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The DA001 was the first Dyson I ever saw, belonging to my Aunt and Uncle. I thought it was the coolest thing I had ever seen at the time and tried to persuade my Mum and Dad to by one. Thank God they didn't, as just a few years later when I got to use one properly, I realised just how crap they were.

It saddens my greatly that there are people in the world who consider Dysons to be their childhood vacuum - I remember the days before Dyson existed. There were some seriously cool vacs around when I was a kid, and a huge mass of different makes and models. I really feel for anyone growing up in the bagless generation, the market seems so boring these days.
 
I really feel for anyone growing up in the bagless generati

but didnt you grow up in the bagless generation lol 
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'Bagless Generation'

I, too, feel sorry for those who are growing up / have grown up in the age of cheaply-produced, (but expensive to buy!!) 'plastic-y' throw-away appliances.

Regardless of the manufacturers' claims, I would challenge any of them to out-perform my 20+ year old cannister or compact cleaners. I keep my (fully washable/reuseable) filters clean, and they will happily lift the carpet with their airflow. My older cylinder cleaner has more mediocre performance, but then only has a 300W (or thereabouts) motor. ;)

Another beef I have is with 'consumable' filters, etc. Plastic cased, non-reuseable paper elements which cost an arm and a leg, subtle control of the supply of which effectively limits the life of the appliance, unless a model is popular enough to encourage 'after-market' suppliers to make 'pattern parts'.

I grew up in the age of cylinder cleaners, and will always appreciate the feel of a good, heavy, braided hose and metal (yes, real metal) fittings....

As someone (sorry, can't remember who, or in which thread, and I'm not going to look it up) said on AW.org 'that's why I use 60 year old appliances... They still WORK'. I doubt that appliances produced now (vacuums or 'white goods') will still be working in 16 years, never mind 60....

Ok..... Rant over..... :)

Please discuss....

Dave T
 
I agree about the filter situation - many of the so called lifetime filters these days are nothing of the kind, and most seem to fall to pieces after a certain number of washings - Vax are an example of this, when they recommend the filters are replaced on the Power 6 canister every so often, as the inevitable stresses and strains of constant washings (due to this being a single cyclonic vac) will wear out the filter within a year or so. These filters cost more than a couple of packs of bags would cost - so negating the benefits of a bagless cleaner. Very clever marketing and high pricing of filters is a con. The same can be said of the Bissell vacs, where the pre-motor is washable and re-useable, but the post motor is paper in a plastic surround and not washable. This post motor filter gets dirty quickly as Bissels are not very good on the quality of pre-motor filtration, and the post motor filters are expensive for what they are.

My 32 year old Kirby Heritage needs only bags - it has no Hepa pre-motor or post motor filters, and a single layer paper bag. When suction reduces, just change the bag and once a year wash the outer bag - that's it. It still lifts the carpet and does a great job of cleaning - it also has no plastic bits that snap off like modern vacs and I could drop it down the stairs and it wouldn't break - maybe bend the bag hanger a bit. Drop a Dyson DC07 down the stairs and I can safely predict you will need a new Dyson afterwards lol.

Dysons are a good vac, but they need to be treated with care, as they are fragile. Dyson revolutionised the vacuum cleaner market - so I say hats off to him for doing this in the space of 10 years, as that is good going. If people are still prepared to pay a fortune for a plastivac, then he must still be doing something right.
I like both bagged and bagless vacs, as each have their merits and their uses, but I still think that the Kirby cleans carpets best, although it aint so great for hose use.
 
but don't practically all bagged machines require filter changes to, some of which are more expensive than a bagless cleaners filters, plus you have to factor in the cost of bags.
 
Michael, not quite. I was at least 5 when I first heard of Dyson with the DA001 and it was another 2-3 years until they became as popular as they were. I remember the days where there were no Dysons on our street.

And no, the filters do not require the same maintenance. For example, my Mum's Panasonic was in daily use for 17 years and never once had it's filters changed. Granted, it probably could have done with being changed, but it still worked fine and for all those years. A bagless cleaner will always require far more and often messy maintenance.

Incidentally, I bought a replacement pack of Panasonic filters recently for £1.95 in my local hardware shop.
 

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