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hi happy new year! Recently we bought a dyson and was happy with it until i vacuumed with a kirby 519. To my amazment i empted it after using the dyson to vacuum up bird seed and some regular dirt and found the bag filled. It seemed that the dyson went over all the dirt but never sucked it up. My mom said my bag was filled at the start. In ure oppinion what does clean better a kirby or dyson.
 
KIRBY THUMBS UP! (and hands down!)

Well, the Kirby will always clean better. They are so much better designed. But I think the Air-Way with a power nozzle is the best. A Kirby is great. USE IT!

~~K~~

P.S. James! HIGH-FIVE! I figure you will be posting very shortly...
 
From what I have tried-KIRBY!!!I have two Dysons-one of them came from a Kirby dealer-was a trade in to a Kirby.I feel Kirby's greater airflow and more powerful roller brush are the clinchers here.
 
Kirby or Dyson

The people on this forum never cease to amaze me. The debate over which cleans better are nothings but opinions, and opinions are like rear ends.. everyone has them and they all STINK. It's really immaterial which one cleans better, because so much of that question depends on who is using the machine. I mean we are talking about a 1959 Kirby vacuum with a 4 amp motor and a cloth bag thats belching dust---compared to a modern vacuum designed for modern homes witha HEPA filter and uncloggable filtration system. I think it's awful immature to start a thread like this, when we have seen in the past that it starts a impassioned debate. It really solves nothing and can spiral out of control easily. You should use whatever vacuum you feel comfortable with.. I myself choose a vacuum that won't blow dust all over my house & cause Glenda the good witch of the north to say "ooh.. what a smell of sulfur."

Derreck
 
We choose whether or not to let it out of our control. Most mature people would simply think of these as opinions; not trying to tell people that they are smarter and know more because the vacuum they support is better. We have seen these threads get out of hand, but we choose to let this happen.

I like to think that an older vacuum with more experience actually cleans better. They sure last longer! And Derreck: you can update the Kirby (as shown on another thread) to take paper bags. They aren't that much of a dirt leaker after that.

WE choose to make this discussion a heated argument. Let's be mature and not let it get that way! ;-)
 
Notice how this thread becomes more heated because of the posts that say it shouldn't become heated ;)

Ian
 
My 2 cents

I love vintage Kirbys as they are beautiful machines, however, in terms of overall efficiency, the Dyson would be the clear winner. Now with a more modern Kirby G-series or Sentria, the outcome would probably be different; I can see a potential advantage there; in fact, I'd probably bet the Kirby this time. Although until I can actually get up front with the machines next year and experience it firsthand, I won't know for sure. Not a 40+ year old vintage one, though.

Following up on what Derreck said, posts like this one are a perfect example of children not knowing how a particular machine works. If they did, they would not be posting anything like this in the first place. I fully understand and agree completely with what Tom G has said (both to me personally and in previous posts on here) about children posting on the forum (and another poster with the mentality of a 12-year-old...) and to find that it is for the most part TRUE. The irony lies in the fact that children are causing most of these arguments due to the fact that they are posting their opinions as FACTS. When everyone else was simply guessing, whether or not they knew it, Derreck set the record straight with a truly FACTUAL post. I also know by experience...I had to wait a few years until I was 18 to join the VCCC proper, but then (due to reading up on machines AND buying them) I came on with a better understanding of the vacuum cleaner than I would have had a forum like this existed when I was 10 and I posted nonsense there. With age comes knowledge as well as experience.

Closing the forums off to dues-paying members would definitely keep the children who have no intention of joining as guests off and prevent this bantering (and also allow for some tongue-in-cheek or slightly off-color humor from time to time without getting chided for it), which is one of the many reasons I wholeheartedly support a private forum, or at the very least a members-only section with its own forum in addition to this one. I hope to voice my opinion on this at the meeting next year.

I find all of this interesting because when I was 10-12 years old, I was happily enjoying activities that someone of that age would enjoy (and getting helpful exercise in the process) instead of sitting in front of the computer posting on a message board. Hell, I thought a message board was something mounted to the wall that you tacked notes to (and I had experience with computers), but to quote Bob Dylan, I guess "the times they are a-changin'".

At any rate, kids should be kids while they still can...

--Austin
 
Kirby with a double brush brushroll aka QuadraSweep brushroll and converted to micro filtration paper bags.
In my opinion, That setup will clean very well and leak practically no dust!
 
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Yeah, I am not sure just how effective the old Kirby's are, but the new Kirby's are very good! And they last longer! Well...enough of me arguing. It is just my opinion! :-)
 
Yes-the Dyson has HEPA filters but all of this is moot when you have to dump the dust cup-better do it outside or all of that fine dust will blow back into the air to settle on your home's surfaces to be picked up again!And the filter in a Dyson can be clogged-try picking up plaster dust,fireplace ashes,face powder,flour,fine sanding dust.these will clog about any vacuum-Dyson included-infact in the Dyson operators manual they warn not to use the machine to pick up large amounts of fines.A cyclone WILL NOT filter such materials.that is why the Dyson has the HEPA after filter.and yes I will take even a vintage Kirby over the Dyson--the Kirby simply has a more efficient airpath.No Convolutions for the air and dirt to travel thru like on a Dyson.And the Kirbys Direct air design is more efficient.The Dysons could be improved with larger more powerful brushrolls.I beleive the DC17 has done just that.Haven't tried one.It shows that a cleaner with a "smaller" motor may do better than one with the so called larger motor.I could show that a newer Kirby can outdo the Dsyon-Have both and tried them side by side-Kirby Sentria and Dyson "Ball" and Dc07.In a way Mr Dyson and Mr Oreck are similar-they heavily promote their products-and some other products out there can do better and these are not as heavily promoted.
 
Re: Definately:

I would certainly go with a Kirby, over a Dyson no questions asked and hands down. For my "Daily Driver" however, I'm still otherwise an Electrolux Guy and also I've got my Mother's Rainbow Rexair Purification System {as they called it during the Demostration} machine.

Kind Regards, Steve
Electrolux1960...
 
In my opinion...

I would have to say that a Kirby would out clean a dyson. In my daily driver mode though I am still a Hoover guy through and through. This is just my opinion. I like reading all of the opinions here. No matter what your age, it is great to read the opinions of others regarding the Kirby and dyson. It can really give me an overall picture and make me think about angles that I have not yet thought of. Thanks guys for posting your views. This is what makes this forum so unique!!!

--Tom
 
I want to share this story....

First of all my opinion on vacuums are that I love them all. Each of them have their own qualities that I like.

My best friends bought a brand new Dyson just a month or so ago. They were very excited and were very proud of their new machine and all of its features. The model of the Dyson I do not recall but it was the one for pets. I had not seen one or even played with one so I to thought it was cool and hoped they would be satisfied. Even Reggie (Compact9) got to use it at their home. I also had told my friends about the conversations that we had on our forum about the Dyson, the good and bad.

A few weeks ago a Kirby salesman was to come by their home to shampoo one room as we all know the tricks of the trade. So my friends really vacuumed the carpet well with their Dyson thinking they had done a great job.

My friends were astonished to find how badly the Dyson had cleaned their carpet.

My friends had just moved into a newer home with newer carpet but they had cleaned their carpets before they moved in with "saw-dust" type of cleaning stuff, that used an applicator machine. Well to their amazment when the Kirby demo pad brought out alot of the saw dust still in the carpet, they were very surprised. That is what sold them on machine and of course they were amazed of the "vacuuming the bed" deomonstration. So they bought it and are very happy with it, they also bought the shampooer.

Yes my friends both new of Kirbys and both of them liked them, but did not realize how well they cleaned, even though they both knew about my collection and of my knowledge of vacuums. I told them when one called me to tell me what they bought that I so proud of them and congratulated them on their new Kirby.

David
 
To Austin

Austin – your comments are fascinating to me in that they contain so much contradiction and irony themselves. First, you advocate for keeping “children” off the forum. It is interesting to me that you got your first exposure to the appliance and vacuum folks through AutomaticWasher.org. You even list it as your favorite Internet site. That is very interesting given the fact that it is a completely open and democratic forum. I am not sure how old you were when you first started to visit that site, but you were pretty young (being just 18 now.) Isn’t that where you met some nice people and learned a lot about washers, appliances (and dare I say it vacuums in Omaha in 2004?) Why would you want to deprive the same thing for young folks with an interest in vacuums? This should be a place where people come to learn and meet other people with the same interests. You did it at AW.org didn’t you?

Being a new member to the club, I should probably bring you up to speed with respect to why this website is open. We sent out a survey on many topics related to the club before the St. Louis convention. The resounding majority stated that they preferred an open forum. It engenders interest in the hobby and attracts new people. We are almost at 200 registered users with people from all over the world visiting. This was followed up by a vote in person at the last convention where it was voted to keep the forum open. There was some interest in having a members-only section, but no funds to get the code written. I am sure it will be discussed at the next convention, but the question will be “how to pay for it?” This club doesn’t have limitless resources, so if you are going to suggest a members-only section, be prepared to suggest how to pay for it.

Finally, before making sweeping generalizations regarding “unfairly” banning people from the forum, I would suggest that you get both sides of the story. It is clear to me that you are hearing one side, but never asked me or anyone I know about what the facts of the situation were. A sign of maturity is getting all the facts before you attack.
Fred
 
Thanks! I am glad you support youngsters at this website. I really like to learn about vacuums here. I hope it will stay this way!
 

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