Kirby Avalir Unveiling Video......
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kirbymodel2c
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Hi,
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I just came across this on Youtube.....</span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I just thought I share it in case any of you haven't seen it yet...</span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
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<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I just came across this on Youtube.....</span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I just thought I share it in case any of you haven't seen it yet...</span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
turbo500
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That is the single most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in my life. People are cheering like they're at some kind of rock concert. It's a vacuum cleaner launch, for gods sake!! And the re-written versions of "My Sharona"? Yikes. Talk about blowing your own trumpet.
sptyks
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It is a BIG DEAL...
...because it's Kirby's 100th Aniversary!!!
And it will prove to be the most powerful home cleaning sysem ever!
...because it's Kirby's 100th Aniversary!!!
And it will prove to be the most powerful home cleaning sysem ever!
turbo500
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A big deal to who? Members of this forum aside, I doubt anybody really cares. IT'S. A. VACUUM.
kirbymodel2c
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Lol
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">"It's a vacuum" BUT it's a very GOOD VACUUM!
It's a good thing when the sales force get excited about a new product.</span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
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<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">"It's a vacuum" BUT it's a very GOOD VACUUM!
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
sptyks
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Chris: don't you understand what's going on here? I doubt it.
This event was not open to the general public. Everyone in attendance was either the owner of a Kirby Distributorship or a door to door Kirby salesman. The purpose of this convention was a pep rally to introduce the audience to the new machine and get them pumped up to go out and sell sell sell this new Kirby door to door as this is the only way Kirbys are sold.
George: The new Avalir will go on sale as soon as the current stock of Sentria II's has been sold out. I'm guessing that sales of the Avalir will start sometime around mid January to early February. But that's only an educated guess. No one knows for sure.
This event was not open to the general public. Everyone in attendance was either the owner of a Kirby Distributorship or a door to door Kirby salesman. The purpose of this convention was a pep rally to introduce the audience to the new machine and get them pumped up to go out and sell sell sell this new Kirby door to door as this is the only way Kirbys are sold.
George: The new Avalir will go on sale as soon as the current stock of Sentria II's has been sold out. I'm guessing that sales of the Avalir will start sometime around mid January to early February. But that's only an educated guess. No one knows for sure.
turbo500
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I fully understand what's going on. I still think it's ridiculously overindulgent and overblown. I recently went to a conference with work regarding a new client - we were screaming like teenagers at a One Direction concert? No! There was a round of applaws, yes, but at the end of the day, it's just work.
kirbymodel2c
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I'm...
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I'm sure if SEBO did a Launch like this you would be singing a different tune!
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<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
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<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I'm sure if SEBO did a Launch like this you would be singing a different tune!
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
turbo500
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Nah, being totally honest James, I'd be the first person to tell them to get a life and the last person to be screaming and cheering about it. I'd be interested and excited about it, yes, but not to the extent that I'd be screaming like a girl at it 
kirbymodel2c
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I
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">believe you....
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<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">believe you....
sptyks
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James,
Chris just has a mean streak against Kirby.
I don't think there's anything we could say to change his attitude toward Kirby.
Chris just has a mean streak against Kirby.
I don't think there's anything we could say to change his attitude toward Kirby.
electromatik
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It might not just be a "mean streak" against Kirby. Some of us just don't care much for them. I've owned and used one for almost 16 years. I won't buy another. There is hardly anything "new" about it. Kirby vacuums are loud, heavy, cumbersome, and bulky. I see nothing truly "new" about it... Kirby is selling a machine of 1950's engineering. Until they can make it less bulky, loud, and hard to use I won't buy another. I value quieter machines and ease of use. I have no doubts about Kirby being able to clean well but they aren't the ONLY way to clean a home. I prefer canisters anyway...
But I hope Kirby fans love it.
But I hope Kirby fans love it.
kirbymodel2c
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Yep...
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I'm sure us Kirby fans love it. It's good Kirby have held on to it's quality, performance and reliability why still evolving. I'm looking forward to trying the NEW multi surface shampooer.</span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
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<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">I'm sure us Kirby fans love it. It's good Kirby have held on to it's quality, performance and reliability why still evolving. I'm looking forward to trying the NEW multi surface shampooer.</span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
sptyks
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Electromatik: Why do you say the new Kirby Avalir is using technology from the 1950's?
Nothing could be further from the truth!
Nothing could be further from the truth!
turbo500
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Noooooo no no no no. Absolutely not. The Kirby is a great vacuum and under the right circumstances I'd highly recommend them. However I am realistic about it and I know that they're not perfect. I wouldn't ever buy one new. They're just not worth the retail price. They're excessive in every way - excessively large, excessively loud, excessively heavy, excessively fiddly, time consuming etc etc. Their whole launch event from this clip looks completely excessive, unnecessary and overindulgent. They're outdated design and sales technique does them no favours.
So whilst I do think they're great performers, I don't for second think that it's without its flaws. With that in mind, no vacuum is. It's all about finding what works best for you and a Kirby would just not be practical in our house. No 1 vacuum is perfect and will suit everyone, it's all about finding what is best for you. This is why I would always encourage someone to try a vacuum before buying one, where possible. Especially a Kirby as, these days, they're so different to anything else on the market, to go from say a Dyson or a Miele or a Sebo to a Kirby is a hell of an adjustment.
So whilst I do think they're great performers, I don't for second think that it's without its flaws. With that in mind, no vacuum is. It's all about finding what works best for you and a Kirby would just not be practical in our house. No 1 vacuum is perfect and will suit everyone, it's all about finding what is best for you. This is why I would always encourage someone to try a vacuum before buying one, where possible. Especially a Kirby as, these days, they're so different to anything else on the market, to go from say a Dyson or a Miele or a Sebo to a Kirby is a hell of an adjustment.
Miss Mercy
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My thoughts on Kirby
I love Kirby and the way they look. I love the way they clean. I have onwed over 27 different models since 2005. I used to be able to carry two up a flight of stairs without flinching.
Fast forward to 2014. I had to have a hip replacement (November 2013) due to a cronic condition called psoriatic arthritis. I've suffered from it since I was 13. I no longer carry any newer than a Kirby Dual Sanitronic 80 by choice. Anything newer than that puts me in great pain. I think you see where this is going.
I love Kirby to death, but I have ever so gradually and sadly had to switch to Aerus (Electrolux). I feel like I have died and gone to Heaven by making this switch!
Kirby definitely needs to step up their game and redesign starting off with making them easier to handle. I've been selling and boxing up my Kirby collection this past year. It's a very sad end of an era for me.
The Kirbys that I'm parting with have already been spoken for.
Kirbys are too heavy and bulky. They do however deep clean carpets like no other. My dad said it best, "Kirby didn't need to add a transmission to make them easier to push. They should have taken weight off to make them easier to handle. That's going backwards." May he rest in peace.
The G Series are definitely over engineered and too heavy. They have been repeating, recoloring and repacking the same model for the past 25 years. Time for an upgrade!
Please note that this is simply my expressed opinion. Please don't hate me if you disagree. I still love Kirby very much, but I just cannot carry them like I once was able to.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
-Adam
I love Kirby and the way they look. I love the way they clean. I have onwed over 27 different models since 2005. I used to be able to carry two up a flight of stairs without flinching.
Fast forward to 2014. I had to have a hip replacement (November 2013) due to a cronic condition called psoriatic arthritis. I've suffered from it since I was 13. I no longer carry any newer than a Kirby Dual Sanitronic 80 by choice. Anything newer than that puts me in great pain. I think you see where this is going.
I love Kirby to death, but I have ever so gradually and sadly had to switch to Aerus (Electrolux). I feel like I have died and gone to Heaven by making this switch!
Kirby definitely needs to step up their game and redesign starting off with making them easier to handle. I've been selling and boxing up my Kirby collection this past year. It's a very sad end of an era for me.
The Kirbys that I'm parting with have already been spoken for.
Kirbys are too heavy and bulky. They do however deep clean carpets like no other. My dad said it best, "Kirby didn't need to add a transmission to make them easier to push. They should have taken weight off to make them easier to handle. That's going backwards." May he rest in peace.
The G Series are definitely over engineered and too heavy. They have been repeating, recoloring and repacking the same model for the past 25 years. Time for an upgrade!
Please note that this is simply my expressed opinion. Please don't hate me if you disagree. I still love Kirby very much, but I just cannot carry them like I once was able to.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
-Adam
kirbymodel2c
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I
disagree with you Chris that you think there great and I can't imagine you for a moment recommending them.
Particularly when you concentrate on what you see as it's negative qualities.
I've told you in the past that I don't think there <a name="start_27689.309606"></a>excessively loud,large,expensive etc....for various reasons. The best part with the demo is people get to try before they buy and see how it handles...again in their home. Much better than some TV ad or shopping channel. Yes I know your going to say hard sale tactics etc but that is not the bulk of the time.
Beside the point of me posting the link to this video was for "US" people who like Kirby to get a better view of the up coming model.
I've seen various threads on here when something new is coming out that I don't particularly like the look of or see various "issues"with it and don't feel the need to start picking at it.
I just click and move on......
James
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disagree with you Chris that you think there great and I can't imagine you for a moment recommending them.
I've told you in the past that I don't think there <a name="start_27689.309606"></a>excessively loud,large,expensive etc....for various reasons. The best part with the demo is people get to try before they buy and see how it handles...again in their home. Much better than some TV ad or shopping channel. Yes I know your going to say hard sale tactics etc but that is not the bulk of the time.
Beside the point of me posting the link to this video was for "US" people who like Kirby to get a better view of the up coming model.
I've seen various threads on here when something new is coming out that I don't particularly like the look of or see various "issues"with it and don't feel the need to start picking at it.
I just click and move on......
James
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mark40511
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Love Kirby
and would totally own one of these......Unlike most people, I love both Rainbow and Kirby, but I like Rainbow better.
This was fun to watch, but I've never seen Rainbow do anything like this. Maybe they do and I just haven't seen it.
and would totally own one of these......Unlike most people, I love both Rainbow and Kirby, but I like Rainbow better.
This was fun to watch, but I've never seen Rainbow do anything like this. Maybe they do and I just haven't seen it.
turbo500
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On the contrary, James, I'd sooner have a Kirby than anything bagless. It may seem I'm focusing on the negative, but that's only because a handful of people seem blind to the flaws of the cleaner.
Seems I need to say nothing about the sales tactics. It's well documented.
And as far as I'm aware, there is no US/UK specification on this forum? Last I knew, it was a free for all open discussion and I'm equally as entitled to voice my criticsm of a Kirby as you are to be so insistent that it's the best, most perfect thing ever invented.
Seems I need to say nothing about the sales tactics. It's well documented.
And as far as I'm aware, there is no US/UK specification on this forum? Last I knew, it was a free for all open discussion and I'm equally as entitled to voice my criticsm of a Kirby as you are to be so insistent that it's the best, most perfect thing ever invented.
kirbymodel2c
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lol
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">You can say what you like....I was just pointing out what my aim was of me posting this thread.</span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">Is seem to remember you having a few comments for members who often pointed out SEBO opinions you disagreed with!
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<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
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<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">You can say what you like....I was just pointing out what my aim was of me posting this thread.</span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">Is seem to remember you having a few comments for members who often pointed out SEBO opinions you disagreed with!
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;"> </span>
<span style="font-family: book antiqua,palatino;">James
turbo500
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That's probably true, although I don't for a minute think that the Sebo is perfect. Of course it has it flaws! The topple over when using the short hose, the weak cable connection on the handle, the auto height adjustment can be temperamental (not a problem I've had on either of ours, but others have reported it here). But whilst it's not perfect, I've found it ticks other boxes that work for me, tipping the scales in its favour. There's pro's and con's to every single vacuum on sale.
I honestly believe that the Kirby is unrivalled for carpet cleaning, but severely lacking in terms of weight, easy of use, noise and price. I also noticed that the Sentria 2 tools felt very cheap and basic. Not what I'd expect from something I invested over £1000 in.
Now, the D80 I got from Paul is a fab vacuum. It really does incorporate all the good things about a Kirby into a smaller, lighter machine. But again, you're stuck with faffy tools. Having to cart around a huge chunk of metal AND a tool caddy just to vacuum up is not something I ever fancy doing.
It's 2014. The "housewife" role doesn't exist anymore and people don't have the same amount of time they used to for housework. The market now calls for cleaners that are good but quick. You can argue the toss all you want, but there's no denying that vacuuming a house with a Kirby takes a lot longer than most, if not all, other uprights. People these days want their house cleaned quickly so they can get on with other things - better things! Kirby need to get with it.
I honestly believe that the Kirby is unrivalled for carpet cleaning, but severely lacking in terms of weight, easy of use, noise and price. I also noticed that the Sentria 2 tools felt very cheap and basic. Not what I'd expect from something I invested over £1000 in.
Now, the D80 I got from Paul is a fab vacuum. It really does incorporate all the good things about a Kirby into a smaller, lighter machine. But again, you're stuck with faffy tools. Having to cart around a huge chunk of metal AND a tool caddy just to vacuum up is not something I ever fancy doing.
It's 2014. The "housewife" role doesn't exist anymore and people don't have the same amount of time they used to for housework. The market now calls for cleaners that are good but quick. You can argue the toss all you want, but there's no denying that vacuuming a house with a Kirby takes a lot longer than most, if not all, other uprights. People these days want their house cleaned quickly so they can get on with other things - better things! Kirby need to get with it.
bikerray
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I know I can hardly wait just to see all the new problems (fan melt downs, switch problems, handles breaking).
sebo_fan
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Ive seen worse product launches - though it begs the question in relation to why they used "we will rock you," when changing the verses to reflect the Kirby and yet surely the chorus should have been "we love, we love Kirby!" Or is too obvious?
I like the presentation video and obviously the versatility that Kirby have added. Sadly for my tastes, Kirby uprights in a domestic home are just too big - same with the Miele S7. I've used Kirby uprights in schools and they're brilliant for a large open area, but in an average UK home, there's a reasoon to why owners hang onto their old Hoover Juniors - far smaller, still very capable, large dust capacity and cost effective.
I like the presentation video and obviously the versatility that Kirby have added. Sadly for my tastes, Kirby uprights in a domestic home are just too big - same with the Miele S7. I've used Kirby uprights in schools and they're brilliant for a large open area, but in an average UK home, there's a reasoon to why owners hang onto their old Hoover Juniors - far smaller, still very capable, large dust capacity and cost effective.
cb123
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James, I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for such an informative and lovely video!
Such beauty and performance, no wonder Kirby is the very best at everything...it just shows in all it does! Even when Kirby introduces a new cleaner, they go the extra mile which causes lower class companies to reel jealously. For they are desirous of such proven technology, perfected in the long crucible of time. I think the foremost problem primarily is: Kirby will always be looked upon as number one, and then everything else will be that, that other vacuum cleaner over there in that dark, long and forgotten corner!
