Miele S7 or U1 Parts Needed or Motor Help?

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chicagomike

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If anyone has parts for a Miele S7 (or U1) series vac I am in need of the part shown in the first picture. Or can I bypass the over heat protection - shame to junk the vac because the motor itself works as I swapped the part I need from a working vac and then this broken vac motor worked and red light disappeared.

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If bypassing is the only solution as no one has the part needed, which wire is omitted? See Photo 4 - wire 2, 3, or 4 is omitted and See photo 10 the other 2 remaining will be connected directly to terminal in the motor where the overload was connected.
 
They're going to toast The other board if you try to bypass that.

Unfortunately that parts only available the fan motor.

you might call your local dealer and see if they have any motors with bad bearings.
 
Why not just tear out all the fancy gadgetry and wire the cord directly to the motor with a toggle switch? I don't know why Miele decided to go the plasticrap route and put unnecessary circuit boards in their vacuums.
 
@crazykirbydude Those circuit boards there's two of them in this machine are very necessary for their operation. They are not cheapening the vacuum in any way.
Motor trizact boards are used by most companies out there. The secondary board by the handle what's the userknow error codes, and allows electronic speed control.

@vaclab @madman
I would very much take caution into soldering a new part on.
There is a reason then it went out usually caused by a problem with the motor itself. If you do decide to go this route you must make sure it is from the exact same brand and company that made it for Miele! The engineer these things with extremely tight tolerances getting the wrong component could cause other things to happen.
 
@vacuumdevil, if the component part bears the same exact part number, it should be in tolerance of all the design specs of the original. I mean yeah... there could be sub-par components, but it's not the 1970s anymore, the Chinese literally make 90% of electronic components now. And it's just a thyristor (1970s technology), it's not some bleeding edge cpu or something.

Of course, matching the part number exactly *IS* essential.
 
@madman The circuit boards from Miele are not made in China most of the circuit boards are made in Ukraine or Germany depending on the machine.
You don't have much experience with tight tolerances of engineering.

I can think of several times when manufacturers have had the components swapped out without their knowledge and it's caused issues.
This is happens not only to Miele but also to SEBO.

At the end of the day this whole motor really should be changed. Trying to repai board after it was taken out by something else is generally a bad idea.

I'm appalled that people vacuumland are even suggesting these Bojack repairs that simply are not going to work and cause OP to waste money and time.

I know you guys think you're help. I have fixed thousands of these machines over the years it's well-documented what to change when things happen.

Looking at the second picture again
@chicagomike that motor is in poor condition and needs to be changed out.

I would be willing to bet the machine was either used without the bag in place or has some sort of flood damage in it.
 
If it were me, I’d just replace the thyristor...and I’m an engineer. Those components are very inexpensive to source, so what’s the harm in trying? Madman’s right; if you get the same part number, you’re good to go.
 
@vacuumdevil - Listen, I get that you're trying to help as well. But you need to take a step down from your high horse, buddy. I am a mechanic. I repair things for a living. And I know plenty about engineering tolerances and subpar parts. Look. I'm going to ask you very nicely: please don't patronize me on the topic of repairing machines.

Further, there's nothing 'bojack' about using an identical part to repair something. What you're suggesting - replacing the entire motor unit because one tiny part is bad - is appallingly wasteful (you're filling landfills), and not cost effective for somebody who's apparently repairing their own vacuum. Your way of thinking, to just change the whole unit, is how repairs are done to things under warranty. And the manufacturer does it that way because they do thousands of such repairs, and the 10% chance a repair (as versus a replacement) will not work, adds up to hundreds of cases that each hurt their reputation and cost them lots of money. The end user fixing ONE or TWO machines is a completely different scenario, and has to be treated as such. With an assumed 10% chance of not working, it doesn't even matter, because it's worth the gamble. Wouldn't you bet money on something with a 90% chance of winning? Those are good odds. And even IF it doesn't work, he'll just fix it again! Waste of money, you say. Less than $10 for a component part, admittedly, it may not work, or he may damage the board trying to solder it, fine. That's a gamble. It's none of our business whether he decides to gamble on that or not. But I'll tell you one thing, that motor unit is probably minimum $100, am I right? How is gambling $10 a 'waste of money' compared to spending $100 outright without even trying to save that money?

I don't know about Chicagomike, but not everyone is made of money.
 
keep it Kosher

@madman Sorry if you feel that I am patronizing you that is not my intent. If I was going to do that you'd hear some bronie remarks

Nobody has suggested using the proper parts. Let alone the proper components.

I have years of experience and thousands of repairs that I'm referring to when I speak of this sort of stuff. I know your auto mechanic and very mechanical so the situation is even more perplexing to you. It's not a $10 Gamble it's a another $400 worth of parts that could get messed up by doing that. How many Miele s7 or U1 vacuums have you worked on?







 
"How many Miele s7 or U1 vacuums have you worked on?"

None, but I've probably repaired more electronics and circuit boards than you have, and that's the topic we're discussing here. Also, you're still patronizing me. Seriously, what's with the condescending attitude, man? We're both here to help someone else make a repair.

Check out the link, which was provided by vaclab. See the manufacturer's logo? Good, now check out the first picture of the first post in this thread. Tell me that isn't the same logo on that thyristor. An *identical* part from the *same* manufacturer is not 'bojack,' end of story.

I'll agree, yeah things can go wrong. But a properly installed identical part will NOT cause a problem, period. On the other hand, an improperly installed part might. But I fail to see how that has anything to do with the problem at hand. Neither one of us is the one making the repair to this machine. And quite honestly, I feel like you're being condescending to me AND chicagomike. What you're implying is that neither me nor he is capable of repairing a circuit board. Because apparently it will cause so much damage to other parts. Right. He's already done a good job troubleshooting. I think you need to take a step back and let chicagomike decide for himself whether he's up for tackling a repair like that.

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/T2050H-6T?qs=cHcTzCDd3fpSyEC%2BQoKu2g==
 
Both of you really need to calm down. It's not your vacuum, so why are you arguing online over a vacuum that isn't even yours? Just be nice! It takes away the fun of this forum when people are constantly bickering. You guys are grown adults arguing online over a tiny little thyristor. Think about that for a bit.
 
Both of you really need to calm down. It's not your vacuum, so why are you arguing online over a vacuum that isn't even yours? Just be nice! It takes away the fun of this forum when people are constantly bickering. You guys are grown adults arguing online over a tiny little thyristor. Think about that for a bit.
 
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