The Fault Of The TTi Hoover Products

[fromadifferentplanet1996]

While it is true that Hoover is doing well under TTi's ownership, not all of their products are perfect due to warranty issues and all that.

MAKE HOOVER GREAT AGAIN my ass!

 

[panasonicvac]

Unfortunately we live in a world now where companies have to cut cost, be competitive, and give what consumers want. I can't blame them when they had to discontinue the classics like the Guardsman and Conquest.

 

[cheesewonton]

I recently bought a Hushtone upright, CH54113, and have been nothing but impressed by it. I am not much for upright vacuums. I generally prefer power nozzle canisters but the Hushtone does almost everything I need a vacuum to do and does it pretty well without making me bust a sweat. It's certainly a better vacuum than my Caddy ( Crappy ) Vac or my Breathe Easy U5252-900 ( I think that's the model ). Thick steel handle with chunky cord wraps that aren't going to break. Wooden brush roll like an old Windtunnel. Lifetime belt. 5.7 inch / 145 mm motor from Domel. Quality stuff.

 

[vacerator]

Companies do not have to"cut" costs. They choose to for the highest margin for shareholders and top brass. They enjoy the lowest labor cost since the 1980's.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Well, if you want a truly great vacuum that is even better than a Sebo for a reasonable cost, you need crowdfunding, a factory, workers, design skills and some time.

 

[cheesewonton]

Well, if you want a truly great vacuum that is even better than a Sebo for a reasonable cost, you need crowdfunding, a factory, workers, design skills and some time.

Or just buy a Lindhaus upright ................

Honestly the Hoover Hushtone has 90% of the functionality of our Windsor Sensor S12 ( Sebo G1 with a three wire cord ) for half the price and the Hushtone has vastly better filtration than the Windsor / Sebo thing. Oh yes, the Hoover cleans hard floors and does a good job. Not so with the Windsor / Sebo thing. Where the Hushtone comes up short are a lack of a wand extension and the attachments are not as nice as those from Sebo.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Good points!

 

[royalfan103]

Probably my only gripe about TTi Hoovers is that their transmissions don't last. Meanwhile the transmissions in my Maytag Hoovers sound just fine.

 

[centralsweeper63]

That is/was one point where they majorly cut cost. Probably went from metal gears to plastic.

 

[royalfan103]

That is/was one point where they majorly cut cost. Probably went from metal gears to plastic.

When I opened the transmission of my Anniversary up, the gears were plastic. I'm specifically talking about the bearings.

 

[centralsweeper63]

Ah, I see. They are likely standard and replaceable.

 

[amtraksebo1997]

I totally agree.

TTI may have saved the company from going under, but as the saying goes: "you can either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". Hoover obviously chose the latter, and now 90% of their range is low-quality bagless slop that does not resemble anything close to the stuff Hoover produced back in the day. Sure, there are a few gems hidden in the rough, mainly in the commercial range, but that's the thing. Most consumers aren't buying commercial machines. They're buying what they can afford and what's available from their local retail stores. Now, a certain SOMEBODY will like to say "well that's just a you problem", and that somebody has probably no idea what living middle class is like. They know who they are. So no, it's BS to blame the consumer for not having the money to buy higher-end machines from a vacuum store, and not be aware of the numerous cons of bagless vacuums when buying a machine.

Also, Maytag didn't smother Hoover like lots of people will say. Were they as well-built and well-performing as, say, a Concept One or Convertible? Maybe not, but they were still good machines, and certainly better than the crap TTI is putting out today. I'd say it started to go downhill for Maytag and Hoover with the failures of the Windtunnel Dual Vs, Windtunnel 2s, Z series machines, and other blunders.

 

[centralsweeper63]

It was when they were experimenting that it went wrong.

 

[cheesewonton]

I totally agree.

TTI may have saved the company from going under, but as the saying goes: "you can either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain". Hoover obviously chose the latter, and now 90% of their range is low-quality bagless slop that does not resemble anything close to the stuff Hoover produced back in the day. Sure, there are a few gems hidden in the rough, mainly in the commercial range, but that's the thing. Most consumers aren't buying commercial machines. They're buying what they can afford and what's available from their local retail stores. Now, a certain SOMEBODY will like to say "well that's just a you problem", and that somebody has probably no idea what living middle class is like. They know who they are. So no, it's BS to blame the consumer for not having the money to buy higher-end machines from a vacuum store, and not be aware of the numerous cons of bagless vacuums when buying a machine.

Also, Maytag didn't smother Hoover like lots of people will say. Were they as well-built and well-performing as, say, a Concept One or Convertible? Maybe not, but they were still good machines, and certainly better than the crap TTI is putting out today. I'd say it started to go downhill for Maytag and Hoover with the failures of the Windtunnel Dual Vs, Windtunnel 2s, Z series machines, and other blunders.

The question thou is would the modern customer buy something like a Decade of even a Windtunnel? We like to think people would but whenever I visit my favorite vacuum shop and talk to the owner he laments that all anyone wants to buy is a cheap bagless stick vac. You show them a nice Cirrus or Sebo upright, both of which he sells, or a Sanitaire soft bag upright and their eyes roll back in their heads. Not what people want.

 

[centralsweeper63]

In NZ, at vacuum shops, about 1/4 to 1/2 of all sales are Sebo. This is at About Clean/Vacdirect stores.