My DC41 MK2. I must be mad!

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<span style="font-size: 16.3636360168457px;">Well, Oli has been going on and on and in post aftetr post about his new Dyson and how Grand it is. This repetative gloating will natuarally cause someone with differing views and opinions want to express those views and opinions so that the overall thread will be balanced. </span>


 


<span style="font-size: 16.3636360168457px;">So what if I like Kirbys. Sebo_fan loves his Sebos and Super Sweeper likes Fantoms and Kirbys. When someone gloats over and over about a certain brand of vacuum, then he should expect others to defend the vacuums they love. And I think we can all agree that the majority of folks on this forum prefer bagged machines over bagless ones. Just sayin......</span>
 
What on earth are you on about? This is a thread about my dyson and how much I love it, of course I am going to sing its praises, here! Unlike some on this thread, I have not and will not go onto other threads and say "yeah but its not as good as my dyson". What do you expect? This is a thread I made describing my dyson. I appreciate people have different view and tastes, but the people who criticize this vacuum obviously have not used it at all, which I find amazing, how they can jump to an immediate conclusion. I literally don't know what the rules are anymore.

It's just pathetic really now isn't it.
 
I am also kinda getting a little bit sick of debates now against Dyson, so lets forget what happened, and talk about what this thread was for intentionally?
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I love that Dyson DC41 you have there, I hotel it gives you many many years if trouble free service, and same with your mum's Dyson as well as your sisters DC25.
I loved my Dyson DC25 Animal when I had it, it kinds beat the carpet too due to stiff bristles, but it did have a few niggles when. I owned it, like a stubborn wand to pull out and the post filter which kept popping out (Dyson sent out a new one for free) and it's seal made groaning noises.

I was not impressed with my friends DC41 Animal, so it out me off the newer Dysons after DC33, but I think he messed it up by not using it with filters or something. His mum replaced it with a DC39 multi floor which they love better.

I would love to own a DC41 EA to use as a daily driver, it seems like a really powerful vacuum, and so innovative, even the small things I forget about are cool aswell (like the tangle free turbine head) which is not what I am interested in, just the power of the new Dyson :)
Thank you for posting such a well written thread, you truly deserve the respect for taking time out of your day to share your thoughts on your Dyson, even though you can relax with a cup of tea and admire your Dyson lol :)
Enjoy!
 
I have to say although not had a Dyson in about 5 years, this new DC41 MK2 looks impressive with it cleaning ability at the nozzle end. Wonder if there will be a 4th generation ball. At moment Dyson seem to be improving and changing the 3rd generation ones at present. Could there be any different kind of ball technology.
 
Oliveoiltinfoil,

I've not been on here in a while. Seen the pictures showing the cable of the Dyson and Sebo Felix. I did the same comparison on a 2012 Felix and the Dyson has got a better cable on it. I've the same type on my DC24,nice and chunky. My mum has an old Sebo X1 and it had a good quality cable like that but the latest Sebos don't seem to.

That DC41 MK2 looks impressive and for only 700 watts, well done to Dyson for producing this kind of cleaning performance at only 700 watts. My DC24 at only 650 watts cleans my carpets fine. I have a preference of a DC24 over a DC50 for example because I like having a foot pedal and aluminium wand. Just my preference.

Pleased you like your new machine. Thanks for sharing the pick up video and pics.
 
I'm just going to withdraw myself from the topic...enjoy your Dyson and have fun with it! I barely know what's going on anymore in this thread, something about opinions or something. I'll agree, back to topic we go! 
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Back in April I bought a second hand DC41 with no warranty, which I am now selling as replaced by the Mk2 (with full 5 years warranty)
The cleaner heads can be swapped over, although I've not powered them up like that. The new bristles are stiffer, and the catches to unlock the base of the cleaner head are a lot easier to operate to open for cleaning.
The new head is open and is better at grooming without stripes than the old head.

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Nice picture for comparison there dude.

So the head is around 1 to 2 inches narrower? Guess that is going to help with concentrating the suction. The bristles certainly look much more substantial. Gives us your thoughts on it man, see if you are as impressed with it as I am.

By the way, I just bought a DC01 for £37 with all the original stickers and a new set of genuine filters. It is the original, original DC01 with the old dyson branding. Did I do well?
 
Gosh that is some comparasion between the 2 version of cleaning heads. You can see the gap at the front of the brush bar on the MK2 head has been reduced if not completely gone as the brushes are not visible at the front from the above picture comparasion. The side edges look slightly narrower, so does the belt/brush bar pulley. Just looking at the picture you could say the 2 part brush bars are the side length if you take into account the other changes I mention! The MK1 had 2 rows of brushes I believe both of different lengths too! You can see why the MK2 cleaning head may be more effective at pickup and performance.

You can't knock James Dyson and his Engineers for pushing the boundaries of engineering and improving existing technology and continuing to do so. Trying to be more efficient using less materials, energy etc...
 
He literally says that. His engineers trying to reduce the use of materials, while making the machines perform better and physically stronger, as well as lighter.
 
The agitation from the Mk2 head is certainly better than the original, and I'm pulling as much fine sand from the dining room carpet (old, flattened on a concrete floor) as with the Mk1. The purple trim to the head must help the seal, with the adjustable lip needed as a suction relief on thin carpets/hard floors.

Tried my energy meter to see if the wattage claims are true:

DC41: 1280 Watts, 1360 with Brushbar on about 84 dB at head height with phone app
DC41 Mk2: 750 Watts, 850 with Brushbar on, about 83 dB, nicer noise.
Kirby G5: 560 Watts, 630 with the Techdrive engaged and running, 86 dB, deeper tone
(Yes I bought and got refurbed an old Kirby just to see what they are like)

Notice the filter wash labels say every 3 months on the Mk1, every 1 month on the Mk2

I've read on the Dyson forum that the roller wheel under the Brushbar motor is a weak point, and if broken can't be fixed, looks similar on the Mk2, so I'd keep an eye on it's conditon.

A nice clean DC01 for £37 is good!. At work they have a battered one still in use, and I recently refurbed a DC04i (Blue, carpet only) and gave it to my GFs parents, in return I got their old DC01, so work now have 2!
 
The Dyson whale under the brush bar used to be a weak point on the new Dyson DC 41 MKI2 it's all been reinforced and has been changed slightly it doesn't have the same problem as the old ones
 
He certainly does. They are always pushing boundaries. I wouldn't be surprised if his corded vacuums will get replaced by the cordless digital slim models as performance and battery life continues to improve. I'm sure I've read somewhere it's been hinted at!
 
Hi again! Not here to promote other brands, but merely add some input! 
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Dropping the uprights would be quite the gamble, they could easily lose customers. Many may speculate or discover first-hand that the Slim can not keep-up with their household, where their former upright handheld it well. This will either leave customers clinging to their uprights for as long as possible, or customers leaving Dyson entirely. I'm sure Dyson lost some of it's followers when they discontinued their wheeled models entirely, who's to say the same can't happen in this event? 
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An engineer interviewed at the launch of the dc59 said outright that Dysons becoming cordless is not a matter of "if", but "when".

I could easily imagine a DC41 cordless. What dyson have going for them is their digital motor, which I know is nothing new in itself, but their DDM's are incredibly efficient, spinning very fast and creating a great amount of suction. You know the DC59 on max creates 100 air watts of suction, which consider the dirt has to travel a short distance, is a fair amount.

Just having the current range of cordless uprights for dyson wouldn't be good enough for some people who want a larger bin canister, for example. So a full sized cordless upright would be much more beneficial. It has already been done, in the form of the hoover/vax air cordless, but that has very poor suction, I know as I tried one out. You know if dyson try the same thing, they will wait until they can get the suction to a decent level. He said something similar about the robotic vacuums, that this 360 eye has been in development for around 13 years and he wanted to get the navigation sorted. He was interviewed in 2012 saying that.
 
Robotic vacs are the next logical step and ones shown at IFA shows in past years can also do vertical cleaning of windows. I think Dyson's new polisher type pick up "fluffy" hard floor roller will see service in the robots planned, but if it's a Dyson, it will be expensive, when it appears.

That's the thing about Dyson though - the company are constantly inventing - which says a lot for other brands who just rely on Wessel Werk to develop floor heads and buy them in. Only some brands like SEBO, Samsung will develop floor heads all of their own - but they do it quietly without any advertising.
 
The things I love about Dyson you know you're getting a quality vacuum with fantastic carpet and hard floor cleaning less maintenance compare to others vacuum to be honest barely anything and fantastic guarantee with fantastic customer Service and Great durability and you know it's going to last and the Great thing is Dysons is only getting better and better and is always innovating.
 
I saw a pic on Vax UK's FB page that there was Roger's air cordless with a bin full of dust which had been picked up after using his corded vacuum! I told vax I have a DC14 and doubted I would get as much as that, as the DC14 is a pretty good vacuum, and they said "We think you will get the same results, Tayyab :)" and I am like "Oh really?"
 
Loved the QVC video. They were testing things there that you wouldn't think would need testing, but make sense, like the cord where it connects to the body, the head swivelling, the bashing, it is brilliant.
 
it's just brilliant how they test them like to see a Chinese made Hoover and the Vax survive those tests Without break and did you know that Those machines are tested For 24 hours a day in seven days a week and if something breaks they redesign the part they change it on the next batch just amazing.I friend had the Dyson DC 05 for 14 years she gave it to me it was still working and I sold it was like three or four years ago and it is still working to this day you anything she broke on it was the handle. And I absolutely love those QVC demonstration they are just so cool and before about getting a Dyson dc39 animal they are just amazing the amount of suction is generated by at 750 W is just amazing the suction is 260aw and The turbine head is just fantastic it never slows down is the best turbo brush ever again and as got fantastic durability. How the filters looking on your Dyson dc41mk2??? Are they still spotless???
 
Congratulations Oli' on your newest acquisition! I think primarily the most pressing problem here is, and it is as follows: We consumers are just simply commiserating over our previous experiences with the different model types of Dyson, which they have offered us throughout the years. This really can be one of those Eureka style moments, when, alas,  Dyson may have finally gotten it right!


 


Remember: Those who endure the longest reap the greatest reward, or is it: Dream small and you'll never be disappointed...Oh, which one can it be...I forget?! 
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This isn't just on par with other vacuums I have used, as regards performance, it is on another level. No other vacuum I have had sticks to the floor like this does, agitate the carpet as well, nor have as an efficient filtration system.

Speaking of which, here is the filter after 3 weeks of use;

I am also uploading a sample of the suction at the head and it sticking to and lifting up my thick piled carpet and low/medium piled carpet. Will post a link once it has completed.

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I Know what you mean this machine is just fantastic specially the cyclone separation is fantastic Machines the filters get dirty very quickly one stay spotless for weeks and months. And are currently tell in the picture but your filters still clean. I Am Sure is.
 
Finally, the End of Nothing! Practice really can make for perfect. My only hope now is that it remains durable, and if so, so much the better. 
 
Ooh I really want a vacuum that sticks to the floor really well and pick up lots of dirt, and I dont really mind if its hard to push :)
 
That sounds like the interview oliveoiltinfoil I read. I thought it mentioned a case of when Dyson will go fully cordless.

I think the Digital Slim will form the bases of new cordless vacuums from Dyson, I don't think they will do a full size cordless machine. James Dyson likes to be different and do more with less. People cleaning habits are changing in this modern day living. People don't want to spend time, hours cleaning or doing a weekly deep clean as people want to spend time doing other things with family and friends enjoying life!! People are moving towards more quick daily cleans that don't take long to do. That's where Dyson has slotted his Digital Slim into. With more daily cleans a big bin is not necessary required as you can dump the dirt after each clean! I'm not saying everyone is going to be cleaning this way but with busy life styles these days things and day to day life is changing too.

Once they have a full size machine cleaning performance and battery life is longer i think the Digital Slim will take over his full size machines permanently. Or a version of the Slim.
 
Reply #166, I'm keeping my mouth shut on that! 
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James could easily do away with the uprights. He'll probably say something along the lines of, 'with the smaller bin, you have twice the suction of the uprights', it wouldn't be the first time he contradicted himself.
 

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