Help!! Electrolux CB motor???
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dysonman1
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The old Model L motor will interchange with no modification needed. The motors you've been trying to obtain from ESSCO are non-genuine motors made to fit newer models. The CB came out in 1968, and need a motor made during that time period to work properly.
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Isn't it something that Electrolux wouldn't have wanted to put a more powerful motor in their commercial machines. I mean, really! The CB has a longer hose, the floor tools are wider (less concentration of suction power) and the airflow has to go through a thick cloth bag. I had a CB once upon a time, silver with 1205-blue top, and was very disappointed by the wimpy suction so I gave it away.
I'm wondering if the company ever "learned their lesson" and installed more powerful machines in their later commercial models.
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Isn't it something that Electrolux wouldn't have wanted to put a more powerful motor in their commercial machines. I mean, really! The CB has a longer hose, the floor tools are wider (less concentration of suction power) and the airflow has to go through a thick cloth bag. I had a CB once upon a time, silver with 1205-blue top, and was very disappointed by the wimpy suction so I gave it away.
I'm wondering if the company ever "learned their lesson" and installed more powerful machines in their later commercial models.
I loved the Electrolux CB machine. I used one at the bank for almost 20 years. I think it had the 1205 motor. We used it for many years with a PN-1 and then upgraded the power nozzle.
Also one of the churches I played for used one for many years. It finally started showing it's age and they purchased a new model. Plastic molded tank and the L shaped power-head. (may have been from the Marquis time frame) Perfect for use in a church setting. My only complaint was it did not have the direct connect nozzle/hand grip so you couldn't use the power-mate Jr. The last time I visited as a guest organist for a funeral they were still using the newer machine (However, they trashed the MDS-26 Allen Organ...long story but they are now totally happy clappy...with a keyboard... even got rid of a perfectly good piano..but I digress)
I was always amazed at how well it cleaned and how often it needed to be emptied. We used the paper filter liners in both machines. Typically we didn't notice much difference in air flow as the tank filled. Both machines were moderately quiet and provided years of service. The bank replaced their unit with a Pansonic commerical and then a central vac unit. The new custodian brought in her own vacuum once the central unit was installed. She hated the central vac with an air driven powerhead.
Also one of the churches I played for used one for many years. It finally started showing it's age and they purchased a new model. Plastic molded tank and the L shaped power-head. (may have been from the Marquis time frame) Perfect for use in a church setting. My only complaint was it did not have the direct connect nozzle/hand grip so you couldn't use the power-mate Jr. The last time I visited as a guest organist for a funeral they were still using the newer machine (However, they trashed the MDS-26 Allen Organ...long story but they are now totally happy clappy...with a keyboard... even got rid of a perfectly good piano..but I digress)
I was always amazed at how well it cleaned and how often it needed to be emptied. We used the paper filter liners in both machines. Typically we didn't notice much difference in air flow as the tank filled. Both machines were moderately quiet and provided years of service. The bank replaced their unit with a Pansonic commerical and then a central vac unit. The new custodian brought in her own vacuum once the central unit was installed. She hated the central vac with an air driven powerhead.
dysonman1
Well-known member
I agree Hans:
The CA (Commercial Automatic) was many years ahead of its time. How rare to find a wet/dry vacuum with a flow-thru motor? A power nozzle? Automatic full bag shut off? There haven't been any commercial canisters as advanced since then, I believe.
The CA (Commercial Automatic) was many years ahead of its time. How rare to find a wet/dry vacuum with a flow-thru motor? A power nozzle? Automatic full bag shut off? There haven't been any commercial canisters as advanced since then, I believe.
fallonsewnvac
New member
Hey guys...
this is my first post but I have been stealing your secrets for a couple years now by lurking without joining I decided to join to ask a question and thank everyone as well.
Does anyone have a part number for the motor in question? I have a customer with a Model CB vac serial 26133, turquoise top and would love to fix his machine up rather than sell him a new one. HESCO has a few 5.1" Ametek motors, but I'm not sure any would fit... I do have a few Super J's in the back, but this motor has that funky adapter plate. Will that fit? Thanks again. 
this is my first post but I have been stealing your secrets for a couple years now by lurking without joining I decided to join to ask a question and thank everyone as well.
Does anyone have a part number for the motor in question? I have a customer with a Model CB vac serial 26133, turquoise top and would love to fix his machine up rather than sell him a new one. HESCO has a few 5.1" Ametek motors, but I'm not sure any would fit... I do have a few Super J's in the back, but this motor has that funky adapter plate. Will that fit? Thanks again. 
super-sweeper
Well-known member
While I cannot speak for part numbers,
I would like to state to Dysonman1-Is the CA not a Dry-only machine? Were they NOT designed to be used on wet surfaces? I'm quite sure you've said wrong, But being that you own the vacuum cleaner museum of St.James, Missouri, how could you not know?
I would like to state to Dysonman1-Is the CA not a Dry-only machine? Were they NOT designed to be used on wet surfaces? I'm quite sure you've said wrong, But being that you own the vacuum cleaner museum of St.James, Missouri, how could you not know?
collector2
Well-known member
Hey Alex
Tom is right. The CA did have a wet pick up configuration as did the early model CB's. This is from the manual from the early CB but the CA had a similar set up where you added a wet pick up attachment into the tank.
Doug
Tom is right. The CA did have a wet pick up configuration as did the early model CB's. This is from the manual from the early CB but the CA had a similar set up where you added a wet pick up attachment into the tank.
Doug
super-sweeper
Well-known member
thanks,
That makes more sense as to have the wet/dry configuration in the form of an attachment, whereas most modern day wet/dry cleaners are permanently set up in that fashion.
That makes more sense as to have the wet/dry configuration in the form of an attachment, whereas most modern day wet/dry cleaners are permanently set up in that fashion.
The reason
for the quitting of putting wet pickup in the commercials was the high sudsing soaps and detergent being used. You would need a defoamer that a lot of people were not aquainted with and the cost of warranty.
The reason for the demise of the CA was the cost of the cleaner . ,If memory is close the machines sold well over $700 when you put everything on it. Quite a hefty price in 1962. My father sold 15 and had one himself. He sold it to a lady that wanted it and when he went to get another they quit selling them coming out with the CB. I loved the CA and still do.
for the quitting of putting wet pickup in the commercials was the high sudsing soaps and detergent being used. You would need a defoamer that a lot of people were not aquainted with and the cost of warranty.
The reason for the demise of the CA was the cost of the cleaner . ,If memory is close the machines sold well over $700 when you put everything on it. Quite a hefty price in 1962. My father sold 15 and had one himself. He sold it to a lady that wanted it and when he went to get another they quit selling them coming out with the CB. I loved the CA and still do.
