EU energy-saving rules cut power of vacuum cleaners

[vintagerepairer]

"Hoopla"

is about the fact that the cleaners do not have to draw this amount of electricity, and it has been proven in the past that a decent design can improve suction power, not just motor wattage. Energy consumption is a BIG deal here in Europe. Vacuum cleaners using massive amounts of electricity will, collectively, add up to a lot of power used. And no matter how short the operating period is, if you were to ask anyone if they'd like to pay half as much to run anything, you're unlikely to find someone who says they are happier paying double.

 

[uksausage]

Good idea

I think it's a good idea to cap the power of vacuums. Years ago we didn't need 2000w motors and our vacuums performed just as well. I remember as a kid using my neighbours Band ETA cylinder vacuum it was the cheapest machine in the argos book and at 650w the suction was amazing, my mums lux 154 was 750w and the lux 1185 slimline electronic was 800w and the suction was amazing on these the filtration was pretty good as well. I have never understood the amount of power these new machines use, ok some say for a bagless machine you need that power because if the airflow restrictions from the filters. I'm not a Dyson lover but if James Dyson can design 2 bagless uprights with low power consumption (DC03 DC24) that pick up dirt why can't other people. I know the public need to be educated to realise that that the higher the wattage doesn't mean it performs better so why not let the public know. There are enough useless ads on tv that we all watch one more won't hurt.
Ok that's my views. I know not everyone will agree with me. But then you can't please everyone all of the time
David xx

 

[tolivac]

Then another question does the vac motor REALLY draw the power that is specified-remember with the universal type motors used in most vacuum cleaners-the wattage marked may not be really what the vacuum cleaner draws from the line-Most motor wattage figures are derived in a laboratory with the motor on a test stand connected to a dynameter.
Yes, I know we can build vacuums that have smaller motors that can do the job.But I think gov't regulation in these areas is pointless and silly-We have bigger fish to fry!Some of my better performing vacuums have smaller motors.Kirby,Royal,Hoover Convertibles,Sanitaires,etc-Ie direct air machines.For canisters the motor does not have to be 10A just to pull air thru a typical residentual size 1.25" vac hose opening.

 

[sebo_fan]

Benny - I have just had a thought regarding what you've said.

Perhaps this new law that is coming in, is white wash to try and hide rising energy costs in the UK? Think about it! Even if that Energy Star report pdf I added on here months ago shows actual data savings of something ridiculous like a saving of $7/£5 every three years, No wonder the government are in support of it!!

 

[vintagerepairer]

"I think gov't regulation in these areas is pointless and silly-We have bigger fish to fry!"

Well, you'd love it here in the UK with our governments. Only probably not.

Sebofan, it could well be 'white wash', but whatever it is, I stand by my point that few people would enjoy paying more for electricity than they need to.

 

[uksausage]

Tolivac

Lol. The other thing I forgot to say was that in response to comment most people only use the vacuum for around an hour each week. In my house it's over an hour a day lol but that's what comes with the joys of having 6 cats and a dog
David

 

[tolivac]

When I say "Most " folks-those are people that are NOT vacuum collectors!And these folks may or may not have pets-they still would vacuum only once a week.I vacuum the most used areas of my place daily-I don't have pets.The "once a week vacuumers" are what vacuum salesmen LOVE-No matter what brand vacuum-all the dirt pads they pull to show to the client.
I am OPPOSED to gov't intervention in the appliance and many other industries-think of the money saved if we DIDN'T have to put up with this stuff-I think the energy and water requirements in the US for appliances is too harsh-Its to the point washers and dishwashers use so little water they can't get the job done right or without excessivly long cycles.For many folks TIME is a more valueable resource than the water or power.And I don't like Gov't trying to tell ME what vacuum,washer,potty,or dishwasher to buy-ENOUGH!!!Close these depts down and we will save in the longer run.Yes,we know as vacuum collectors that larger motors doesn't always make the vac better-I just want to decide for MYSELF!!LET THE MARKETPLACE DECIDE these issues!

 

[vintagerepairer]

gov't intervention

Tolivac, there are hundreds of issues which we in the UK do not welcome gov't intervention, and wattage of vacuum cleaners is probably way down the list. As a country, we're stuffed.

 

[sebo_fan]

Sorry but in my mind this law doesn't hold up much in my experience- unless someone or a true organisation has actually bothered to test how much an 1800 watt Miele vacuum uses compared to an Oreck or whatever brand. we will never actually know the true test findings. Energy reports or energy labels will only tell half the story and not much saving can be hard if you vacuum once a day for a good couple of hours compared to one hour.

Certainly it isn't as expensive as switching on your heating throughout the day when the use of it is at its highest.

 

[tolivac]

As Sebo-Fan says-what about other appliances-certainly your HVAC system will use far more power than even the most powerful vacuum cleaner-also your lighting,and even your TV will use more if you watch a lot of TV-many homes the TV is playing just about all day.Get to voting and try to vote these regulator bums out!

 

[vintagerepairer]

Tolivac, I don't mean this disrespectfully when I say you have no idea how this country works. Voting means nothing as we only ever get one of the two main parties in power, or as is the case now, a so-called coalition between one of the main players and as lesser party.

You mention TVs, and these too have come under scrutiny in the recent past. Energy consumption of brown goods is very much considered.

 

[tolivac]

There are a couple of states that limit power consumption of TV's-so that rules out plasma and CRT type sets.Sad that voting doesn't help in England.Its almost not helping here-but makes you feel you can get rid of some of the bums.