leaving vacuumland

[hoover119dude]

Hi all.

I will be leaving vacuumland and am selling the vacs I have on ebay soon.

I will be selling my hoover 119 as well as a vactric silent Q and unless someone wants to buy and collect the 700 I shall be selling the bag and tools as they are in perfect shape and as far as I know the tools have never been used.

I have decided to go as I have lost interest in this hobby due to the lack of friends as most are in the U.S anyway. It would have been nice to meet other collectors here but no one wants to meet up like they do in the states. I sure wish I could go back. At least there I would have enjoyed this great hobby more and went to the conventions.

We tried to have one here but everybody moaned and bitched about the distance. I rarely get replies to my threads . I was going to post a thread to find out when the Goblin model 29 was made but I wont bother posting that question. I will stick to trying to find out on the web. The model 29 is the only one I am keeping.

I have lost interest and I don't want a load of old vacs hanging around taking up space.

 

[cb123]

I'm really Sorry to hear about that! And judging from how our members were so quick in responding to your thread, well, what has been about a day now? It really does seem like things are getting pretty flat around here. Whatever you decide to do, keep all of your really old, nice stuff and unload the trash on someone else - you won't regret it in some far off later date. This hobby is not about others, it's about yourself...You must remember that. If these objects bring you a certain satisfaction, then by all mean collect them, if not, than move on to something else more worthy, but even still, keep your best examples. For one day you may have a change of heart, and then you will lament for have doing so.  Whatever your decision, best of luck!

 

[gottahaveahoove]

I too, am sorry about your desatisfaction.

I haven't been posting a lot lately. Last week, my aunt passed away. The other day, I got a bad case of food poisoning. I just saw your post.
I remember you guys trying to organize a meet. They ARE great fun AND a lot of work. I'm very fortunate as it's not hard to assemble a group because there are a lot of us not too far away.
I wouldn't let that stop your passion. I've made great friends in here and have annoyed many others. Most of the latter have never met me. There's really nothing I can OR intend to do about that. Of course, the decision IS yours. I hope it works out well for you. Just never forget how your hobby began.

 

[fairfax88]

Same ol story,

If you are not a part of the " CLICK " then you are nobody! I learned that a very long time ago.... I really don't know why I keep paying the yearly dues just too be able too read what the " CLICK " has too post....I said it once,and I'll say it again,this club has never been the same since Terry's passing.
~David

 

[sebo_fan]

You should consider the FB group based in the UK. There are many members on there who are also on here, in the UK. I think it is foolhardy to give up collecting just because a meeting with others can't be organised outside of an online forum though.

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I have tried contributing to the forum as best I can and it either ends up in ridiculous argument over vacuums, bashing Dyson and all about Kirbys. My conclusion anyway. I know what you mean my friend.

 

[anthony]

i would also agree with the above

lots of bickering about who has the best or which is the best and not enough about repairing and maintenance and god help you if you criticize the almighty Dyson

 

[whirlpolf]

I have found the same

whether here or on the washer forum: Mainly American based (which is fully ok, notwithstanding) - there are a few keen posters like kenmoreguy (Francesco) in Italy (washers) or Marcus in Finland (vacs) - but apart from that and seen from afar it feels like a purely US (not even Canadian or Aussie) speak of "Kaffeeklatsch".

In the old days I kept posting more regularly but today:
Before even thinking about posting something I have turned to re-reading it 2 or 3 times the other day and then (most of the times) discard it again because it will most probably be unsuitable for the "American" market / will not be interesting enough / will just be clicked away for being too "Euro" = out of this world. (As for example products cannot be had over there or we have different brands or whatever).

It is a strange case of feeling like a tourist after all.

I can fully understand your choice of wanting to leave while I do not subscribe to abandonning your collection.
Do not throw out the baby with the bath water (I had done that one, never again! = I trashed 2 garages full of Vorwerks, even the ancient ones and some prototypes)

Good luck with whatever might come your way. All my blessings.
May the suction power be with you. (a pun, ok - but with all my heart's good meanings to it).
Stick to what YOU like. Never ask.
Joe

 

[gottahaveahoove]

I personally enjoy listening to what

the non-Americans do, say, and have. It's fascinating even to see the differences in Hoovers. Iwas never in a "click". I also never bash. We, (over here) dislike the pettiness, bashing, mocking that goes on. I choose to rise above it all. I've made great friends in here over the years. Some of them even "tolerate" my exclusive Hoover collecting, while I tolerate their 'other species'. We get along pefectly. 2 members from UK came across the pond for Hoover's 100th Birthday. It was great to see them and see their reaction to being "where it all began".
I can't speak for, OR apologize for anyone else. But, I WILL say: it would be terible to see anyone leave. It would also be terrible to see anyone get rid of a collection they cherish, enjoy, and are so proud of. We all know how much time it takes to accumulate one.
Once, early on, I almost left the VCCC. I'll never do that now. I realized that thereare MANY types of people in here. We won't all get along. We don't have to. But, respect is absolutely neccessary. And, that's what I try to give everyone. For some, it's a much bigger challenge.

 

[cb123]

We do have our fair share of  Anatol Rapoport's  " Tit for Tat " strategy going on around here. It usually starts off in someone's new " Thread " as a reprisal in a secondary argument. And then those who were injured by the initial attack, feel that they must somehow avenge themselves with a vicious counter attack. And so the necrotic poison spreads - killing all the surrounding flesh, but this is how the venom works...one toxic word at a time.   

 

[sebo_fan]

Actually, it would appear that at one point, hooverdude has been a member of the vacuum cleaner forum on Facebook and it would also appear that this is not the first time he has threatened to leave THIS site.

Given the fact that you haven't been banned from this site, unlike some other unfortunate UK members, I don't think it is worthwhile to give up on collecting vacuums even if your home cannot accomodate any more.

Similiarly, we can't all follow the same approaches practised in every country and its associated members who join this site.

A real meeting outside of a forum is possible, provided that you have the wishes carried forward by those who wish to attend = and as far as I am concerned, despite most of the Facegroup group being English, and some in the North, my geographical location is far and away one of the most furthest. It is not the thought that I don't want to meet, but rather because of my day job, I have very little time off.

 

[ronni]

I , too, am sorry that you are planning on leaving Vacuumland and giving up your collection for the reasons you gave.

I do not mean to diminish them or point a finger, but I heard a story some time ago that may change your perspective ...

"A man who had just moved to town went to get his hair cut at the local barbershop. He was glad that a chair was available as he hadn't much time and relayed that to the barber as he quickly sat down. As his hair was being trimmed the man inquired as to the nature of the town's residents. The wise old barber replied that he first needed to know what the people were like in the town where he used to live. So the man bent his ear and proceeded to elaborate on all the negatives--including those who were unfriendly, gossipy, know-it-alls, and cliquey; so he was glad to move away from it. Afterward the barber sighed and retorted that the man would unfortunately find the same type of people there. Dismayed, the man paid his bill and left--ignoring the barber's bidding pleasantry and the others who were there.

Soon after another newcomer to town came in for a trim, smiling and introducing himself. He, too, was curious about what the townspeople were like and questioned the proprietor. And, just like before, the judicious barber responded that he would respond after hearing about the town where the gent had previously lived; and did he get an earful! The customer warmly told of a town that was friendly, caring, sharing, and inclusive; in fact, he said, he and his family were sorry to leave it. To that, the barber smiled and assured the man that he would find the same environment there. The man thanked the barber--both in words and a generous tip--and smiling to the barber and the other patrons he said he'd look forward to their next visit as he held the door open for someone else to enter before departing on his way."

So, while the town was the same for both newcomers, it was different in their perspectives.

You can't change others, but you can change how you respond to and think of them.

I encourage you to rethink your decision to give up your hobby and leave Vacuumland and give it another shot. Even if you have to start small with just one other collector (as clubs in America have done) it will be worth it.

Barbershop Trivia:

1) "barber" is from the Latin "barba", (English "beard")
2) Barber poles (typically red and white or red, white, and blue in America) have been around since the medieval times when barbers performed bloodletting and tooth extractions along with cutting hair. The red symbolized blood and the white bandages.

______

Floyd Lawson (Howard McNear), the barber on "The Andy Griffith Show", 1960-68:

 

[kirbysthebest]

If I could make a suggestion

Rather than dramatically leaving and selling off your collection.


You may have lost interest for now, but if you take a break and do other things you may come back and see what you loved to begin with.


 


It's ok to put your toys away for a little while and then come back.


There are things in life that upset people and it is easy to take it out on our faceless friends.  


 


BTW--All the buzz, a new Kirby, even if just a color change is big news.  Rates right up there with the Wells-Fargo wagon coming.


 


I have taken a break several times, I don't post then I come back.  I usually check in on the AW side several times a day because they are family over there.  This side feels more like the kids table at Thanksgiving (Sorry American reference again) some lack the maturity level to play with others some are one note Charlies, and many are very knowledgeable.  Even if you lurk, you will learn something.


 


Came back to edit. 


I was just on the other side, and one major difference I see is that we don't have conversations on this side.  If we do someone takes it as trying to bash and starts bashing on their own. 


 


On this side we don't get to know one another, and then share our hobby, out interest, or lives.  We just "talk shop" so to speak.


 


I suggest we start a new thread and talk about ourselves, I nominate John to start. 


 


Psst:  Humor John, I hear he has bodies in the cellar. ;-}


 


P.S.  I'm ribbing John because he's a good guy and a great sense of humor.  


 


 


 


 

[this post was last edited: 2/25/2015-22:19]

 

[midcenturyfan]

I am from England, and I am sorry to hear that people are unhappy with the forum. I have never actually met a fellow vacuum collector, but I enjoy talking to others on here. I must admit that I have not devoted as much time to Vacuumland recently, as I have more than one hobby, and not enough time. I would love to meet up with people, if it could be arranged.

Robin.

 

[ultralux88]

I've never really understood people leaving vac collecti

Personally, it's never been about having other collectors as friends, or just a hobby. I've always had an obsession with them, complete fascinated in every way with them I started collecting vacuums because I wanted to, I thought I was the only one who did for years, I do it for myself because I enjoy it and makes me happy. Having friends that share this obsession has made it more fun, people to talk vacuums with and work on and play with vacuums with just adds to the enjoyment I get from my vacuums. I would say the vast majority of collectors here are like me in this way, and regardless of how many vacuums we have, the love for them will always be there.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Very

well said. I totally agree.

 

[man114]

A little late, but I'm a collector as of stuff outside of of vacs well. One is very well known and I purposefully stay out of the limelight because collectors are not as personable as vac collectors. I got sick of dealing with it but old almost nothing. I belong to a few related forums, rarely post, despite owning a few important pieces I just don't care. It was always my personal goal that drove me.

 

[cb123]

That's ok, I don't think it's really that important anymore more...his mind is made-up! Just say your goodbyes...goodbye, see you in the next life.  

 

[gottahaveahoove]

While I've never entertained the thought of liquidating

my collection,  I thought about leaving the site in the past.


  As we all know,  there are great people on here,  just as there are some not-so-nice.  Some don't even really know us, yet daggars fly.  I would NOT leave now, as, it would be exactly what others might like. Therefore,  I'll continue to post and enjoy meeting new vac folks and enjoy hosting mini meets.  


    So,  IF you ever DO leave,  my advice would be to leave for the right reasons.  If not,  get back in the sandbox and enjoy.


John