sebo_fan
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Ty super-sweeper, do you mean the latest one about the ball that is showing or the "It creaks as it leaks as it sweeps" ?
Hoover Windtunnel dirt cup issue - Hoover's response
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super-sweeper
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The both of them!
jaker15
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Quality
I'm only 16, and I know of several machines that will last far longer than 5 years. Some of the best-performing vacuums in my collection are 60 years old or older! When I was younger, I used to get all kinds of neat machines from the local auction. I had a Dirt Devil Platinum Force, an Oreck XL, a Fantom Thunder, and a couple others that I can't remember right now. They all worked pretty well, I'm still kicking myself for not holding onto that Platinum Force and finding a belt for it! (The one on it was very worn) I could not find a replacement for it anywhere, but now I have found the exact belt I needed back then at several different vacuum shops! Despite not having a working brush roll, that Dirt Devil was a beast. It was the bagless model, and had excellent suction and airflow, and it was very quiet, too.
Of course, back then when I was just starting to get into vacuums, I thought that any machine was the best of the best, as long as it worked for me and had no troubles. Now that I am a collector, and have used various brands and models, I think I have a pretty good idea of what is a quality machine, and what is not. Dyson? A high-quality vacuum? HA!!!! I think not! They are over-priced pieces of Chinese plastic. They do a better job of cleaning out your wallet than they do of cleaning your house. The best-performing vacuum cleaner that I currently own has to be my 1988 Kirby Heritage II-Legend. It has incredible airflow, and cleans carpets like no other. Most Kirbys are pretty noisy, but the Legend is different. It's very quiet, especially for a Kirby.
My point is, if you haven't used a good old vintage vacuum cleaner before, and think that Dyson is the best, you'd better try a classic machine before you make your decision.
I'm only 16, and I know of several machines that will last far longer than 5 years. Some of the best-performing vacuums in my collection are 60 years old or older! When I was younger, I used to get all kinds of neat machines from the local auction. I had a Dirt Devil Platinum Force, an Oreck XL, a Fantom Thunder, and a couple others that I can't remember right now. They all worked pretty well, I'm still kicking myself for not holding onto that Platinum Force and finding a belt for it! (The one on it was very worn) I could not find a replacement for it anywhere, but now I have found the exact belt I needed back then at several different vacuum shops! Despite not having a working brush roll, that Dirt Devil was a beast. It was the bagless model, and had excellent suction and airflow, and it was very quiet, too.
Of course, back then when I was just starting to get into vacuums, I thought that any machine was the best of the best, as long as it worked for me and had no troubles. Now that I am a collector, and have used various brands and models, I think I have a pretty good idea of what is a quality machine, and what is not. Dyson? A high-quality vacuum? HA!!!! I think not! They are over-priced pieces of Chinese plastic. They do a better job of cleaning out your wallet than they do of cleaning your house. The best-performing vacuum cleaner that I currently own has to be my 1988 Kirby Heritage II-Legend. It has incredible airflow, and cleans carpets like no other. Most Kirbys are pretty noisy, but the Legend is different. It's very quiet, especially for a Kirby.
My point is, if you haven't used a good old vintage vacuum cleaner before, and think that Dyson is the best, you'd better try a classic machine before you make your decision.
sebo_fan
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Yes but with all due respect, is Average Joe the same as a collector when it comes to general usage - it seems to be that most members on this forum treat their vacuums with respect, or I hope they do.
I bet there aren't many of us who would say we vacuum once every two weeks, or sometimes vacuum ONCE or TWICE a month...?
I bet there aren't many of us who would say we vacuum once every two weeks, or sometimes vacuum ONCE or TWICE a month...?
Dysons radial root is the best cyclone technology ever made it barely lets any dust and dirt go through I had my DC 41 for one year and I never clean the filter and it stayed spotless. And now I think we should get the thread back on track I feel people are getting very pushy it what they believe if you like old vacuum cleaners that's fine don't try and push on other but if you like them that's fine. me and other people like Dyson And want a dyson and think they are great machines that you might not think so that's fine you're entitled to your own opinion don't keep on telling us that we need an old-fashioned metal one or A Kirby we just don't want a old vacuum cleaner we like our plastic vacs I am not here offending anyone I just think everyone should keep their own opinions to themselves if you don't like Dysons that fine but I love my dyson it does a great job and it's very tough for a plastic vac if you might not think so that's fine you like your vacuum cleaner you like it its what you enjoy using it if there's a thread about Dysons please stay away from them if you don't like them. PS I have many many metal vacuum cleaners but I do prefer modern ones
sebo_fan
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Well if you are not offending any one, your avatar profile pic says otherwise, which is why I have a Dyson one on mine. Two can play that game.
sebo_fan
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Yes but what you and I think may not be offensive may be offensive to others.
In the same way that whilst this thread concentrates on a problem with a Hoover vacuum cleaner that the original member found fault with, has now opened up a lot of other threads and ideas. It happens in every thread on every forum - if everyone was to stick to the subject at hand, that issue would have closed up on here a very long time ago.
In the same way that whilst this thread concentrates on a problem with a Hoover vacuum cleaner that the original member found fault with, has now opened up a lot of other threads and ideas. It happens in every thread on every forum - if everyone was to stick to the subject at hand, that issue would have closed up on here a very long time ago.
fantomfan
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Here is an Interesting Vacuum
It is my Hoover Elite Cyclonic. I think this was one of hoover's first serious attempts at a multi-cyclonic vacuum that ACTUALLY separates dust effectively. I wanted a canister for versatility. This was before I had a ton of vacuums to choose from. I bought it from target for $215 in September 2010. I can't say that $215 was the best value for this, but I think the price of them now (about $130) is very fair. I think that these have been discontinued, the only ones left being warehouse specials. I have heard that these have had problems, but the only thing I have ever had to replace is the HEPA filter. I remember seeing these around christmas time 2008 at sears, which had them for $249.99. What is interesting about this vacuum, as though it appears to be only dual-cyclonic, it is in fact multi-cyclonic. The cyclones are positioned sideways facing the inner 2 cyclones, as oppose to up, in dyson's cyclones. You do not see these cyclones, unless you take the assembly apart. It does a GOOD job of filtering dust. I do not have to wash the pre motor filters until after about 7-8 uses. The filters are THICK, so I would guess that the motor has seen very little fine dust, also considering that it has only seen about 20 hours of use. I used it for my main vacuum, for about 6 months. As I got more vacuums, I used it less and less. I only use it 1-2 times a month now. For what it is, it is a good machine. Basically, it is comparable to a Fantom Lightning. OK suction, excellent performance on low pile carpet, very good filtration (the Hoover has much better pre-motor filtration, and it is multi-cyclonic) Basically, I see it as an improved Fantom Lightning. My only worry now is that parts are starting to get hard to find for it. Here is a recent pic of it. I still have the box and manual (I don't know where the manual is though) It also came with a decent floor brush. Here is a brief overview:
Pros:
-good value considering price
- good filtration w/ effective multi cyclonic efficiency
- decent suction
- motor well protected from dust
- good for low-medium carpet
- good for floors
- adjustable wand
- long life belt
-easy to access tools
Cons:
-plastic is still fairly cheap
-motor runs fairly hot
- dust container small
- attachments are small and flimsy (older hoover upright tools do fit this)
- not the best for very thick carpeting
- narrow, non-crush-proof hose will be hard to un-clog
- blue exterior easily shows wear and scratches
- fairly heavy
-impossible to fully clean cyclone chamber (the top portion does not come off)
T
he bottom line: It is a good vacuum is you want a bagless canister. It is best for if you have a mix of floors and low pile carpets. The tools are pathetic and are not meant for heavy above-floor cleaning. Make sure to clean the filter after at least every 8 uses, for dirtier jobs, after every 3 uses. Replace the HEPA filter every 1 1/2 years. Be sure to take care of it, don't abuse it. The vacuum is fairly cheap, and parts will break if it isn't taken care of. This vacuum is best for people who only have to vacuum a couple of times a week, and don't have heavily-soiled carpets.
Does anybody know the facts behind the development of this Hoover?
It is my Hoover Elite Cyclonic. I think this was one of hoover's first serious attempts at a multi-cyclonic vacuum that ACTUALLY separates dust effectively. I wanted a canister for versatility. This was before I had a ton of vacuums to choose from. I bought it from target for $215 in September 2010. I can't say that $215 was the best value for this, but I think the price of them now (about $130) is very fair. I think that these have been discontinued, the only ones left being warehouse specials. I have heard that these have had problems, but the only thing I have ever had to replace is the HEPA filter. I remember seeing these around christmas time 2008 at sears, which had them for $249.99. What is interesting about this vacuum, as though it appears to be only dual-cyclonic, it is in fact multi-cyclonic. The cyclones are positioned sideways facing the inner 2 cyclones, as oppose to up, in dyson's cyclones. You do not see these cyclones, unless you take the assembly apart. It does a GOOD job of filtering dust. I do not have to wash the pre motor filters until after about 7-8 uses. The filters are THICK, so I would guess that the motor has seen very little fine dust, also considering that it has only seen about 20 hours of use. I used it for my main vacuum, for about 6 months. As I got more vacuums, I used it less and less. I only use it 1-2 times a month now. For what it is, it is a good machine. Basically, it is comparable to a Fantom Lightning. OK suction, excellent performance on low pile carpet, very good filtration (the Hoover has much better pre-motor filtration, and it is multi-cyclonic) Basically, I see it as an improved Fantom Lightning. My only worry now is that parts are starting to get hard to find for it. Here is a recent pic of it. I still have the box and manual (I don't know where the manual is though) It also came with a decent floor brush. Here is a brief overview:
Pros:
-good value considering price
- good filtration w/ effective multi cyclonic efficiency
- decent suction
- motor well protected from dust
- good for low-medium carpet
- good for floors
- adjustable wand
- long life belt
-easy to access tools
Cons:
-plastic is still fairly cheap
-motor runs fairly hot
- dust container small
- attachments are small and flimsy (older hoover upright tools do fit this)
- not the best for very thick carpeting
- narrow, non-crush-proof hose will be hard to un-clog
- blue exterior easily shows wear and scratches
- fairly heavy
-impossible to fully clean cyclone chamber (the top portion does not come off)
T
he bottom line: It is a good vacuum is you want a bagless canister. It is best for if you have a mix of floors and low pile carpets. The tools are pathetic and are not meant for heavy above-floor cleaning. Make sure to clean the filter after at least every 8 uses, for dirtier jobs, after every 3 uses. Replace the HEPA filter every 1 1/2 years. Be sure to take care of it, don't abuse it. The vacuum is fairly cheap, and parts will break if it isn't taken care of. This vacuum is best for people who only have to vacuum a couple of times a week, and don't have heavily-soiled carpets.
Does anybody know the facts behind the development of this Hoover?
sebo_fan
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Well its better shared than kept to yourself. Besides the mere introduction of the Dyson came in after Tolivac responded with his experience of Dyson. You then followed suit in reply 32 after asking about Dyson.
So, in actual fact you're one of the members on here who turned the thread into another aspect.
So, in actual fact you're one of the members on here who turned the thread into another aspect.
crazykirbydude
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My Kirby Heritage II kicks any Dyson's butt! It defeated my (freshly washed) DC14 and DC25. On VacuumLand, We don't take kindly to modern PlastiCrap.
