Hyla has arrived

[Sanifan]

Thanks for posting the great pictures, William. Both the Rainbow and Hyla GST look like quality units.

I'll have to look at my NST power nozzle, but I seem to recall that it has a center separator and that the brushroll is made of wood. They look similar otherwise, but the NST power nozzle is a dark green and not black. I have a feeling Hyla went with two different Weasel Werks power nozzles between the NST and GST.

 

[kirbyvertibles]

No it's the same power nozzle between the NST and the new one but the early NST used a different power nozzle. They had a little wessel werk nozzle with a tiny brush roll. The newer black Fairfax used the same whimpy power nozzle.

p.s. It's good they changed the water pan latches.

 

[kenmorekid]

Air clean mode

I was wondering if the Hyla moves air like the rainbow does in low/air clean mode? Since you have used both do you think one works better than the other? Thanks!

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla has arrived

Mike,
I can tell you the "low" air clean on the Rainbow is almost silent and since it has the brush less motor that is designed to run longer periods. What you hear with the RAINBOW is the water in the basin.
I think the Hyla's low speed is running at a much higher speed and you are to run it a shorter time.
I have enjoyed using both machines. I seem to prefer using the Rainbow in my house just because you only have one hose that is much longer ,one set of wands and new power nozzle works better on the types of rugs and carpets in my house.
The Rainbow is quieter and feels like it has more suction at the hose end but that is just my thoughts.
I have to say I was actually surprised at how much I like the Hyla. So far it seems to be built pretty good. My new Rainbow has been faultless and the new model has so many improvments over my old SE. As far as cleaning improvments, I would have to say the new power nozzle is the most important change.

 

[Sanifan]

Yes, the NST pn is the same as with the GST. No rug guard, wide plastic brushroll.

Is the GST black? The NST is a nice dark green.

 

[mark40511]

Rob-

So the New GST isn't a brushless motor? I figured the very latest model of Hyla by now would be brushless.

I think it's cool how the "Geyser" technology shoots water into the separator to keep it clean - but you wonder how it does it since that water isn't going to be clean the more you vacuum. Here is a video Intro I found on the GST. All those extras at the end are mind blowing. I'm not sure what the PN and rollers are for at the 2:55 mark of the video.

So cool looking to see all of that turbulent water action. I like the way the bucket is shaped but I'll bet an entire gallon of water does ADD the weight to the machine.

About the short hose - didn't rainbow add length to its hose on the latest model? So wouldn't the Rainbow's previous to the Oynx have the same length electric hose?

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla has arrived

The new GST is black. Maybe to be like the new Rainbow. I noticed Filter Queen has changed to black too.

Mark,
The electric hose on the Hyla seems shorter than even the old electric hose on my SE Rainbow but part may be to the hose protectors at each end of the Hyla hose.

 

[williamr1248]

New Hyla has arrived

Mark,
I don't know anything about the motor in the new Hyla. I asuume it is not a brush less motor based on both the sound of the Hyla motor and the fact that no where in the instruction book or the demo was anything said about continuous use for air cleaning. The air cleaning mode is much faster motor speed than the Rainbow.
The Hyla motor is very smooth sounding.

 

[eurekaprince]

That Rainbow power nozzle looks so cool! Love to see something really innovative in the design of an attachment - so much effort goes into the design of the main vac units, when in truth, cleaning effectiveness can be greatly improved by creatively thinking "outside the box" when designing attachments (I know that is one thing Dyson does well). Even the new Kenmore canisters are trying some new takes on the bare floor brush. And Filter Queen and Shark are now offering bare floor tools that take Swiffer dusting clothes! Brilliant!

The idea of adding "floor polisher" vertical brushes on the corners of a power nozzle is brilliant. Instead of trying to get the suction over to the edges of the nozzle, the designers provided a way to move the dirt over to the suction area. Would be interesting to see if this actually works well in reality. Would love to see a video of a test of this Rainbow power nozzle against one of their older versions - using the same vacuum to keep all other factors identical....

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla has arrived

Brain,
Take a look at the bottom of the nozzle. It concentrates the suction and the end brushes work well very close to chair and table legs and close to the wall.
Notice the air channels on the front of the base plate and the ends. It really grabs the dirt instead of just plowing things in front of the machine. Some other things I have noticed after almost 1 year of daily use:
(1) the balance is such that the power nozzle and wand do not fall over.
(2) the 9 led lights put out a very bright light.
(3) the brush does not have to be cleaned of threads and string as many brushes
(4) notice the narrow width between the brush and air channels which help create
strong air flow.
(5) pulls up the nap very nice but at the same time has created no damage to any
of my rugs or carpets.
(6) belt has lasted almost a year without problems
(7) air stream has not clogged one time in years use
(8) wrap around guard and rubber covered wheels to protect polished floors
(9) pushes very easy on thick carpets
(10)quiet motor

 

[eurekaprince]

Rob - good to hear that this innovative pn design actually does the job well!

I guess my only concern is the large gap in the centre - but I guess that path is cleaned when you move over the nozzle on a subsequent stroke.....

 

[williamr1248]

Hyla has arrived

Brian,
The space in the middle does not show when you use the return stroke. I guess we had that same type of gap on a lot of Hoovers and Eurekas for years too. Before I used it I was expecting to see "holiday areas" on the ends and middle but not so in actual use. I would guess the design of the air channels lets the air flow accross the surface. I am sure they did a lot of testing before making all the changes.
I have enjoyed many of the new Dyson designs too.