Electrolux Silverado and Silverado Deluxe

[camelotshadow]

notice the inside bag compt is a different color than the liner around it.
No I'm sure of one thing that the bag compt with the motor screen was switched.

Look at the pics of my oly & silverado bag compt & compare it to the one pictured here

I can see the cord is beige as well as the back of the unit which holds the cord winder.

I';m not saying its not good for parts
just that this is really a frankenvac!

Wonder why hed list PN2 if it said pn4A

no big deal & he's being honest about the wierd wiring.

 

[camelotshadow]

see a difference?

these are my bag comp
notice the one above has 2 different colors inside

 

[lux1521]

Interesting. I don't know why that would be. It is all one piece so part of it must have been exposed to something the other part was not.

 

[camelotshadow]

you sure its one piece?
Anyway I still feel the one with the small square screen cover is the olympia bag compartment.

Could be possible my silverado bag compt is weird?

Anyone else have one like mine?
see the different screen

 

[lux1521]

I'm starting to think the Silverado has a number of incosistencys. I have a feeling they gradualy modified that model through its run. This tendency can be seen in nearly every Electrolux model and I'm betting the Silverado is no different.

 

[camelotshadow]

Well its an S serial # so it should be a later Silverado model as mine is a P

Still it doesn't mean that someone couldn't switch the front swivel wheel part as that holds the serial number...

LOL

Back to the drawing board!

LOL

 

[elux89]

My Silverado has the plastic screen, with a completely dingy yellow coloring. What I've noticed is that my Ultralux Classics, the chamber is more of a white color, and the plastic doesn't seems to be as brittle. Is that from age, or a different type of plastic material?? Erick, have you noticed this??

Vernon

 

[lux1521]

Yeah, the Ultralux plastic is quite white, and almost transparent in some cases. It should also be noted at this point that the Ultralux has a white motor cover and not gray, and has rubber covering of the back of the cordwinder and not painted metal. They are quite different.

 

[camelotshadow]

I'd say the circular plastic screen guard was the Silverado design.
The square metal screen Olympia.
I think that Silverado model with the screwed up wiring has the olympia screen & I think that bag compt maybe even motor was changed

 

[lux1521]

If the bag case is original then it is probably an early Silverado.


While we are talking about colors and the Ultralux Classic, I though I'd post a picture of one I had a few months back. It must be one of the coolest looking Electrolux models ever.

 

[camelotshadow]

Oh I don't know anymore...
Hey why would my olympia not suck as strong as the silverado?
Motor works...what makes the degrees of suction?
If I had a nut driver I'd see what I could see but who knows
where to start
Not like I'm in love w the olympia.

The silverado is my daily cannister & has been for years

I'm getting a Kirby & Filter Queen
will see how they compare

 

[elux89]

Erick,
The blue Ultralux Classic is one "classy looking act" to follow. I've got three.

Christine,
In regards to why one has more suction than the other??? There could be a difference in bearing wear/play between the two, maybe one needs a commutator stone taken to the armature, cleaning it up and re-seating the brushes?? And speaking of brushes, what shape are they in??

Vernon

 

[camelotshadow]

Haven't got the nut driver to take out the motor yet
Don't know if its worth it
but I want to see whats up with it
if nothing eles to learn

I know brishes are sort of magnet looking things
Don't know what they do but know they wear down

I was peaking at my Royals

Hey, do you know there is sparkinginside my Royal motor when running
Do brishes spark?

 

[elux89]

Yes, brushes will spark/arc. But, the determining factor is how much spark do you see. If it's like a constant glow, don't worry, if it looks like a gas well going off, houston, you have a problem!

 

[camelotshadow]

Not sure whats sparking
but when I peak in the case I can see sparking...
From the our=tsid looking in I think the brushes are short
maybe 1/4 inc
but can't see if I'm seeing everything

The Royal is working
no wierd noise

Wish I knew more

I do love to make things better
Dr Vac
but mostly my skills are clean & unclog

Still if I can make them better
I sure would love to oblige

 

[lux1521]

Probably you only see the small amount of brush because the rest is setting in a holder. They will always glow some but if it is giving off a lot of sparks then there could be a problem.

 

[camelotshadow]

Was surprised to see sparks inside
looked like something out of the old worlds fair GE lightning house.
Not a glow I could see shirt thread like sparks
Don't know if its the brushes but its in that area

Guess will have to do a exploratory on the Royal
Good thing is it looks like the case comes off easier.

I would think they would have to sit in a holder of some sort so seeing some brush means theres some left

Are brushes spring sensitive?
They are held with a spring & there is a nut that pushes on them from the outside
I replaced it only til it set
didn't want to go extra tight on that part.

What attention would a sparking brush need?
Cleaning was mentioned above on the armature?

Bummer right now I have a few projects & darn if I have to add a vac lobotomy to it...LOL

but I'm curious & also don't want to do any harm by using it

 

[lux1521]

It looks like I'm going to do a lesson on all things carbon brushes tonight. I'll make sure my camera batteries are charged and I'll be back in a few hours to explain everything.

 

[camelotshadow]

OOOOh pics...

ooooh Goody!

THANKS!

its sort of fine thread sparking
not like a torch...or rocket plume
LOL

Just scared me as I viewed it while peering inside the case in a dark room so maybe its norml I hope

 

[camelotshadow]

Gosh it would be pretty funny to have a nitro vac with fire pluming out of the back...

LOL

 

[lux1521]

Vacuum up gasoline and thats exactly what happens. It's not a new concept.

Don't try it!!!

 

[camelotshadow]

P143374X is here!
My silverado w pn5
just getting it set up

PN works though wheels are shot & sqeaky
that came yesterday swivel had sand in it & I had to open the case & clean it

cleaned the fan blades too..

So this is a early Silverado?
I got 2 starting with P & ending with X
How odd???

 

[joevacman1]

Silverado Motor

The original silverado used the same Super J / Olympia One Motor. With the introduction of the Diamond Jubilee in Oct 1983 for the 50th ann. (Similar to cars being introduced the Oct before for next years model)and October being a traditional "Drive Month" for Electrolux Salesman , Electrolux produced a special run of Silverdao's at a "special price' to promote sales. In this special run the Silverado received certain changes , most prominent being the new designed DJ motor which was made in house I believe. I guess the Older Super J/Olympia motor was no longer being manufactured. Another change I remember was the plastic cordwinder housing as on the DJ.
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