Hoover Convertible With Type Q HEPA Bag Installed

[wyaple]

I had always promised myself that any vacuum I obtained would have a HEPA quality bag (or similar filtration system for bag-less) and when I came across this 70's Custom Convertible, I was doubtful it could be done without mangling the original airflow. My goal was to find a cloth HEPA bag AND keep the vacuum as a bottom fill machine. Oh, and I wanted to accomplish this feat as cheaply as possible.

So for a whopping $2, I grabbed a Hoover Type Q bag and off I went modifying it...

Bill

 

[wyaple]

Closeup of My Craptastic Trim Job

Very little actually has to be trimmed from the Q bag. About 3.5 inches wide by 0.25 inches deep. This is the smallest opening that would fit over the fill tube.

 

[wyaple]

View #1 of The Q Installation

 

[wyaple]

View #2 of The Q Installation

 

[wyaple]

The Q Bag Fills The Outer Bag Quite Well

 

[wyaple]

Q Bag Stability Outside of Outer Bag

I did have issues with Type C paper bags coming off the fill tube, especially after vacuuming under furniture. The solution was to add two heavy duty rubber bands below the metal spring. The back pressure with type C bags is tremendous compared to the almost no back pressure at all with the HEPA bag. The motor runs a bit better as well since some strain has been removed.

What do you guys think of this mod? At least it's a Hoover bag in a Hoover machine...

Bill

 

[fantomfan57]

Nice going, Bill....

I will be testing using several different brand Hepa cloth bags when I try out my Air-Way 88 and Vita-Vac.

 

[rolls_rapide]

Nice idea.

I had thought about a similar 'bag doctoring' for my 1334 Hoover Junior. My idea would have involved using the Sebo X4 Ultra filtration upright bags, and cutting off the plastic collar. This would leave it open-ended for the bag support tube.

 

[rivstg1]

I just found this mod thread

Thanks so much for showing the details and explaining this creative way to use HEPA with an older machine! I already converted my Royal 886 model from a bottom bag paper to a Kirby Hepa top fill ( using Heritage tube and F style fill neck), I would have just gone your route had I known!!!! appreciate it more b/c if I get another older Royal and I"m going go your route next!

 

[phaeton]

Hoover Convertible whit lager bags using HEPA F&G Bag

Hello wyaple and All,
I have been using these "Vacuum America Clean" F&G bag in the later Hoover Convertible with the larger outer bag. I have not found the "C" Hoover bag that is a HEPA bag.
Also, with my Kirby D80 but with a generic Kirby zippered style outer bag. So the Emptor is in a box with the real D50 bag.
This might not work for those of you that are Kirby collectors and of a purist nature.
This might be an easier way to go?
Good luck to all,
Pete

 

[vacuumlad1650]

This only works on the wide style Hoover outer bags. It would cause the narrow style bags to rip open.

 

[mikanic]

That is really amazing!

It's amazing how you can just get something modern and put it into something old. It's a very complex but cool alternative to trying to find the original bag which to this day would be very rare.

I will note, however, that I'm confused! Not by how you did this process, but what type of Convertible. Well, not to worry now as I've seen images. Because here in my country the Convertible was the Hoover Senior! What's even worse is that the Convertible that we knew was the Dial'a'Matic in your area! Funny, isn't it?

Back on topic, I'm really amazed at how creative you are with HEPA bags.

 

[gj3476]

Will a type Q bag still fit well in a narrow vinyl outer bag right? Like on the first pic of the hepa bag it looks kinda slim.

 

[vacuumlad1650]

I would not advise it on a slim bag, as the aged vinyl could rip. You might fond a smaller HEPA bag to use, or locate a second outer bag which is wide style to use for HEPA filtration.