Electrolux Silverado and Silverado Deluxe

[lux1521]

If its only the screen thats different then I'd say that both machines have the Super J motor. As long as the screens are in the same position, and the one on the Silverado is no deeper than the Olympia one then it is definatly a Super J motor.

 

[camelotshadow]

Doesn't look deeper but are we talking how much?

going to measure hace to get something to to fit thru the screen & be a depth guage...

there about the same as far as I can tell
say within a mm or 2

 

[camelotshadow]

I measured from bottom of motor under screen up to the top of the plastic fin
That distance is the same

Your saying the bag compartment could be longer in the silverado & that other distance the same?

OK Going back for another look

OK bag compt lengths are same too

So that's good!

I knew my Silverado had a good heart

LOL

 

[lux1521]

I'd say you have a good one. The difference would be no less than 1 inch. If it's within a few sixteenths then its the same.

 

[camelotshadow]

YEAH!!!!!!

Thanks

Now it has an olympia door close mech
That part on the olympia is much better than the Silverado!

Yikes things went down hill in the 80's

 

[elux89]

Erick,
Unfortunately I don't have a Silverado with the LF motor to compare the length at the end of the bag chamber. I did go and check my Ultralux Classics, and I see what you mean by how far back the motor sits in it as compared to the Silverado and SJ. Too bad most of these weren't sold in Canada. So, this little boy went to the lux service manuals, here are the part numbers listed for the bag chambers Olympia 41961, Silverado 43114, all 1521 models 42841.

We just might have to nominate you for the Nobel Prize in vacuum cleaner engineering and design!!

Vernon

 

[camelotshadow]

Dr Lux & Mr Silverado...

Nobel Vac Prize Nominee

LOL

 

[camelotshadow]

Hey, hows this for Shadowvac Holmes? LOL

WHAT NOT TO WANT:
LOOK AT THE FRANKENSTEIN

1505 has a
olympia cordwinder
olympiatop plastic
olympia rear cordwinder
olympia bag compartment

this has been peiced together from the graveyard

appears wiring has been screwed up
probably just crossed
& most likely it has the olympia motor

So that is probably the only way to fix the newer silverados

just switch the entire motor & assembly

Note you can see the olympia screen style
note the darker yellowed bag comparment

Hehehehehe

OOOOH & it;s serial # STARTS with S
I am suspecting that S serial # silverados have the newer motor





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[camelotshadow]

One other observation

Power nozzle is ????
PN2

probable has bottom of a PN2 but top is PN4A
& who knows what the heck they did with the guts in that!

 

[lux1521]

It looks like it has all Silverado stuff to me. The plastic parts can get yellowed after many years and they all start to look the same. The wiring sounds very screwed up. The PN is not a PN2, it is a PN4A. The is no way to switch a top and bottom between the two.

It sounds interesting, and might be a good deal for parts if you want a spare PN, motor, and a few other things.

 

[camelotshadow]

notice the inside bag compt is a different color than the liner around it.
No I'm sure of one thing that the bag compt with the motor screen was switched.

Look at the pics of my oly & silverado bag compt & compare it to the one pictured here

I can see the cord is beige as well as the back of the unit which holds the cord winder.

I';m not saying its not good for parts
just that this is really a frankenvac!

Wonder why hed list PN2 if it said pn4A

no big deal & he's being honest about the wierd wiring.

 

[camelotshadow]

see a difference?

these are my bag comp
notice the one above has 2 different colors inside

 

[lux1521]

Interesting. I don't know why that would be. It is all one piece so part of it must have been exposed to something the other part was not.

 

[camelotshadow]

you sure its one piece?
Anyway I still feel the one with the small square screen cover is the olympia bag compartment.

Could be possible my silverado bag compt is weird?

Anyone else have one like mine?
see the different screen

 

[lux1521]

I'm starting to think the Silverado has a number of incosistencys. I have a feeling they gradualy modified that model through its run. This tendency can be seen in nearly every Electrolux model and I'm betting the Silverado is no different.

 

[camelotshadow]

Well its an S serial # so it should be a later Silverado model as mine is a P

Still it doesn't mean that someone couldn't switch the front swivel wheel part as that holds the serial number...

LOL

Back to the drawing board!

LOL

 

[elux89]

My Silverado has the plastic screen, with a completely dingy yellow coloring. What I've noticed is that my Ultralux Classics, the chamber is more of a white color, and the plastic doesn't seems to be as brittle. Is that from age, or a different type of plastic material?? Erick, have you noticed this??

Vernon

 

[lux1521]

Yeah, the Ultralux plastic is quite white, and almost transparent in some cases. It should also be noted at this point that the Ultralux has a white motor cover and not gray, and has rubber covering of the back of the cordwinder and not painted metal. They are quite different.

 

[camelotshadow]

I'd say the circular plastic screen guard was the Silverado design.
The square metal screen Olympia.
I think that Silverado model with the screwed up wiring has the olympia screen & I think that bag compt maybe even motor was changed

 

[lux1521]

If the bag case is original then it is probably an early Silverado.


While we are talking about colors and the Ultralux Classic, I though I'd post a picture of one I had a few months back. It must be one of the coolest looking Electrolux models ever.