Electrolux Silverado and Silverado Deluxe

[camelotshadow]

Oh I don't know anymore...
Hey why would my olympia not suck as strong as the silverado?
Motor works...what makes the degrees of suction?
If I had a nut driver I'd see what I could see but who knows
where to start
Not like I'm in love w the olympia.

The silverado is my daily cannister & has been for years

I'm getting a Kirby & Filter Queen
will see how they compare

 

[elux89]

Erick,
The blue Ultralux Classic is one "classy looking act" to follow. I've got three.

Christine,
In regards to why one has more suction than the other??? There could be a difference in bearing wear/play between the two, maybe one needs a commutator stone taken to the armature, cleaning it up and re-seating the brushes?? And speaking of brushes, what shape are they in??

Vernon

 

[camelotshadow]

Haven't got the nut driver to take out the motor yet
Don't know if its worth it
but I want to see whats up with it
if nothing eles to learn

I know brishes are sort of magnet looking things
Don't know what they do but know they wear down

I was peaking at my Royals

Hey, do you know there is sparkinginside my Royal motor when running
Do brishes spark?

 

[elux89]

Yes, brushes will spark/arc. But, the determining factor is how much spark do you see. If it's like a constant glow, don't worry, if it looks like a gas well going off, houston, you have a problem!

 

[camelotshadow]

Not sure whats sparking
but when I peak in the case I can see sparking...
From the our=tsid looking in I think the brushes are short
maybe 1/4 inc
but can't see if I'm seeing everything

The Royal is working
no wierd noise

Wish I knew more

I do love to make things better
Dr Vac
but mostly my skills are clean & unclog

Still if I can make them better
I sure would love to oblige

 

[lux1521]

Probably you only see the small amount of brush because the rest is setting in a holder. They will always glow some but if it is giving off a lot of sparks then there could be a problem.

 

[camelotshadow]

Was surprised to see sparks inside
looked like something out of the old worlds fair GE lightning house.
Not a glow I could see shirt thread like sparks
Don't know if its the brushes but its in that area

Guess will have to do a exploratory on the Royal
Good thing is it looks like the case comes off easier.

I would think they would have to sit in a holder of some sort so seeing some brush means theres some left

Are brushes spring sensitive?
They are held with a spring & there is a nut that pushes on them from the outside
I replaced it only til it set
didn't want to go extra tight on that part.

What attention would a sparking brush need?
Cleaning was mentioned above on the armature?

Bummer right now I have a few projects & darn if I have to add a vac lobotomy to it...LOL

but I'm curious & also don't want to do any harm by using it

 

[lux1521]

It looks like I'm going to do a lesson on all things carbon brushes tonight. I'll make sure my camera batteries are charged and I'll be back in a few hours to explain everything.

 

[camelotshadow]

OOOOh pics...

ooooh Goody!

THANKS!

its sort of fine thread sparking
not like a torch...or rocket plume
LOL

Just scared me as I viewed it while peering inside the case in a dark room so maybe its norml I hope

 

[camelotshadow]

Gosh it would be pretty funny to have a nitro vac with fire pluming out of the back...

LOL

 

[lux1521]

Vacuum up gasoline and thats exactly what happens. It's not a new concept.

Don't try it!!!

 

[camelotshadow]

P143374X is here!
My silverado w pn5
just getting it set up

PN works though wheels are shot & sqeaky
that came yesterday swivel had sand in it & I had to open the case & clean it

cleaned the fan blades too..

So this is a early Silverado?
I got 2 starting with P & ending with X
How odd???

 

[joevacman1]

Silverado Motor

The original silverado used the same Super J / Olympia One Motor. With the introduction of the Diamond Jubilee in Oct 1983 for the 50th ann. (Similar to cars being introduced the Oct before for next years model)and October being a traditional "Drive Month" for Electrolux Salesman , Electrolux produced a special run of Silverdao's at a "special price' to promote sales. In this special run the Silverado received certain changes , most prominent being the new designed DJ motor which was made in house I believe. I guess the Older Super J/Olympia motor was no longer being manufactured. Another change I remember was the plastic cordwinder housing as on the DJ.
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