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turbo500
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Yes, the "bumps" are infact carpet beaters. As the brushes spin and groom the carpet pile and sweep away embedded dirt, the beaters beat the carpet to loosen deep down grit and help with the removal of fine dust particles. Hoover always used beaters on their cleaners, hence the old slogan "The Hoover Beats, As it sweeps, as it cleans". The "activator" brushroll was part of what made the Turbopower "turbo" in the first place. I believe it was the first major redesign of the actual brushroll that Hoover ever went through and was certainly an improvement. Hoover used it on all their uprights from 1983 to just after Candy bought Hoover out in about 1997/98.
turbo500
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Thats a bit of a controversial question Jamie, and I don't think there is any right or wrong answer. The activator brushroll was first used on the Turbopower in 1983 which is a higher wattage and completely different design to the Seniors. Sadly, I don't think there is anyway of telling which is the better brushroll unless they can be used in the same machine so one could fairly compare the performance of the same machine with a different brushroll (if that makes any sense). I believe the activator is widely accepted to be the better brushroll, but it's all a matter of opinion to be honest.
I think the activator would be best, as lots of little bumps would beat better than a few big bars in my opinion, but then I could be wrong, as my '93 Philips U800 has the long bars (plastic instead of metal though) and it cleans exceptionally well, but better than the Turbopower ? I don't know... It is a tough one!
I'll have to watch closely next time I use the Philips and see if it is better than the Turbopower, seeing as they are roughly the same wattage (900W for the Turbopower and 800W for the Philips) and the same age.
I'll have to watch closely next time I use the Philips and see if it is better than the Turbopower, seeing as they are roughly the same wattage (900W for the Turbopower and 800W for the Philips) and the same age.
turbo500
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AEG Nimble, Dyson dc27 or anything else that catchs my eye
Are you on the hunt for something bagless? Argos have some great deals on at the moment. The Vax Mach XP Pet is on sale at £79.99.
Are you on the hunt for something bagless? Argos have some great deals on at the moment. The Vax Mach XP Pet is on sale at £79.99.
turbo500
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In all honesty, if you want a bagless cleaner, a Dyson is your best bet. However, if you're looking for something a little less pricey, I've found the Vax Mach range to be good and the Hoover Airvolution machines to also be very effective. Both use an efficient dust separation dual cyclone and not a cheap, direct filter cyclone (although neither are quite as effective as the Dyson Root cyclone). Happy vacuuming and be sure to let us know what you get.
rolls_rapide
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The new Turbo Power has a Vax UK/Hoover USA style of agitator: the brush bristles sit on the ridge of the beater bar.
I know that my Electrolux 550 wore down two motors. A friend's elderly parents' 504 wore down, and someone else told me their's did the same. The motor spindle wore down, the belt drifted and cut into the plastic of the motor cover.
The Electrolux engineer replaced the motor the second time with the 610 series motor. It had a belt bulge to try to prevent the problem recurring. When I saw that it too was starting to wear, I got shot of the machine.
Also had a Hoover Junior U1104, flat belt machine. It did the same, the belt pulley wore down. However, it was a very simple job to unscrew and replace the belt pulley on this model.
I know that my Electrolux 550 wore down two motors. A friend's elderly parents' 504 wore down, and someone else told me their's did the same. The motor spindle wore down, the belt drifted and cut into the plastic of the motor cover.
The Electrolux engineer replaced the motor the second time with the 610 series motor. It had a belt bulge to try to prevent the problem recurring. When I saw that it too was starting to wear, I got shot of the machine.
Also had a Hoover Junior U1104, flat belt machine. It did the same, the belt pulley wore down. However, it was a very simple job to unscrew and replace the belt pulley on this model.
turbo500
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The new Turbo Power has a Vax UK/Hoover USA style of agitato
Vax UK machines don't have a beater bar, they just have bristles. The only upright on the UK market aside from the Turbo Power is the Panasonic bagged upright.
Vax UK machines don't have a beater bar, they just have bristles. The only upright on the UK market aside from the Turbo Power is the Panasonic bagged upright.
rolls_rapide
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Hoover Agitator versus Hoover Activator
There was one machine that could be fitted with either: the Hoover Junior U1104.
Very late models, circa 1990, had the plastic activator instead of the more traditional metal agitator.
Theoretically, the activator should be better, because the brushing power had effectively been doubled (twin helix of bristles) and the beating action doubled too, as opposed to the agitator which was half beating and half sweeping at any one time.
The activator also lifted the pile more effectively and combed it too.
There was another agitator that we never saw much of, but was of American origin: the Quadraflex agitator. Basically, the beater bar rods were situated immediately behind the brush strips. The idea was that, as the brush met the carpet pile, the bristles curled around the beater bar which was now where the brush was a moment ago. As the brush vacated the carpet, the now flexed bristles imparted a kinetic flicking action. Apparently this agitator was fitted to the Mk I Hoover Sensotronic "Electro Kinetic" power head. Supposedly a very effective action.
There was one machine that could be fitted with either: the Hoover Junior U1104.
Very late models, circa 1990, had the plastic activator instead of the more traditional metal agitator.
Theoretically, the activator should be better, because the brushing power had effectively been doubled (twin helix of bristles) and the beating action doubled too, as opposed to the agitator which was half beating and half sweeping at any one time.
The activator also lifted the pile more effectively and combed it too.
There was another agitator that we never saw much of, but was of American origin: the Quadraflex agitator. Basically, the beater bar rods were situated immediately behind the brush strips. The idea was that, as the brush met the carpet pile, the bristles curled around the beater bar which was now where the brush was a moment ago. As the brush vacated the carpet, the now flexed bristles imparted a kinetic flicking action. Apparently this agitator was fitted to the Mk I Hoover Sensotronic "Electro Kinetic" power head. Supposedly a very effective action.
rolls_rapide
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The new Turbo Power has a Vax UK/Hoover USA style of agitato
They do: the Vax Magnum, Vax Mach 1,2,3,4,5,6,7.
Sister has the Vax Magnum; Sister-in-Law the Mach 7.
Vax Mach Air lightweight has a mickey mouse beaterless turbobrush style of brushroll.
Full size agitator is a cylindrical affair, but not a perfectly round cross-section. Where the bristles are situated, there is an elongated ridge - this imparts a beating action. Cross-section would be more of an oval shape. Certainly much better than Dyson's twisted ribbon brushroll.
Picture of the Vax Mach 7 agitator cavity. (Windtunnel ducts only fitted to the superior models).
They do: the Vax Magnum, Vax Mach 1,2,3,4,5,6,7.
Sister has the Vax Magnum; Sister-in-Law the Mach 7.
Vax Mach Air lightweight has a mickey mouse beaterless turbobrush style of brushroll.
Full size agitator is a cylindrical affair, but not a perfectly round cross-section. Where the bristles are situated, there is an elongated ridge - this imparts a beating action. Cross-section would be more of an oval shape. Certainly much better than Dyson's twisted ribbon brushroll.
Picture of the Vax Mach 7 agitator cavity. (Windtunnel ducts only fitted to the superior models).
turbo500
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That must be a new thing - my old office has 2 Mach 7's in it and they certainly didn't have beater bars. Still, thanks for the info. Glad to see there are still cleaners with beater bars out there
rolls_rapide
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No, not new, been on the go in the UK in Vax models for some time.
Here is a picture of an American Hoover agitator. Notice that the clumps of bristles sit upon a pronounced spiral ridge. This ridge beats the carpet.
The periodic gaps in the spiral ridge are there to accommodate the guard straps that span the soleplate. This to to prevent the flex and lightweight carpets/rugs from being drawn into the agitator cavity, jamming the agitator and breaking the belt. In the case of the flex, damaged flex might mean electrocution to the user.
Here is a picture of an American Hoover agitator. Notice that the clumps of bristles sit upon a pronounced spiral ridge. This ridge beats the carpet.
The periodic gaps in the spiral ridge are there to accommodate the guard straps that span the soleplate. This to to prevent the flex and lightweight carpets/rugs from being drawn into the agitator cavity, jamming the agitator and breaking the belt. In the case of the flex, damaged flex might mean electrocution to the user.
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