Never saw a DS80 like this before.

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The poor things...

They're all having identity crisis ...they don't know who they are anymore..lol better check their green cards
 
wouldn't the green card,

Only apply to.the DS80? 
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Rose-wood cards, Brown cards, red cards, blue cards, Orange cards, the list goes on!
 
Yes...that's what I meant..hehehe it got lost in translation..at least try & get them back to original..not mosaic like I see some cars going by with different colour parts like a bonnet, boot, & doors.. LoL
 
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When an outgoing Kirby model has its parts changed entirely like this, where every part from the then-current new model is installed to make the old model look identical to the newest model, would that be considered fraud? Who would be doing it? A vacuum store or a salesman's office trying to move old inventory out and pass it off as the newest model? I've encountered a few like this for various models. I just classify them as "clones" but I always wondered why it was done. It's a ton of work to do, and deliberate, so it isn't just parts being replaced as they break. I can't imagine the everyday vacuum owner ever noticing that their "new" Kirby is actually the past model with new model parts on it, since they usually all look identical after all.
 
When an outgoing Kirby model has its parts changed entirely like this, where every part from the then-current new model is installed to make the old model look identical to the newest model, would that be considered fraud? Who would be doing it? A vacuum store or a salesman's office trying to move old inventory out and pass it off as the newest model? I've encountered a few like this for various models. I just classify them as "clones" but I always wondered why it was done. It's a ton of work to do, and deliberate, so it isn't just parts being replaced as they break. I can't imagine the everyday vacuum owner ever noticing that their "new" Kirby is actually the past model with new model parts on it, since they usually all look identical after all.
Correct, and the original serial number plate is (often) either removed or scratched over, so for future reference, make sure you have the model and serial numbers of your cleaner as written by the original dealer handy.

~Ben
 
Correct, and the original serial number plate is (often) either removed or scratched over, so for future reference, make sure you have the model and serial numbers of your cleaner as written by the original dealer handy.

~Ben
Good to know. I just got a 517 that was converted into a DS80 and they actually went through the trouble to take apart the entire power switch and change that to a DS80 green switch, wheels, handle, nozzle, the works. Not by the seller - whoever owned it before the person I bought it from. It's been sitting in a basement likely 30, 40, 50 years. But it sure fooled me. It had all the correct attachments in the kit for the DS80, the manuals, I checked the photos carefully for things that didnt match and seen everything looked right.

But when I seen the OG 517 tag on the bottom I was like ????? That's when I had the thought that when people did that, their intention had to have been fraud, because that level of time and effort it took to do that and totally tear it down to rebuild it as a fake had to have taken a couple hours at least.
 
Good to know. I just got a 517 that was converted into a DS80 and they actually went through the trouble to take apart the entire power switch and change that to a DS80 green switch, wheels, handle, nozzle, the works. Not by the seller - whoever owned it before the person I bought it from. It's been sitting in a basement likely 30, 40, 50 years. But it sure fooled me. It had all the correct attachments in the kit for the DS80, the manuals, I checked the photos carefully for things that didnt match and seen everything looked right.

But when I seen the OG 517 tag on the bottom I was like ????? That's when I had the thought that when people did that, their intention had to have been fraud, because that level of time and effort it took to do that and totally tear it down to rebuild it as a fake had to have taken a couple hours at least.
Some people did that back then as they wanted to have the advantages of the two-speed motor for hose use.

However, for models 516 to 562 a different (and thinner) O-ring (part no. 122056A) was used for the hose because of the different hose motor coupling design (metal). Beginning with the Sanitronic VII, the plastic hose/Emtor coupling was used that was permanently mounted to the hose, and thus a different and slightly thicker fan case gasket (presently 122068A) was used when attached to the front of the motor. Therefore, you need to buy not only the different hose (for models Dual Sanitronic 50, 80 or Classic 1-CR) but also the associated O-ring for it (122068A).

~Ben
 
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When an outgoing Kirby model has its parts changed entirely like this, where every part from the then-current new model is installed to make the old model look identical to the newest model, would that be considered fraud? Who would be doing it? A vacuum store or a salesman's office trying to move old inventory out and pass it off as the newest model? I've encountered a few like this for various models. I just classify them as "clones" but I always wondered why it was done. It's a ton of work to do, and deliberate, so it isn't just parts being replaced as they break. I can't imagine the everyday vacuum owner ever noticing that their "new" Kirby is actually the past model with new model parts on it, since they usually all look identical after all.
So I am in the process of trying to acquire the parts to convert my Avalir 2 to Avalir Platinum spec but using the insulated fill tube sold on the European models. I want a quiet Kirby. When I die and someone else gets that Kirby are they going to think I was doing something by way of fraud?
 
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I have too many Frankenvacs to do that. A lot of my working vacuums are modified various ways, different motors, added or improved filtration, hose creations ( like ten footers for the Metrovac and for old Eurekas ), even made a few custom expander cages ( those work ! ) to reduce the loss of airflow as the bag fills. A Frankenkirby is just part of the terrain here.
 
So I am in the process of trying to acquire the parts to convert my Avalir 2 to Avalir Platinum spec but using the insulated fill tube sold on the European models. I want a quiet Kirby. When I die and someone else gets that Kirby are they going to think I was doing something by way of fraud?
As I said in the earlier post, the clones I have are more than just a couple parts being replaced, it's every single part changed to make it look like a model it isn't. Wheels, bag, handle, handle color insert, handle grip, nozzle, power switch color, cord color, everything. And it was done that way decades ago when the model was new.
 
So this D80 was done at a vac shop with aftermarket, non genuine trim parts. You could buy it all back in the day in any color you like, and even came in whole kits. The concept of rebuilding older machines in current trim colors actually came from Kirby themselves, back in the day, when you sent an older Kirby in for factory rebuild, it was an optional up-charge to have it come back in the current machine colors.
 
So this D80 was done at a vac shop with aftermarket, non genuine trim parts. You could buy it all back in the day in any color you like, and even came in whole kits. The concept of rebuilding older machines in current trim colors actually came from Kirby themselves, back in the day, when you sent an older Kirby in for factory rebuild, it was an optional up-charge to have it come back in the current machine colors.
But of course that was all official, original name tag removed, new rebuilt sticker applied, all official, was it not? All the ones I have still have their original model tags.
 
First up is the bojack Kirby, not sure on the model. The only genuine trim part on this is the bag I believe (might not even be) and there's no tag left on it. Also that entire belt lifter is a bojack replacement, it is chromed plastic!!
 

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Next is one changed color by Kirby, technically this could have been done at a Kirby dealer too, as back then Kirby made those rebuilt tags available to the dealers if they wanted to do the refurbishing in house, still factory sanctioned. This one I've had for probably 30 years (meaning I was around 7 when I got this). It came to me missing the cord and with a loose rod that the nozzle hooks on, sadly I stole the brush from it years ago, and never really gave it enough love, but thankfully I kept it, will be cleaning it up this year and finally enjoying it.
 

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Wow seeing the Bison and Kirby side by side really puts into perspective how enormous it is! I never knew they were at least double or triple the Kirby's size!
 
Those are some mean green machines! I've read from making the movie The Brave Little Toaster that Kirby was an inspiration to the DS80. However that Bison looks a little more closer to it in my opinion. The one I think is about as close to Kirby would be any green Royal.

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The Bison, just like a Classic series Kirby, will kinda dwarf the older smaller models. The nozzle width is about the same as a Classic, but its longer front to back, I suppose more like a G series Kirby. And the wheels on it are large and wide, and it actually pushes nicer than a Kirby, while screaming like a jet engine though...
 

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