vintagehoover
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I like my DC25. A lot. Just my opinion.
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Not everyone will like the DC25.
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Not everyone will like the DC25.
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singingrainbow
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This fourm was created to let fellow colectors share eachothers ideas NOT to start WW3!!! Who cares what brands eachother like we ALL have opinions
This fourm was created to let fellow colectors share eachothers ideas NOT to start WW3!!! Who cares what brands eachother like we ALL have opinions
edgar
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agree with singingrainbow
that is exactly how i see it
that is exactly how i see it
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Without any more "bashing," simply stated, Mr. Oreck is trying to show how unsafe, UNSANITARY a bagless vacuum really is. When you have a container that collects dust that must be emptied, you have to deal with emptying that container and some of the particulate matter that you vacuumed up going back into the air. Whether you empty it outside or in the house, unless you are wearing a dust mask, you are breathing some of that back in. Now you tell me, how is that more sanitary than a bagged vacuum with disposable bags? Sure, you don't have the expense of buying replacement bags, but is that such a high price to pay when your family's health may be at stake? Air-Way knew this in 1920 when they developed the first cleaner with a disposable inner bag. It's a shame they stopped making uprights so early on in production.
Without any more "bashing," simply stated, Mr. Oreck is trying to show how unsafe, UNSANITARY a bagless vacuum really is. When you have a container that collects dust that must be emptied, you have to deal with emptying that container and some of the particulate matter that you vacuumed up going back into the air. Whether you empty it outside or in the house, unless you are wearing a dust mask, you are breathing some of that back in. Now you tell me, how is that more sanitary than a bagged vacuum with disposable bags? Sure, you don't have the expense of buying replacement bags, but is that such a high price to pay when your family's health may be at stake? Air-Way knew this in 1920 when they developed the first cleaner with a disposable inner bag. It's a shame they stopped making uprights so early on in production.
In conclusion....
Of course Mr. Oreck would like you to buy an Oreck, just as much as Mr. Dyson would like you to buy his machine, but what Mr. Oreck is saying is that even if you don't buy his machine, bagless is not the way to go....
Of course Mr. Oreck would like you to buy an Oreck, just as much as Mr. Dyson would like you to buy his machine, but what Mr. Oreck is saying is that even if you don't buy his machine, bagless is not the way to go....
vintagehoover
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'is that such a high price to pay when your family's
I empty my Dysons into a bag, outside. I haven't died of it yet, and my family's health is certainly not at stake. I appreciate your concern, though.
I empty my Dysons into a bag, outside. I haven't died of it yet, and my family's health is certainly not at stake. I appreciate your concern, though.
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Speaking of emptying dirt.....
I was the guy in our household when I was a kid that had to take the Hoover Model 28 bag down to the basement and get all the crud out of it. I am still alive to tell the story. (I know, some of you wish otherwise, but....tough noogies). And, I have emptied a bagless vacuum bin out too. And I'm still alive.
Jack: Dysons are wonderful
Ohio_Tuec, Bagintheback: I love Orecks and any and all bagged vacuums and I like Dysons and any and all bagless vacuums, too
Disclaimer: Not everyone will like me. And this may not be the total and complete truth....
JL
I was the guy in our household when I was a kid that had to take the Hoover Model 28 bag down to the basement and get all the crud out of it. I am still alive to tell the story. (I know, some of you wish otherwise, but....tough noogies). And, I have emptied a bagless vacuum bin out too. And I'm still alive.
Jack: Dysons are wonderful
Ohio_Tuec, Bagintheback: I love Orecks and any and all bagged vacuums and I like Dysons and any and all bagless vacuums, too
Disclaimer: Not everyone will like me. And this may not be the total and complete truth....
JL
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I love Dysons, but I like bagged vacuums too. The attachments on my Dyson (an older DC 14) work well for me and I think it cleans great. I can empty it outside if I chose to, but I never do. The dust it sucked up was already in my home, so the fact that most of it got in the trash is good enough for me. A Dyson certainly beats a bagless that has the paper pleated filter right in the dirt chamber.
I don't mind buying bags and changing them on bagged machines. I don't understand how bagless vacuum manufactures can advocate bagless designs by calling the bagged systems messy and inconvenient. Seems like the pot calling the kettle black to me!
When I use my Dyson, I enjoy seeing the dirt it got up.
My advice to the OP is to try a Dyson. If you're going to get a bagless, I think they are superior to any other brand. If you buy a new one, you can always return it if you don't like it. Not having to be expendable consumables offsets some of the price... and buying a used machine in decent shape does as well. If I needed a good vacuum and I had to have bagless, I'd pay the full price for a new Dyson without hesitation. They aren't perfect, but they are awesome... and I haven't met a perfect vacuum yet anyway.
I'm not sure a vacuum cleaner is supposed to be sanitary. Neither are toilets or cat litter boxes... Some things just weren't designed to be sanitary. If I used my vacuum cleaner to prepare meals, then I would want it to be sanitary! But alas, I use it to clean dirt up (and indulge my passion for the machine itself), so if it's a little dirty, that just means it's working and well used/loved.
I don't mind buying bags and changing them on bagged machines. I don't understand how bagless vacuum manufactures can advocate bagless designs by calling the bagged systems messy and inconvenient. Seems like the pot calling the kettle black to me!
When I use my Dyson, I enjoy seeing the dirt it got up.
My advice to the OP is to try a Dyson. If you're going to get a bagless, I think they are superior to any other brand. If you buy a new one, you can always return it if you don't like it. Not having to be expendable consumables offsets some of the price... and buying a used machine in decent shape does as well. If I needed a good vacuum and I had to have bagless, I'd pay the full price for a new Dyson without hesitation. They aren't perfect, but they are awesome... and I haven't met a perfect vacuum yet anyway.
I'm not sure a vacuum cleaner is supposed to be sanitary. Neither are toilets or cat litter boxes... Some things just weren't designed to be sanitary. If I used my vacuum cleaner to prepare meals, then I would want it to be sanitary! But alas, I use it to clean dirt up (and indulge my passion for the machine itself), so if it's a little dirty, that just means it's working and well used/loved.
edgar
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Jack, fun colors
Ok Wel said vacuumfreeke, I still do not like the working very much, but fot collector purpose I do want one. So Jack help me out I like the colors puple and pink, I do like my collection models as complete as possible, I did like the dc11 though it was yelow. What should I look for, All ready found out that they are cheaper in the uk so I will look for it there, and I prefer A canister model.
greetz edgar
Ok Wel said vacuumfreeke, I still do not like the working very much, but fot collector purpose I do want one. So Jack help me out I like the colors puple and pink, I do like my collection models as complete as possible, I did like the dc11 though it was yelow. What should I look for, All ready found out that they are cheaper in the uk so I will look for it there, and I prefer A canister model.
greetz edgar
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Well, for a pink canister, the DC23T2 should fit the bill.
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC23-T2
http://www.dyson.co.uk/store/product.asp?product=DC23-T2
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Keith: Also curious as to any opinions you have on the DC22 DDM MH. I have the DC22 MH with the AC motor and think is a brilliant little machine, Personally I would love to try out the turbine head on one 
Feel free to email me. Email addy in my (out of date) profile
Jack: I absolutely love the 23T2
Edgar: You enquired about buying bags overseas... Well in Australia you usually just can't buy them from a supermarket
They may have Electrolux bags but that is about it.
For anything else you have to go to a specialty shop or the place where you purchased your machine to get genuine bags. Generic ones are a bit easier to find with one of our major department stores Big W (Think Wal-Mart without food) carrying a small range.
Personally, living 60 kilometres away from any of these it is quite inconvenient
When the Electrolux D735 was the daily driver, more often than not we would perform "surgery" on the bag because we weren't able to get more for a while.
When I got the Dyson DC05 it nearly filled the bin in our living room alone.
It is mainly for the inconvenience that I do not like bags. Combined with the whole loss of suction, That drives me nuts.
I am NOT saying bagless is for everyone! Quite the contrary, Different systems work for different people.
Karl: If your Kirby works for you I am really happy for you, However I believe, FOR MY USE that the Dyson is more economical, Time saving and hygienic.
As for the "UNSANITARY" bagless machines, Does this mean a bagged machine is totally clean? I am going to agree with vacuumfreeeke and say that no vacuum is totally clean.
I have found that since I started using Dysons in our house my Asthma and allergies have been under more control because the machine is not blowing air through dirt, rather spinning it out of the air stream (which is also interesting to watch).
As for emptying... I do what, According to Dyson, I shouldn't... According to Dyson I should empty it like Jack does... Into a baggie. Personally, I find out which way the wind is going, Turn my head, dump the bin in the direction of the wind and close it on the drive way... Never had an issue with doing it this way.
Feel free to email me. Email addy in my (out of date) profileJack: I absolutely love the 23T2
Edgar: You enquired about buying bags overseas... Well in Australia you usually just can't buy them from a supermarket
They may have Electrolux bags but that is about it.For anything else you have to go to a specialty shop or the place where you purchased your machine to get genuine bags. Generic ones are a bit easier to find with one of our major department stores Big W (Think Wal-Mart without food) carrying a small range.
Personally, living 60 kilometres away from any of these it is quite inconvenient
When the Electrolux D735 was the daily driver, more often than not we would perform "surgery" on the bag because we weren't able to get more for a while.
When I got the Dyson DC05 it nearly filled the bin in our living room alone.
It is mainly for the inconvenience that I do not like bags. Combined with the whole loss of suction, That drives me nuts.
I am NOT saying bagless is for everyone! Quite the contrary, Different systems work for different people.
Karl: If your Kirby works for you I am really happy for you
, However I believe, FOR MY USE that the Dyson is more economical, Time saving and hygienic.As for the "UNSANITARY" bagless machines, Does this mean a bagged machine is totally clean? I am going to agree with vacuumfreeeke and say that no vacuum is totally clean.
I have found that since I started using Dysons in our house my Asthma and allergies have been under more control because the machine is not blowing air through dirt, rather spinning it out of the air stream (which is also interesting to watch).
As for emptying... I do what, According to Dyson, I shouldn't... According to Dyson I should empty it like Jack does... Into a baggie. Personally, I find out which way the wind is going, Turn my head, dump the bin in the direction of the wind and close it on the drive way... Never had an issue with doing it this way.
i see in the future. . . .
i predict the next big *innovation* will be a vac without a bag or dust bin. an internal laser will zap the dirt, hair, dust mites, to smithereens with only a small amount of oxygen and water vapor as the end result. it will be very *green*, NEVER loose suction, and have all the bells and whistles.
it will be the ultimate vac and play toy. i have stated this before so if you want to use my idea mr dyson or mr kirby just call.
joe
i predict the next big *innovation* will be a vac without a bag or dust bin. an internal laser will zap the dirt, hair, dust mites, to smithereens with only a small amount of oxygen and water vapor as the end result. it will be very *green*, NEVER loose suction, and have all the bells and whistles.
it will be the ultimate vac and play toy. i have stated this before so if you want to use my idea mr dyson or mr kirby just call.
joe
edgar
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I think it will be the 23T2 and looking at the price I will take it from london. I hope to go there in march. annybody up for a small vacuum cleaners meeting?
I think it will be the 23T2 and looking at the price I will take it from london. I hope to go there in march. annybody up for a small vacuum cleaners meeting?
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