Electrolux Silverado and Silverado Deluxe

[lux1521]

Basicly all Lux PNs are interchangeable. You can even use a PN5 or 6 or 7 with a old model G if you wanted to.

 

[camelotshadow]

Yes, My Silverado has waited a long time for its PN

My Silverado deluxe was a salvation army find so it came pretty bare. Not even sure if it came with anything but the hose but I think strangely enough it came with 2 wands & a floor tool that had a grey plastic piece inserted into a olympia floor attachment as its beige w brown underneath...

Odd that I had the floor tool before I picked up the Olympia also thrift shop & it only came w the brown PN4 so between the two I had my attachments though not matching colors.

so now the silverado will have its own power nozzle & floor tool...& a spare vac for parts

Now I just wonder what motors they have.

 

[camelotshadow]

Thought I was getting the floor tool...oooh well, I guess I was wrong...you know you look at so many you go ga ga...
but even the hose looks good & parts these days are so $,
Seems easier to get the vacs then the accessories

 

[elux89]

I agree that the PN 5, 6, 7 etc, have improved edge cleaning. In regards to cleaning ability, I feel that we're better off with a 12 inch wide unit than a 15 (both identically designed) in that air velocity at the head is increased with the 12, causing better dirt pickup. Lux builds a great PN, but if you want a nozzle that eats them for breakfast in my opinion, buy a 12 inch Lindhaus and use it on your lux. The cleaning ability is greatly improved, not that the lux is any slouch to start with.

Vernon

 

[camelotshadow]

Know what you mean if identical pull is applied then the force exerted on the 12 in would be greater than on a 15 inch wide path but thats in part because of resistance of the narrower path. They should compensate 4 the additional width. Anyway the additional passing over the 3 inches may just cancel out any benefits of additional pull...

Sorry been a while since I studied physics

 

[camelotshadow]

PN4 Olympia

Noticed the PN4 square is different on the top of the case
On the PN4 there is a high spot on the front case that goes all the way across the back but it's only half way on PN4A.

Was this a better change?
Is there any significant diff bet a PN 4 & PN4A?

 

[lux1521]

Just the case changed. It was part of a gradual evolution to the L shaped PN5. It allows half of the nozzle to get under lower objects. Aside from that I am unaware of any other differences.

 

[camelotshadow]

Thanks, still have yet to find some time to try to get inside the olympia...It's on the surgery table waitng....

Hey, have a great day!

 

[camelotshadow]

Darn...Got Cordwinder out but motor nuts are so deep!

I have a socket set in car with extenders but think longest is 3 inches..

So had to close up patient again

Darn.,....

Your right a nut driver like the screwdriver kind would be great
I have a 1/4" but its too big
& can't estimate size

Well back to the drawing board!

 

[lux1521]

The nuts in there are 3/8 inch. That is the socket size you will need once you get a tool long enough to reach them.

 

[camelotshadow]

Vernon has a ser # with p-165__-x, and it has the super j motor"

My silverado deluxe ser # is P84975X
don't know what motor yet

I am spying a Silverado Deluxe ser # S60198D

S is along way from P so depending on how many they made there's a good chance that its got the crapy motor?

My Olympia is a K so it did go from K to before P when it is supposed the motor change happened around serial number P155

Still P to S is alot of production & if the Silverado had the new motor at the very end of production something might not add up?

 

[camelotshadow]

3/8?

oooh thanks
I might just buy a nutdriver for it
That saves me time fumbling around....

3/8?

you sure

I have a 5/16 nut driver & it looks so big

The nuts in there were smaller than the 1/4" nut driver I have.
Maybe its a different casing?

 

[camelotshadow]

Is this top part of a screw? Hope its not a bolt
Still think it will be harder to get them back in as I can see the screw falling all over unless it was magnatized & stuck to the socket.

Arrgh

 

[camelotshadow]

so in your pic on the left motor
are those the screws that go throu the plastic shield into the motor? R the things sticking out midway down the carbon brush holders?

I imagine I could try to estimate the length of the motor from the plastic housing to approx where the bag holder would be?
well maybe maybe not as it could be just a inch difference & maybe not too obvious.

Still I would think the portion inside by the cord wonder would be that metal encased part.
If I measured that I might be able to estimate the back motor size

Arrgh what was I thinking
thats the Olympia so it has to be the J motor

I might just open the silverado & compare that section inside the cord winder to the Olymp to see if there is a difference?

 

[camelotshadow]

sorry I meant right motor must be getting dyslexic...

Well better eat
think I;m getting light headed here...LOIL

 

[lux1521]

The bolts your looking at go around where I put the red marks in the picture below. The angle you see in this picture is what you will see when the plastic cover is removed. Anyway, I'm in the process of getting clever and developing a method to tell which motor is in it without taking it apart. Check back later tonight for more info.

 

[camelotshadow]

Yeah, Sherlock Vac...We;ll be waiting!!!!

Thanks, I had thought it was the other way well of course that's maybe the way it is motor then fan. I figured fan would be behind the bag compt...

Cool, spill those beans when you can
but I do want to see if I can see whats up with the olympia as the silverado definitely sucks better & I would suppose they should be the same & its not the hose as I am testing as the mouth.

 

[lux1521]

Ok, heres the deal. The Olympia and Silverado had different bag chambers than the later ones. The Super J motor sits about 1/2 inch behind the bag chamber. The later motors have a tunnel about 2 inches long that goes to the motor. If the bag chamber in your Olympia is the same as your Silverado then the Silverado has the Super J motor.

Give that a try.

 

[camelotshadow]

It's the same! well you tell me?

Plastic in Olympia is a bit more yellowed
Silverado plastic more cream colored & the insides are identical.

Well least in size
but don't they have to be to accept the bag?

Well here's a pic

Please clearify
To me they look the same but screen is different at bottom

?????

 

[camelotshadow]

door latch is better on olympia

I think I'm going to switch it to my Silverado

hehehehe

Soooo...what do I have?