Dysons Twice the Suction claim - is it true?

[hi-loswitch98]

I keep seeing the advert fir the DC41 on the TV & Dyson claim the DC41 has twice the suction of any other upright vacuum. Is this true in your opinion?

 

[madabouthoovers]

No, and I really would take what Dyson claims with a pinch of salt. I hope Miele sue Dyson over some of his claims like a Dyson never loses its suction - it does if the filters get blocked.


Dyson will say anything if he thinks it will increase the size of his bank account, and sadly, many people will believe him, and dash out to part with their hard earned cash.


Suction power is all down the power of the motor IMO, and a Miele S8 at 2200W would develop substantially more suction than any Dyson. I can see this claim could be potentially challenged by Miele, but whether they will is another thing.

 

[sebo_fan]

The thing is, Dyson can claim all he likes. But a lot of buyers are reading up on reviews nowadays because Dyson will keep overpricing the vacuums - and some buyers if not most feel grudged to pay £300 or more "for the best."

Every vacuum cleaner loses suction, including Dyson -why does he keep reinventing ways to stop the inner cyclones from being clogged up?

And even if Dyson's claims can be proved where a bagless cyclonic no loss of suction can provide more suction than any other upright - can that same suction be relied upon for NOT destroying a carpet?

Hi-LO - Claims from vacuum cleaner brands are just pure and simple Claims, although there are some claims that are quite true - cue Oreck with their "lightweight" upright vacs.

Only a few claims ring true but they are very difficult to find a totally, universal agreement for every owner.

 

[eurekaprince]

I know many here do not place value on the results of American Consumer Reports testing, but in the latest tests, the Miele S7260 had airflow through the tool hose equally as strong as the Dyson DC 41(very good). But it outshone the Dyson DC41 in carpet cleaning - "Excellent" versus just "Good." The Miele was also quieter and better at picking up pet hair...

 

[piano_god]

Here's what he uses to back up that claim...

"Suction tested against upright market to ASTM F558 <span style="text-decoration: underline;">at the cleaner head</span>, dust- loaded as per IEC 60312-1. Graph reflects DC65 compared to top-performing product for each brand (Shark Navigator Lift Away, Hoover Windtunnel Air, Eureka Air Speed One Turbo, Bissell Cleanview Helix)."

Dyson is getting bolder with his "claims" ("claims" being used in its most frivolous form).

Suction at the floor head means little on a dry pick-up vacuum... If you want suction on your floor, you'd be better off sticking a toilet plunger to it...

[this post was last edited: 4/19/2014-20:38]

 

[parwaz786]

Hi Beckham, I know a DC04 with a worn brush and clutch is way better than a brand new DC41.

The DC41 I had in for repair has less suction than a DC04, it has a misleading upright lock click, the side ball breaks off, the design is horrid, the handle feels like its going to snap when you use the ball feature and its just a step down from a DC25.
DC25 is better in every way, metal wand, nice and sturdy, great suction and good brushbar, lifts carpets, its quiet, has a proper ball, and its much easier to use. IT is also much more robust

 

[madaboutsebo]

I understand it as being twice the suction of the brands he's mentions in the ad on the website. Or does he means all brands of vacuums. This must be when the pre motor filter is clean!

You could say its misleading as it's been reported that Dyson says filters (pre) can cause lost of suction after a time even on their own vacuums hence why they designed the Cinetic.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Some points to consider

Now, I am in no way standing up for anyone, but after all that James Dyson has been through with his own products, and given the amount of companies he has complained about to the Advertising Standards Authority, is there anyone reading this who still thinks that Dyson would be so downright stupid to launch an advertising campaign costing goodness knows how many hundreds of thousands of pounds which had such blatantly false claims?

If Dyson are saying that their cleaner has twice the suction of any other upright, then you can bet your life there is an official laboratory test which has all the relevant exceptions and clauses in it which permits Dyson to use the results in this way.

It does not matter whether or not this is relevant to the job which the cleaner is designed to do, what matters is that Dyson are using words and terms which the consumer wants to hear.

Consumers are a fickle breed. Look how many people in the UK smoke cigarettes. Each packet warns the purchaser of the dangers of smoking, and still they ask the sales assistant for 20 more chances to kill themselves. Until you understand that mentality, you cannot really get inside the heads of the general public.

 

[thekirbylover]

DC04 with a worn brush and clutch is way better than a dc41

tayyab I will have to disagree with you, the DC41 has to be one of the best dysons Ive used, its probably there best machine they have made in a long time, they dont have as much suction as a dc04 because they dont need to, the brush roll is very good and those design issues have since been rectified,the only thing I will agree on is the handle as it doesn't feel very sturdy oh well it will be something the user will have to get used to.

 

[sensotronic]

The claim is misleading.

A casual TV viewer on hearing the claim will assume that the Dyson has twice the suction of any other upright. This is not true. Looking at Dyson's UK website you will see that it was tested against a handful of other uprights, not every upright currently available. Unless Dyson purchases one of EVERY current model to test against the DC41, then the claim cannot be proved.

 

[vintagerepairer]

The claim is misleading.

In that case you have good grounds to complain to the ASA. But you will need sufficient proof to back up your claim.

 

[parwaz786]

Michael, Dyson claims it to be the most powerful vacuum, but why can a DC04 seal to the floor whereas the DC04 can't?

 

[sensotronic]

Benny, I have been on the ASA's website and will be putting in a complaint. The TV commercial states that the Dyson has twice the suction of any other upright, but they haven't tested it against every current upright on the market. That is misleading in my book.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Keep us posted on their findings.

 

[hi-loswitch98]

 

[parwaz786]

Lies! the DC07 is the most powerful Dyson ever made and they know it

 

[turbomaster1984]

Something I heard on QVC about 3 weeks ago during a Dyson slot....

'It took 60 'engineers' 3 years to perfect this technology'

What technology I thought? getting a carpet clean? filtering the air?

Something electrolux and hoover had perfected to more than acceptable standards.

Didnt mention anything about the cost of the 60 'engineers' that consumers have ended up paying for plus the time and resources they wasted while pratting about with their ELC shapes and Fisher Price shape sorter.

Yes its 60 jobs and thats great, but come on????

Where does this crap end?

 

[turbomaster1984]

Not to mention the Dyson tv rep himself

'We stole this technology and shrunk it down so we could use it, stole I errr mean developed......'

 

[parwaz786]

A bit hypocritical, They stole the Cyclone dust extrction method and shoved it in a vacuum, then they sue Vax and Hoover etc for little things like a plastic box (bin).