Electrolux Silverado Model 1505

[keither]

The ️️Electrolux Silverado Model 1505 ️️I gave into impulse and a good vibe and bought the machine off EBay-I’m glad I did! I’m now the proud owner of two Silverados No PN but that’s all good as I have a new one that awaits in storage. The seller found the machine at an estate sale for a former Electrolux salesman.The hose thankfully is fully sealed and the tools have not been used. This is as close as I’ve come to finding a NIB Elux Silverado , but that’s ok, because it’s still very much new in my eyes! It runs very nicely , probably about as good as the day it was taken out the box [this post was last edited: 3/8/2020-18:40]

 

[human]

You got your vacuumojo workin'!

 

[keither]

L o L ...Hey Edgar thx !!! I'm trying to get my groove back !

 

[lesinutah]

Lol

You have never shown a loss of vacuum mojo. You do like teal green and sea blue colors.
Glad to see sweet vacuums.
Les

 

[keither]

Ha...Les thank you for the kind words buds! I hope your doing well!

 

[madman]

Very nice and clean machine!

 

[rodknock95]

Nice!!!

I seen that one on Ebay, it was even close to me!! Glad it went to a new home!

 

[suckolux]

Just like a step back in time

 

[jo]

Very nice find

Ahh...looking at those photos reminds me of viewing my cousin’s Silverado when she first got in back in 1983...I was visiting and for some reason it was a big deal that her husband had bought her an Electrolux Silverado for Christmas so they were opening the hall closet and showing it off...I think they had a Hoover or Eureka upright before that and of course an Electrolux was a big expense so the purchase was a conversation piece. Kind of like buying a new fridge or expensive washer or even a car or house! Saw my cousin a few years ago at a family wedding...she said she still has the Silverado and called it “really old” now.

My Silverado was bought used at a vacuum store in 1994 and it has some time worn issues now...a few dings on the chrome top, scratches on the sides and bottom that were there when I bought it and the plastic Gide piece is cracked underneath...I had to replace the hose. Though I wish my housekeeper had not been as rough on it, I think some of those to dents in the chrome top were from her. My Silverado deluxe sticker came off eventually as well. The gray on the plastic top has yellowed to a beige as almost all of them seem to do, doesn’t look like that has happened to yours yet. I do enjoy keeping things looking new though if at all possible.

Enjoy your find...I wonder if the inside rubber on the hose has dried out. I have a Silverado era non electric hose in the box with my XXX and the inner rubber has dried out some and mildly leaks despite having almost never been used and wants to return to the curved position it was stored in for so long. Frustrating.

Jon

 

[keither]

@ Madman, Blaze, Dave, and Jon thanks for your kind words and feedback!

 

[human]

Yeah, I brought a Silverado back from the brink last year. At first, I decided just to keep it as a reminder not to engage in emotional buying but the more I looked at it, the more I wanted to fix it up. It got a switch out of an Olympia One, some minor rewiring, and a plug and front caster from the hardware store. The plate on the caster was an imperfect fit. I had to screw one side in, then rotate the plate a few degrees to line up the diagonally opposite screw. It's still pretty beaten down looking but it's alive.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Keith,

I doubt you've ever lost anything at all.

 

[rdwdcp]

Looks nice good for a collection.

 

[jo]

The best of Electrolux

Some have said that the Silverado was the best of Electrolux ever...as far as motors go and also the general durability of the housing, handle, the features, etc. It is pretty much the same motor as the Super J and Olympia, but the Silverado was the newest in age. Starting with the next model, the Diamond Jubilee, the motor mounts with bearings were now plastic. Previously all parts were plastic allowing for better heat dissipation and removal allowing the motor to last longer. The PN5 power nozzle offered with the 1984 Silverado models was a definite improvement over the PN4 model on the 1983’s.

While I have a Silverado, G, and AF among other older machines I’ve had and we have in the family...so far these seem to be the longest lasting without issues and in close competition with the model L for that award. I recently acquired an Aerus Lux Classic and Lux Legacy both in great shape, likely from little use, but I often wonder.....how good are the motors in these machines compared to the older all metal Motors?

Seems like America and manufacturing of quality products reached a plateau in the mid 80s and the companies realized they were building stuff that was going to last forever but would also bankrupt them...and with the advancement of plastics over the years suddenly the industry standard became...cheapen costs by going to plastics, yes, it will shorten life, but cause disposability of the product creating a need for repurchase in the future sustaining the company. Unfortunately I’ve seen the same in washers and dryers and gone on about that on automatic washer.org.

Aerus/Electrolux does use Lexan and other high quality plastics in their machines and parts and this helps durability and in some cases the lexan is better, it doesn’t bend, rust, or dent or crush as easily as metal so perhaps this is good.

One thing is for sure, that Silverado, (and older machines) will forever be synonymous with Electrolux quality and you certainly have a beautiful one there. Just curious how much did you get it for?

 

[human]

Jo wrote:
"The PN5 power nozzle offered with the 1984 Silverado models was a definite improvement over the PN4 model on the 1983’s."

I reply:
While I agree with the rest of your post, I don't agree with you on the relative merits of PN5 and later Omniflow nozzles for a couple of (admittedly subjective) reasons:

-I prefer metal (especially shiny metal) to plastic, so I prefer the PN2 and PN4. That said, I think painting the PN4 to match the Olympia One and Silverado models was an unfortunate choice as it shows scratches so much worse.

-I'm also not a fan of the 'outrigger' on the omniflow nozzles because I'm constantly getting it caught on furniture. Admittedly, this may be because I'm left-handed and the design is optimized for right-handed users. In the narrow confines of my house, I just prefer the narrower and more symmetrical design of the earlier power nozzles.

 

[keither]

Mgosh..What can I say? But to say it again ...you guys are the best! Your feedback, your support, just in all your a great group of guys to collect with and to share with. Thanks so much! For some reason I don't think the Silverado has gotten as much visual attention as say the 1205, Super J or the Olympia. Even though it shares the same motor as the Super J, it seem to be stronger somehow...or is it my imagination? The first one I bought is nothing short of a workhorse. And its identical twin has reiterated that fact. In comparison to machines that are made today- really there is no comparison. Electrolux has exceeded expectations in so many ways. I'm very proud to be a collector of these machines. I paid 100.00 for this one. I normally don't share the cost I pay for my machines , but oh what the heck on this one [this post was last edited: 3/13/2020-15:04]

 

[electrolux137]

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Ever since finding my first Silverado at a thrift shop for $10.00 I've greatly admired that model. It's beautiful and wonderful color-styled and cleans like a dream.

 

[electrolux137]

Silverado and Silverado Deluxe

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Here are the two different motors of the Silverado and Silverado Deluxe. However, I've forgotten which is which! The difference is that a "snout" was added at the back end of the bag chamber and the rubber seal around the motor was eliminated. So my hunch is that that the one without the rubber is the newer one. Or else they figured out the shorter motor mount wasn't good so they went back to the original style and removed the snout from the bag chamber. I'm sure someone here knows!

 

[blknblu]

The different motors could be due to whatever Electrolux had on hand.
The Silverado metal canister shell & later had a larger opening for the motor.
It can take a modern 5.7" motor due to the larger hole size.
I have models with both kinds of motors, and some with the plastic extension,

 

[jo]

Silverado vs. Silverado deluxe

Electrolux137: I didn’t realize there was a difference, I thought all Silverado models were officially called « Silverado deluxe ». I wonder if they changed the power nozzle on the deluxe versions as well to the PN5 along with the motor change. I had to change the motor on a friends Silverado deluxe....it did not have the rubber and was short like the left one in the picture. I put a motor from an ultralux in it, that required some rigging of the body to get it to fit and I had to even swap the bag compartments for it all to fit and seal properly.

Human: Yep...being left handed would make the L shaped power nozzles awkward for you. My opinion of the PN5 being better than the PN4 (I agree later PN’s were even better then the PN5) but of those two offered with this model..the PN5 seems to have been a better cleaning and more durable design. My Electrolux man told me the bearings for the brush on those PN4s are notorious for wearing out making the belt jump grooves. I’ve experienced a few with just this issue. As far as the metal vs plastic...I like the plastic because it doesn’t chip or tarnish like the painted or unpainted aluminum covers. The plastic top is lexan which is highly durable and virtually unbreakable...it doesn’t crack... and the bottom plastic I’m not sure what it’s called but it too is very durable and very unlikely to crack. And the self adjusting wheel system is better than the floating design on the PN4. But yes a PN2 would ultimately be a nice pair but we can discuss favorite Electrolux power nozzles in a new thread, eh?

I just passed up an Olympia One at Goodwill today for $21.99. I just don’t need it...the generic rubber gas pump style hose is taped at both ends and the power nozzle cover is horribly chipped up so the whole thing has seen a lot of wear. Everything I have is in better condition so I wouldn’t consider it a good find, though I don’t have an Olympia in my collection but my Mom has her Mother’s and it is in very nice condition. It would need a new hose to be complete and the metal extra wands...combo rug and floor tool, dusting brush upholstery tool, and crevice tool were all missing. And the main unit would need some cleaning up and looked it’s age of 38-40 years. Perhaps someone who would like to rehab it will pick it up and get a hose for it and the other attachments. After I got home I thought...well I guess I could have gotten it...rehabbed and sold it...but honestly I don’t think it’s worth the time to do it as I’d probably have to Invest almost what I could sell it for on eBay in the purchase to start, then a new or better genuine used hose and more attachments to make it a nice marketable set, not to mention the paint job for the PN cover and cleanup needed. Typically sheath cords wear out too causing the power nozzle to sputter so that too could be a Need. So I left the store perfectly content without it, though I did pass by it in the store about 4 or 5 times.

 

[blknblu]

Another pic ..

 

[jo]

I don’t think you’ve overpaid

Keither: thank you for sharing your purchase price. I don’t think you’ve overpaid for that machine considering it’s condition...in fact, I think you got quite a steal and wonderful to have such a great condition machine in a collection. With so little use on it I do think it will go up in value as it ages and these machines become more and more rare as time goes on. I once saw a Golden Jubilee new in box still go for $1,500 on ebay and excellent condition machines like yours go for $500 or more.

Jon

 

[jo]

Motors

Ok BLKnBLU I think I was wrong in my post above, the motor I changed in the Silverado deluxe was long and I changed it to a short one from an ultralux...as a result...I had to change the bag compartment from the old yellow one too to use the white one from the ultralux and cut the metal of the silverado’s Body to fit the ultralux’s wider fan unit in.

Jon

 

[blknblu]

So I did a search ... there is an older thread that discusses the Silverado motors.
They originally started with Super J / Olympia motors and later transitioned to the ones found in the diamond Jubilee.
My Silverado apparently has a replacement motor and is not the Super j / Olympia style.





https://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?33288

 

[electrolux137]

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Well, the more I thought about it the more I thought I had asked this question before. A quick search of this site's archives came up with this. (See link.) So I'm only partially senile!!



https://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?3018

 

[jo]

Motors

Thanks for the links to last threads guys. I just reviewed. Seems like after some ongoing confusion, things are more clear now. In any event, as Most of us concur, the motors in the Super J, Olympia One, and Silverado seem to be indeed Electrolux’s best, then the changes adding more plastic with the Diamond Jubilee motors are when things started to go downhill somewhat but were then addressed allowing the Grand Marquis and Ultralux motors to be good, but I often wonder how good in comparison to a Super J, Olympia, Silverado motor? Though I think it might be marginal at best and as long as the machine has a motor then runs nicely and does the job well, it’s a good thing!

My Mom had a Golden Jubilee we got used, the motor did start making lots of weird grinding and grumbling and whining noises usually upon shut down and we took it to the local Electrolux store, the man told us it was now dying and was drawing a high amount of power and he showed us how much it was sparking at the brushes when on. I asked if it just needed brushes but he said no, the whole thing was just worn out. Of course it was a 1205 motor. We could agree as the lights in the room would flicker when the machine was on. We decided to let it go and I took off various parts for use in other machines as Mom had recently had a new cord put on by Electrolux and perhaps a switch too. The hose may have been leaking some at that point too so perhaps it went out with the machine but I probably kept the handle with my parts as a spare. I have many of those handles with the power strips that are still in good shape from hoses that died long before the handles. Now, it’s the other way around so good I still have those hose handles to put on a decent rubber hose whose handle has crapped out.

 

[rugsucker]

Electrolux Motors

1st Super J with increased suction and vibration was worst.Later Olympia and Silverado were fixed and best.Metal DJ motor was even worse.The plastic end was part of the repair that fixed and improved it.

 

[paul]

Awesome-looking cleaner, Keith; I'm glad it's now in your stellar collection!

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As far as I know the 1505's only model name was 'Silverado Deluxe'. I have never seen a decal or literature stating otherwise. From the '60s to the '80s Electrolux Corporation used 'Deluxe' to refer to a cleaner which included a power nozzle. Beginning in 1975 with the Super J 1401, the pn was standard rather than an option; although the 1505 was the only Electrolux Corp. cleaner to have the term on its model name decals on the cleaner (the Super J's, Olympia One's & 1453's were only in literature & cartons & the 1205's & Model G's were only on their cartons; not sure about the Model L's).

Early 1505s—for the first 6 months or so—had a finger grip instead of the front short handle. These were all paired with the PN-4A power nozzle & the serial number prefix was a different letter than the rest of the run.

Here's a list of handle changes on the automatic tanks from the Super J to the Silverado Deluxe:

1401 Super J & Olympia One: center long handle & front finger grip
1401B & 1505 Olympia One: center mid-length handle & front short handle
1505 Silverado Deluxe (I): center mid-length handle & front finger grip
1505 Silverado Deluxe (II): center mid-length handle & front short handle

The 1505 change was likely due to an unexpected find of older-style overstock or a miscommunication rather than being intentional.

 

[jo]

I had noticed the two different handles on both Olympia’s and Silverados and often wondered why for the longest time. This explains it! Though if it was an overstock situation they wouldn’t have been gray on the Silverado so clearly they were made for the Silverado. Maybe the mold broke for the handle grip and they went back to the old finger grip mold for a while until it could be redone. I am surprised how strong the handle grip is...almost never see any broken ones. Also I’ve noticed the bumpers on the Olympia’s were started flat but then improved with the fins which continued into the Silverado. Those fins keep the bumpers from collecting paint scuffs...I do like them.

When the L shaped power nozzles first came out I’ve seen PN 5 with both the dark gray cover and a beige cover (but rarely the beige one) then PN6 came out with a gray cover with beige bumper for diamond jubilees.... was the beige pn5 sold on early diamond jubilees? Also, I had a diamond Jubilee model that does not and appears to never have had the Diamond Jubilee name on the top of the unit near the back. I wonder if they stopped the name after the year of the “Jubilee” was over with no model change.

Jon