was the direct-connect type for the electrical connection for the Sidekick. This was the best of both worlds for me. I could quickly pull out the wand to reach a cobweb then continue vacuuming. When I was ready to do the kitchen floor, I pulled out the other hose and was able to do a thorough job without fighting against a stretch hose (my single biggest complaint about using a Dyson DC25 is fighting against the great suction just to use the attachments. A vacuum shouldn't cause EXTRA work because it is powerful! Love the Dyson for reasons OTHER than the stretch hose--such as terrific power and cool design elements.)
Anyway, I loved the Lux upright. It wasn't the most powerful of the bunch, but it was easy to use--which made up for its lack of power. They discontinued the model I had and regressed in the design to the earlier upright design without the onboard hose. The Aerus website still shows the old motor in the upright. Glad to hear they've improved it.
I also appreciate the fact that Elux bags are still so easy to change.

 

[sireluxomatic]

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Now, I'm 99.9% an Electrolux canister man, but recently got a Discovery III, which I quite like. I like the slim, trim design, ease of use, easy bag change, and it has quite enough power to do a satisfactory job. The only drawback is that its a pain to carry. I believe subsequent models added a carrying handle. To be honest, on board tools and/or hoses are not a concern with me (I don't use uprights for non-carpet tasks). That might be alright if you're giving the coffee table a quick swipe while doing the floor, but for any sustained dusting, it's not a problem to connect a hose and attachments. </span>


 


<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Anyway, good luck in whatever vacuum you choose.</span>

 

[cleaningbuff]

lux 4000

Here is a pic of my lux 4000

 

[GM1982]

Thanks all for the great suggestions. Right now I think we might go with a Miele Canister with power head or the Aerus Upright with hose. The Miele upright body is proabably going to be too large to fit under some beds/furniture, and the Sebo Felix which was almost the choice doesn't have a long enough wand feature to get underneath some low living room couches on hardwood floor. The Miele canister or the Aerus with a hose and the two pipes connected to a floor brush will do the trick.

 

[sleepdoc]

Great!

My favorite Miele canister these days is called Earth. You'll have to pick a powerhead out of three current electric models and one turbine model based on your carpet/rug thickness.

Or the Lux comes with everything standard except a floor tool to hook up to the wands. You'd have to buy that extra.

You'll love either of those machines, and they'll take great care of your carpets, furniture, and lungs for a LONG time. Please let us know which machine you choose, maybe even put up photos. This has been a really fun thread for me.

patrick

 

[kirbyloverdan]

Aerus/Miele

Either of those two are excellent choices. If you do get an Aerus upright and need the bare floor tool just ask the sales person to throw it in with the purchase. I always ask for extra`s in fact when I purchased my Aerus Lux Guardian upright I asked my sales lady to throw in a bare floor tool , box of bags plus an Aerus Fresh ERA light weight upright and bags for both machines . She did and I also purchased the Aerus Guardian canister the last of the in my opinion great canisters Aerus built . She again threw in a Fresh ERA upright and a box of bags and an extra Hepa filter plus a non hepa filter. I feel it always pays to ask for something extra as I would always throw in extra`s when I owned my vacuum shop . Good luck on your decision.

 

[GM1982]

Well, here is the weapon of choice. We went with this one because it seemed to be the most versatile for where it has to clean and get underneath. 50% of the house is hard wood too. The Aerus Upright would have worked just as well, but liked the way the this one pulled the nap of the carpet and was also $400 less. You don't need to connect a hose with the Miele. They also threw in hepa and bags. Not bad I guess. Sebo had no long enough wand/hose to get underneath furniture.

 

[sleepdoc]

Wonderful!

Wow, if I'd realized your house had so wood I'd never have recommended an upright. You'll love your Miele! Congratulations!

Does this mean you're leaving us?

 

[GM1982]

I may check back, but you all were very helpul in giving user feedback on these types of vacuums I was asking about. So far happy with the purchase of the Miele...the sales experience was great. Not much for Aerus, wasn't crazy how they were being sold. Negotiating a price with add on features with in store salesperson was tedious, at least the place near me was like that.

 

[Anhedonius]

If you (or anyone else) decide to try a Felix...

Costco has just started carrying a Felix Onyx Premium 1 (12" power nozzle) online (see the link below.) The price is the same as the current official price ($599, down from $799 a couple of months ago), but Costco throws in eight bags (an odd number, since Sebo's Web site only lists a ten-bag box), the dusting brush/9' extension hose/20" extension wand attachment kit ($79 at Sebo's Web site or bundled with the vacuum and a filter box for $689), and the handheld turbo brush ($49.49) along with it. Same five-year parts and labor warranty from Sebo, but since it's from Costco (and not a TV, camera, computer, or a couple of other things), you can return it at any time - even after the five years are up. (Costco's also a good way to take advantage of Miele pricing discrepancies between Canada and the U.S., if you have a Canadian address to ship it to or a friendly Canadian to pick it up for you and forward it, since Miele Canada's warranty is void in the U.S.)


http://www.costco.com/Browse/Produc..._Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav=