Hoover Windtunnel dirt cup problems

[kirbyloverdan]

Dustin

No manufacture will cover abuse and that's considered abuse . I have several bag less Hoovers that my great friend John Gregory of Sweeper Central gifted me I push the release and out falls the dirt NEVER a problem of anything getting stuck inside and I NEVER bang the container either .

Dan

 

[sebo_fan]

It doesn't matter where a vacuum cleaner is made - if it has a bottom trapdoor release with a weak hinge, then common sense would tell you not to bang the bin to dislodge the dirt. If the dirt gets stuck then use the crevice tool to push the dirt out or use your fingers.

It is never a clean business with a bagless vacuum cleaner. Many user manuals also suggest using the on board dusting brush to clean the filter shroud too.

 

[dustin]

The machine *I* had an issue emptying was a Hoover Fusion, which had basically the same bin as the one above -however- it never broke. The problem was that dog hair, strings, fuzz, etc. would get caught above the lower cyclone "deflector" and would either have to be jarred loose, or the entire cyclone assemby would need to removed from the top. I never had an issue with the hinge. I never really cared for the vacuum, it had terrible filtration, and smelled, but it was given to me so I used it at my church for about a year until it was stolen. I think it is a design flaw to have -that- specific part made out of plastic so thin. Surprised it didn't break sooner. That wouldn't have happened on a Kirby :}

 

[niclonnic]

Well, guys...

Sptyks, it depends on if my dad looks at vacuums on Amazon.com. Then, when the Amazon Vine newsletter comes up, he might get another free vacuum to try out and review. I have never had a motor burn out on any vacuum I've owned. I found a replacement dirt cup online at Hoover.com. It costs $37.40; however, it's sold out. Screw it!

Dysonman1, to clarify, the way the dirt cup is designed, there's a "lip" at the bottom of the inner cyclone assembly that traps dirt and won't let it fall out immediately, so I HAD to bang my hand on the side to get all the dirt out. My alternate method of emptying is this: twist the cyclone assembly counterclockwise and remove it from the dirt cup. Dump the dirt cup the traditional way into the trash can. Put the cyclone assembly back in and twist clockwise to lock it. And yes, I do rinse the pre-motor filter every two months. It collects hair and stuff that the dual-cyclonic action can't separate.

Dan, I have also banged the canister on my Dyson DC07, and the bottom flap has never broken. With the Dyson, everything falls out when I empty it. You probably don't have any pets in your home. I have 3 dogs and a cat, and that's why their hair ALWAYS gets stuck. My vacuum always collects dust on the outside of the dirt cup when I empty it.

Sebo_fan, I could've also pulled out the dirt by hand, but that's a messy job. With my Dyson, I would use the on-board brush tool to clean the shroud when necessary.

Below is a picture of the dirt cup, with the bottom flap open. It's kind of hard to see, but there is a lip that traps dirt.

 

[niclonnic]

Another pic

A better picture of the cyclone assembly, removed from the dirt cup. You can see how the bottom of the assembly has a skirt shape to prevent dirt from falling out.

 

[sebo_fan]

niclonnic - "I could've also pulled out the dirt by hand, but that's a messy job. With my Dyson, I would use the on-board brush tool to clean the shroud when necessary..."

Well I have to pull dirt off my Hoover cordless dust buster hand held on occasion- sadly its a joy of ALL bagless cyclonic vacs, whether they are compact or full size. It is reality over the fantasy of brands who use HEPA as a smoke screen.

My Hoover Slalom (NLOS European upright) suffers from the same problem - dust gets stuck right at the top of the shroud filter and there's a poor hinge on the bottom release at the back that seldom opens properly. There's an inner ring that often falls out covered in dust too that has to be cleaned off. This is really where a dust bag makes a lot more sense.

 

[niclonnic]

Yeah

I have to bang out the filters on my hand vacs (Black & Decker Platinum Dust Buster and Bissell Auto-Mate corded hand vac) every now and then. I have owned two filter-based bagless vacuums (Dirt Devil and Bissell) and my parents have had to bang out and shake the filters on those machines (I was too young to use a vacuum back then). Luckily, they did it outside. I agree with you about this "joy."

With my Windtunnel, I have a similar issue: Dust and hair gets stuck in the bottom of the inner cyclone (the red cone), and has to be pulled out by hand. You can kind of see it in the two pictures above. However, I just have to wash my hands afterward. I'm not a fan of bagged vacuums.

 

[sebo_fan]

Why are you not a fan of bagged vacuums? Surely that would eliminate touching the dust and having to deal with messy filters?

 

[super-sweeper]

Hold the Rotary phone!

Did I just see someone call a DYSON "QUALITY"? Who's paying you to tell us THAT information?! My DC07 looks like it's fallen off a plane-Every plastic bit that could possibly break is broken-And I didn't vacuum the house with it more than 5 times! Maybe 2.


Hose release, suction tube thingy, the bin and it's components, carry handle, the list goes on! The FANTOM on the other hand hasn't broken a BIT in 20 years of household service! Fantom proves plastic isn't always cheap, but Dyson sets the bar for how cheap plastic goes! Have you seen the newer Dyson uprights (I wouldn't care to see them if Dyson didn't flood the air-ways with all his plastic status symbol propaganda!)-They BEND from the force of the user, Bend! What vacuum on earth should BEND itself under normal use!?

 

[madabouthoovers]

A Dyson is no better quality than the average TTI machine - they are both mass produced in the Far East, but Dyson has the cheek to think his machines are worth 3 times the value of  the average TTI machine. TTI might produce budget machines, but they do have the decency to charge budget prices.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Does that Windtunnel have the changeover valve like on my Vax Mach 9 pictured below - they look very similar styled machines. (Yes, I know, its a Dyson - even I own a few of them)

 

[sptyks]

I just don't understand...

why anyone would prefer a messy dirty bagless vacuum over a nice clean bagged machine. You only need to replace the bag once every few months and there's absolutely no mess or dirty hands when you do replace the bag. Most bags are only $2.00-$3.00 each so cost shouldn't be an issue. Again - I just don't get it!


 


 


 


 


 


 

 

[madabouthoovers]

Its the power of Dyson's clever marketing - he has had a very powerful influence on people's opinions about bagged vacs. You could say that he has "brainwashed" them like a clever hypnotist.

 

[tase]

Even if you're cheap you can buy the brown paper bags for a Kirby for $1.12 a bag! The cloth HEPA bags are a lot more expensive though.


 


Also, my Kenmore PowerMate bags were $3 a piece and the vacuum cleans 10 times better than my Dyson DC07...

 

[madabouthoovers]

The problem is that people don't realise that bagless vacs will cost them more in filters than a bagged vac would, and that bags don't clog now like the old single layer paper bags that Dyson refers to when he goes on about bags losing suction. Dyson is a very clever businessman, and will tell you the earth was square if it made him a profit!

 

[super-sweeper]

Square Earths,

People try to save $$$$$ (Or ££££££, Mind you Mr.AlexHoovers!) in the modern "El-Cheapo" economy. I agree about Dyson's brain-washing, HOOVER got it right when he told Mr.Dyson square in the face, "Bags have always been best, Bags will always be best!". Now if only people would see the faults in Dyson's words, and buy back into Bags! But that's in a perfect would, and in a perfect world, HOOVERS are metal and everyone drives a Bel-Air!

 

[madabouthoovers]

57 Chevy...

Specially for you Super_sweeper, and this one was customised here in the UK!

 

[suckolux]

I watched that Chevy be done over a while back on Wheeler Dealer.

 

[super-sweeper]

Thanks!

That Bel-Air is lovely-My only complaint is the wheels they put on the thing! Chrome Hubcaps would be lovely. I cringe when I see the youth of today (And i'm still a youth!) restore a Beautiful old car, And then drop gigantic, shining tires and a sub-woofer into it. I find it disrespectful to the car itself! 


 


I attempted uploading a Bel-Air in turquoise, Only since the new multiple picture uploading feature was installed, I find I cannot upload any!

 

[loganvac]

Anyway...

Why use TTI Hoover or a Dyson? We all know they are crappy cheaply built plastic vacs, ( just stating the obvious). Do you have the option of buying a good used vacuum like a Kirby or a Rainbow? Or if you want to spend a larger amount of money on a vacuum that will last you many years, I suggest a good well built American brand of vacuum, Riccar.