Kirby Avalir 2?

[fairfax88]

OK for EVERYONE,


I just bought the new Blue Kirby,and it DOES NOT Have carbon brushes any longer,It is just like the the E2-Black Rainbow!

~David

 

[KirbyCollector01]

FairFax88

So you’re saying it’s now Brushless?

If so, wow...
quite honestly. I never thought Kirby would go brushless.
I’m very interested to see how it sounds and performs.

 

[KirbyCollector01]

FairFax88

Could you maybe post a video of it? Along with a picture of the rating stamp.
That’d be greatly appreciated.

 

[kirbysthebest]

Uh-oh

If the new Avilar2 is brushless the whole EU rating, emission, motor filter argument went moot.

 

[juju93]

so there is changes to the kirby?

Im confused on what is new with this unit? Are you saying that whats new is something internal (something we can't see) or is it something that we can physically see? From seeing a few youtube videos nothing seems to be differenet in terms of sound, functions, ect. Does anyone know if KIRBY did (or is doing) a launch video for the new AVALIR2, kind of like what they did with the Sentria/Sentria II and AVALIR ?

 

[vacfan1982]

Really a brushless motor from Kirby? I will be flabagasted if they have done something so radical

 

[kirbysthebest]

With nothing to confirm this other than the statement by another poster, I can only state that Kirby is a slow adopter of new fangled technology, until they can prove that it has durability.

They didn't adopt a disposable bag system, until they had a bag system that could function reliably with the air flow without radically compromising the performance.

Kirby did not introduce a power drive (tech drive) until they had technology that they were sure would survive the test of time.

If they are adopting a brushless motor, it will only be after extensive testing to insure the motor meets their standards of Quality, Reliability, and Performance. By adding a brushless motor they will be adding electronics that they have never used before, thus they have testing to prove durability.

It would be a big move for Kirby, I will believe it when I see it, but as I stated before. The worry of carbon dust would be moot, if this were the case.

 

[vacfan1982]

If they add a brushless motor I think that would be a very good improvement.

If they could also add a 12" nozzle for people in smaller homes I would buy one and I think a lot more people would

 

[sptyks]

A Brushless motor in a Kirby?


 


I will believe it when I see it!


 


 

 

[juju93]

more pics

Can someone post some more pics and or some videos of the new avalir2.

thanks

 

[vacuumdevil]

G11 Kirby might be like Bigfoot.

Sorry to be so skeptical but I doubt they have a brushless motor.
When I look on a wholesale parts catalog I don't see anything past G10 I don't see really any evidence of an avalir 2 being in production on the Kirby side. I Google image search doesn't pull up anything for "G11" or" avalir 2"
Did someone Photoshop that stuff?

 

[juju93]

G10E

All kirby models from Sentria-current are known as G10E, even the avalir is known as a G10. To me it makes since that it would be known as such since all that really change is cosmetics, nothing really internal to make it go from G10E >> G11E or ect. So far that I know of, since this is just a color (more like trim change), the model number is most likely G10E. One way to find out is on the bottom side of the box that you use to store the machine and attachments, it should say the model name and then number. ex AVALIR G10E.

 

[mariotron]

@sptkys

I know a lot of people are saying to redesign or modernize the Kirby but if it still out performs a lot of modern machine is it still outdated? I believe Kirby has stated they won't redesign it until they found something to out preform the current model. I get there's a convince issue with the tools and brush roll shut off but preformance wise it's aged really well.

One more thing... what you think if it IS actually brushless?

 

[honestjoe68]

I have an idea that Kirby could use to widen there customer base and STILL keep us loyal Kirby G10 fans happy too.

Kirby should design a second vacuum in a totally new design AND keep the improvements and updates coming on the current G10. Maybe make a lighter weight vacuum and design a Kirby with on board tools and maybe a two motor design to be able to turn the brushroll off with a switch.

Just a thought, but as many companies do.. diversify and reach a much wider customer base. I don’t think anyone would think less of Kirby for doing this and I really think it would open up a vast amount of possibilities for a well built, lighter weight and more modern “Kirby”.

Just a thought and I mean NO disrespect to the Kirby company. I LOVE my Kirby and the Kirby’s I’ve owned over the years.. I just would love to see what amazing things the Kirby design team could come up with if they didn’t have to stay with the same G10 design.

Thanks and PLEASE I don’t want to make anyone mad or start arguments... I like everyone here at vacuumland and I’m a collector that loves and respects ALL manufacturers and types of vacuums.

Patrick

 

[vacfan1982]

I agree Patrick but I doubt it will ever happen Kirby are not that kind of company.

Do they actually have an R&D department? I wouldn't have thought they needed one.

 

[sptyks]

@mariotron

there are a couple of reasons why I don't think Kirby will be using a brushless motor anytime soon.


 


First brushless motors require a circuit card to function. circuit cards in vacuum cleaners are often the most probable cause of failure. Kirby is all about reliability so I don't think they will go this route anytime soon.


 


Second brushless motors are quite a bit more expensive to produce then the current Universal type motor that Kirby has been using since its Inception in the early 1900s. I'm sure there are other reasons as well but these two points are the ones that come to mind at this point in time.

 

[vacfan1982]

Isn't the Rainbow brushless motor very reliable?

 

[evilvacuumman]

Vacfan1982
The motor itself I think is very reliable but I have heard that the electronic board that controls the speed of it can fail sometimes. That is board itself is a $400 part. This is what I heard. I have a e2 gold and had no problem with it.

 

[vacfan1982]

Oh if that is true about the board failing then maybe Kirby would be better not introducing a brushless motor.

 

[vacfan1982]

$400 dollars for a circuit board? Wow that sounds a lot!