My DC41 MK2. I must be mad!

[super-sweeper]

Reply 128- I cringed most of all! Not all of their ideas are terrible, mainly Dual-Cyclonic (NOT 50 mini-cyclones crammed into a bin!) And that tangle-free tool thingy, although if you try hard enough you can still tangle it! 

 


 


Even the mighty Kirby has to be switched into tool mode for beds! Unless your bed is about 2 feet off the ground, you better hope you're vacuuming with a canister! People are flat-out lazy if they can't pop the handle off and grab the floor brush from the closet! I guess spring cleaning has become a forgotten art! When the dust calls, I have the Kirby and it's neat carry-strap ready in a flash, them I'm about the house, carrying the attachment case with me! Now, before somebody throws a fit and says something about me being against Dyson, I don't run around the house with the Fantom in tow! As great as a vacuum it is, I leave it's hose for quick crevices and pick-up, plus occasionally floors (Fantom has the floor tool on-board, too!). One thing I give Dyson credit for being able to revert the wand, and use it as if it was the wand of a canister. If Fantom could do this, it would be icing on the cake! But foolish Dyson did away with this after the DC07! Now you have to pull it out of the cleaner, and hold it at an awkward angle! 

 


Bla bla air watts, Kirby or Dyson, either way the carpet is clean! Well, one is likely to be cleaner than the other....

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Okay.

 

[super-sweeper]

Get some sleep, Oli! Your reply hasn't made sense since 5:11 AM! 

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Okay so that is nothing to do with the time zone difference between the UK and US?

 

[sebo_fan]

Dont worry Oli, Super-Sweeper is like another member on here - they reflect on what they don't own and offer judgement.

My argument with Dyson all along has been cost price.

It is the same with Kirby in the UK; Far too pricey.

Same with Oreck UK; many buyers end up buying Oreck models second hand off EBay UK because the UK prices brand new are not cost effective.

When I was your age, I though Miele and SEBO vacuums were expensive to buy. When it came to actual ownership, it made a lot of sense compared to other brands and models I owned.

 

[super-sweeper]

My apologies, I forgot about the time difference! Here in Florida it's 7:00 in the morning! 


 


Sebo guy, who are you comparing me to? Have you not been paying attention to my previous replies? You do not have to own something to have an opinion, do I need to own the president to form an opinion on him?


 


Let me provide you with a different example:


 


So this guy named Rick goes out to town and buys a Mercedes. He owns his Mercedes for 3 months, then it blows a transmission.based off his experience, I can say that his Mercedes was a terrible car. When you continue to see Mercedes with problems, you can say that the model is defective.when the problems spread across other models, you can say that Mercedes is not a quality car (not saying that Mercedes isn't a quality car, but I had to use some brand of car for this example!).

 

[sebo_fan]

You do not have to own anything to have an opinion. But filling up every thread on this forum with your opinion with constant reference to old vacuums isn't exactly sharing an opinion of new content.

For example, I wouldn't say Mercedes is a bad car from your example - I would say there could be reasons to why the transmission blew as to the ownership and duress in which that owner has put the car through. Your example lacks detail in terms of that actual usage.

Furthermore, if the same problem occurs across every model in the MB range, then you could say that the brand has defective problems, but I wouldn't say that MB is NOT a quality brand based on that detail.

Quality after all can mean a lot of aspects - not just build or design elements.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

You can hardly compare your opinions of a president, to someone else's bloody vacuum cleaner! What the president does affects you in virtually every single way. What vacuum cleaner I have doesn't. It is foolish to judge if you like or do not like a PRODUCT based on here-say. I love my sebo. It is a beautifully made vacuum with good performance and it is nice to use. I love my dyson. It is a well engineered vacuum, very easy to use and brilliant performance. Nothing in life is perfect. I can point out thing I don't like on either vacuums. For goodness sake this is a vacuum thread, not a debate on next year general election.

 

[daknx1994]

Can we all just let someone enjoy their new vacuum? Oli, if I may call you that, started this thread to talk about his new Dyson, and describe his amazement with it. Everyone here on this forum is going to have likes and dislikes about certain brands and machines. I see this in other threads that involve not just Dyson's.  It gets to a point though where in every Dyson thread, it never ends without a war on how terrible or pricey they are or how another brand is somehow so superior to the Dyson. I will admit I am not a fan of the brand, but I have to give Dyson a credit for trying and changing the vacuum market in general. As far as bag/bagless, again everyone will have their own opinion. One in not necessarily better than the other. Each is going to have their own advantages and disadvantages. It all depends on how the owner uses the vacuum and takes care of it. I have seen bagless vacuums years old, that do not have a smell and just need a good cleaning. At the same time I have seen bagged vacuums in just the most terrible state because the owner overfilled the bag or only changes it every so often causing odors to build up. The same can be said of bagless.


 


So for the sake of this thread can we all just agree with our differences in preference, and let Oli tells us about his new Dyson?

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

THANK YOU! Took the words straight out of my mouth.

 

[sptyks]

<span style="font-size: 16.3636360168457px;">Well, Oli has been going on and on and in post aftetr post about his new Dyson and how Grand it is. This repetative gloating will natuarally cause someone with differing views and opinions want to express those views and opinions so that the overall thread will be balanced. </span>


 


<span style="font-size: 16.3636360168457px;">So what if I like Kirbys. Sebo_fan loves his Sebos and Super Sweeper likes Fantoms and Kirbys. When someone gloats over and over about a certain brand of vacuum, then he should expect others to defend the vacuums they love. And I think we can all agree that the majority of folks on this forum prefer bagged machines over bagless ones. Just sayin......</span>

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

What on earth are you on about? This is a thread about my dyson and how much I love it, of course I am going to sing its praises, here! Unlike some on this thread, I have not and will not go onto other threads and say "yeah but its not as good as my dyson". What do you expect? This is a thread I made describing my dyson. I appreciate people have different view and tastes, but the people who criticize this vacuum obviously have not used it at all, which I find amazing, how they can jump to an immediate conclusion. I literally don't know what the rules are anymore.

It's just pathetic really now isn't it.

 

[parwaz786]

I am also kinda getting a little bit sick of debates now against Dyson, so lets forget what happened, and talk about what this thread was for intentionally?
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I love that Dyson DC41 you have there, I hotel it gives you many many years if trouble free service, and same with your mum's Dyson as well as your sisters DC25.
I loved my Dyson DC25 Animal when I had it, it kinds beat the carpet too due to stiff bristles, but it did have a few niggles when. I owned it, like a stubborn wand to pull out and the post filter which kept popping out (Dyson sent out a new one for free) and it's seal made groaning noises.

I was not impressed with my friends DC41 Animal, so it out me off the newer Dysons after DC33, but I think he messed it up by not using it with filters or something. His mum replaced it with a DC39 multi floor which they love better.

I would love to own a DC41 EA to use as a daily driver, it seems like a really powerful vacuum, and so innovative, even the small things I forget about are cool aswell (like the tangle free turbine head) which is not what I am interested in, just the power of the new Dyson
Thank you for posting such a well written thread, you truly deserve the respect for taking time out of your day to share your thoughts on your Dyson, even though you can relax with a cup of tea and admire your Dyson lol
Enjoy!

 

[madaboutsebo]

I have to say although not had a Dyson in about 5 years, this new DC41 MK2 looks impressive with it cleaning ability at the nozzle end. Wonder if there will be a 4th generation ball. At moment Dyson seem to be improving and changing the 3rd generation ones at present. Could there be any different kind of ball technology.

 

[blakaeg]

Oliveoiltinfoil,

I've not been on here in a while. Seen the pictures showing the cable of the Dyson and Sebo Felix. I did the same comparison on a 2012 Felix and the Dyson has got a better cable on it. I've the same type on my DC24,nice and chunky. My mum has an old Sebo X1 and it had a good quality cable like that but the latest Sebos don't seem to.

That DC41 MK2 looks impressive and for only 700 watts, well done to Dyson for producing this kind of cleaning performance at only 700 watts. My DC24 at only 650 watts cleans my carpets fine. I have a preference of a DC24 over a DC50 for example because I like having a foot pedal and aluminium wand. Just my preference.

Pleased you like your new machine. Thanks for sharing the pick up video and pics.

 

[super-sweeper]

I'm just going to withdraw myself from the topic...enjoy your Dyson and have fun with it! I barely know what's going on anymore in this thread, something about opinions or something. I'll agree, back to topic we go! 

 

[simtan44]

Back in April I bought a second hand DC41 with no warranty, which I am now selling as replaced by the Mk2 (with full 5 years warranty)
The cleaner heads can be swapped over, although I've not powered them up like that. The new bristles are stiffer, and the catches to unlock the base of the cleaner head are a lot easier to operate to open for cleaning.
The new head is open and is better at grooming without stripes than the old head.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

Nice picture for comparison there dude.

So the head is around 1 to 2 inches narrower? Guess that is going to help with concentrating the suction. The bristles certainly look much more substantial. Gives us your thoughts on it man, see if you are as impressed with it as I am.

By the way, I just bought a DC01 for £37 with all the original stickers and a new set of genuine filters. It is the original, original DC01 with the old dyson branding. Did I do well?

 

[madaboutsebo]

Gosh that is some comparasion between the 2 version of cleaning heads. You can see the gap at the front of the brush bar on the MK2 head has been reduced if not completely gone as the brushes are not visible at the front from the above picture comparasion. The side edges look slightly narrower, so does the belt/brush bar pulley. Just looking at the picture you could say the 2 part brush bars are the side length if you take into account the other changes I mention! The MK1 had 2 rows of brushes I believe both of different lengths too! You can see why the MK2 cleaning head may be more effective at pickup and performance.

You can't knock James Dyson and his Engineers for pushing the boundaries of engineering and improving existing technology and continuing to do so. Trying to be more efficient using less materials, energy etc...

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

He literally says that. His engineers trying to reduce the use of materials, while making the machines perform better and physically stronger, as well as lighter.