baglessball
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I wonder what will be made of this..
The impact test to the bins is pretty impressive.
The impact test to the bins is pretty impressive.
Dyson Testing
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vintagerepairer
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As we all know, they can test all they like but the real testing takes place when a model goes live. That's when the real trouble start. Factory testing can only replicate assumed potential problems, and furthermore the tests are identical, for instance one ram into a skirting board after another.
If any manufacturer wants to test cleaners to be sure, 12 months use across 100 members of the public would be a start.
If any manufacturer wants to test cleaners to be sure, 12 months use across 100 members of the public would be a start.
spiraclean
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The impact test is impressive to watch, but people don't replace the bin on their Dyson because a hefty lump of metal got dropped onto it from a height. They replace them because the bin flap hinges are thin and break easily.
As for the "designed to survive 10 years" claim, I'm not entirely convinced that Dyson even want people to keep their cleaners that long. This is why they frequently run a trade in promotion, offering 20% off a new cleaner. I work at the main distribution centre for a major retailer, and amongst other makes and models, the amount of late model Dysons that get traded in is unreal - some of which are new enough to still be under guarantee. They know full well that people get bored of what they already have, and the discount is just a little nudge to persuade them to upgrade early. Not only does this increase their sales volumes, it also thins the herd of discontinued models out in the field, thus lessening the demand for spare parts provision in future years. There's nothing particularly wrong with that per se, and some would say it makes good business sense. But it can hardly be described as "green" (if that's your thing), and is definitely isn't something they do out the kindness of their hearts as a favour to the consumer.
As for the "designed to survive 10 years" claim, I'm not entirely convinced that Dyson even want people to keep their cleaners that long. This is why they frequently run a trade in promotion, offering 20% off a new cleaner. I work at the main distribution centre for a major retailer, and amongst other makes and models, the amount of late model Dysons that get traded in is unreal - some of which are new enough to still be under guarantee. They know full well that people get bored of what they already have, and the discount is just a little nudge to persuade them to upgrade early. Not only does this increase their sales volumes, it also thins the herd of discontinued models out in the field, thus lessening the demand for spare parts provision in future years. There's nothing particularly wrong with that per se, and some would say it makes good business sense. But it can hardly be described as "green" (if that's your thing), and is definitely isn't something they do out the kindness of their hearts as a favour to the consumer.
super-sweeper
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I'd hate to rant but-
It annoys me how Dyson thinks they are so much better than everyone else!
"Self-Adjusting cleaner Head"-Has been around nearly forever- Straight suction floor tools, The Hoover Elite 200, Etc.
"Twice the suction of any other vacuum"-Use the vacuum for a week- THEN tell me that again.
Notice in the test about the dust in the crevice- the Dyson's burshroll is on, while the Shark's is not.Also notice how the vacuum cleaner itself (The Shark) is seen off before the vacuum sound stops- For all i know this was faked, The lights rigged, Or the hose removed.
What i do not understand- Is how this machine can still be certified by the British Asthma Foundation when it comes to Emptying that bin.
"Lots of Features" Nothing much too different from other cleaners- Just the basic tools like Turbine head, hose, Etc. So what if the hose "Lifts away", didn't Fantom do that first? (Note- I am unsure if they did or did not).
"Edge cleaning"- There's plenty of vacuums that have superb edge cleaning- Hoover & Eureka VIBRATE the grit and dirt towards the cleaning head. for example.
"Tested to survive 10 years"- 10 Years? Seriously? What happened to 30,40,50, Even 60 Years? Notice in their "bin smashy test" the bin cracks, you can see it at 6:28.
Now, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">THIS</span> Is Durability Testing!
(Notice- I know I'm likely to get backed over by a Dyson delivery ran for posting this thread- But I simply felt the need to stand against this over-hype vacuum cleaner).
-Alex.
It annoys me how Dyson thinks they are so much better than everyone else!
"Self-Adjusting cleaner Head"-Has been around nearly forever- Straight suction floor tools, The Hoover Elite 200, Etc.
"Twice the suction of any other vacuum"-Use the vacuum for a week- THEN tell me that again.
Notice in the test about the dust in the crevice- the Dyson's burshroll is on, while the Shark's is not.Also notice how the vacuum cleaner itself (The Shark) is seen off before the vacuum sound stops- For all i know this was faked, The lights rigged, Or the hose removed.
What i do not understand- Is how this machine can still be certified by the British Asthma Foundation when it comes to Emptying that bin.
"Lots of Features" Nothing much too different from other cleaners- Just the basic tools like Turbine head, hose, Etc. So what if the hose "Lifts away", didn't Fantom do that first? (Note- I am unsure if they did or did not).
"Edge cleaning"- There's plenty of vacuums that have superb edge cleaning- Hoover & Eureka VIBRATE the grit and dirt towards the cleaning head. for example.
"Tested to survive 10 years"- 10 Years? Seriously? What happened to 30,40,50, Even 60 Years? Notice in their "bin smashy test" the bin cracks, you can see it at 6:28.
Now, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">THIS</span> Is Durability Testing!
(Notice- I know I'm likely to get backed over by a Dyson delivery ran for posting this thread- But I simply felt the need to stand against this over-hype vacuum cleaner).
-Alex.
rootcyclone
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Hold your horses!
The testing done at Dyson does not replicate real life. It only partly does, remember that the testing has been condensed in the facility itself.
Sorry people but Dyson are the best out there. The best performing, The best innovation. With Numatic following close behind!
Because British vacuums, are the best. End of.
The testing done at Dyson does not replicate real life. It only partly does, remember that the testing has been condensed in the facility itself.
Sorry people but Dyson are the best out there. The best performing, The best innovation. With Numatic following close behind!
Because British vacuums, are the best. End of.
vintagerepairer
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End of?
Tell that to people who've had Dysons fall to bits on them. They've got a hell of a lot better in terms of build quality, of that I grant you, but they could do a lot more. They know exactly what they are doing.
Tell that to people who've had Dysons fall to bits on them. They've got a hell of a lot better in terms of build quality, of that I grant you, but they could do a lot more. They know exactly what they are doing.
beko1987
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My two early dc04s are not great, the plastic was worse back then. The difference between the 04 and 07 is night and day plastic quality wise
super-sweeper
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"Because British vacuums are the best"
That's quite a huge statement there.
Are you saying those little cheap things you buy at Tesco are going to prevail over a Kirby Dual-Sanitronic 50?
Or perhaps the Numatic over the Canadian Model 88 Elux-O-Matic?
While i hate to be rude- Dysons are certainly not the "Best out there".
Would they be the best when your pipes burst in winter?
No, your best bet would be a Wet/Dry Unit.
Would they be the best at removing deep-down grit and other damaging bits from under your rugs?
No, For that you'll require a Cleaner with superb positive agitation.
Would they be the best at lasting until the end of time?
No, For that you'll require a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Quality</span> Machine, such as Kirby or an older Eureka/Hoover style cleaner.
The only thing I can see Dysons being of use for- Is firewood.
I performed a test a year or two ago for bagless vacuums, I'll be Re-Performing this shortly, but with a wider range of vacuum cleaners.
-Alex.
That's quite a huge statement there.
Are you saying those little cheap things you buy at Tesco are going to prevail over a Kirby Dual-Sanitronic 50?
Or perhaps the Numatic over the Canadian Model 88 Elux-O-Matic?
While i hate to be rude- Dysons are certainly not the "Best out there".
Would they be the best when your pipes burst in winter?
No, your best bet would be a Wet/Dry Unit.
Would they be the best at removing deep-down grit and other damaging bits from under your rugs?
No, For that you'll require a Cleaner with superb positive agitation.
Would they be the best at lasting until the end of time?
No, For that you'll require a <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Quality</span> Machine, such as Kirby or an older Eureka/Hoover style cleaner.
The only thing I can see Dysons being of use for- Is firewood.
I performed a test a year or two ago for bagless vacuums, I'll be Re-Performing this shortly, but with a wider range of vacuum cleaners.
-Alex.
kirbysthebest
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Because British vacuums, are the best. End of.
Now that we know this we can stop searching, thanks for posting.
Now that we know this we can stop searching, thanks for posting.
vintagerepairer
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Now that we know this we can stop searching, thanks for post
That made me smile.
That made me smile.
piano_god
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"Because British vacuums, are the best. End of."
Hmmmm, I could have sworn Dyson's were merely "designed" in Malmesbury, yet made in Senai, Malaysia...
Sorry, but that doesn't make a Dyson a British vacuum. Numatic, however, IS a British vacuum.
Hmmmm, I could have sworn Dyson's were merely "designed" in Malmesbury, yet made in Senai, Malaysia...
Sorry, but that doesn't make a Dyson a British vacuum. Numatic, however, IS a British vacuum.
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those of you in the Uk look around you house and tell me how many apps you have that were made in the UK while your at it take a look in your garage or on your drive once upon a time we could make anything now we would be lucky to knock up a half decent egg timer
those of you in the Uk look around you house and tell me how many apps you have that were made in the UK while your at it take a look in your garage or on your drive once upon a time we could make anything now we would be lucky to knock up a half decent egg timer
blakaeg
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Dyson tests
Looks impressive but it hasn't stopped the issues I have encountered with my DC24 over the 4 years I have had it.
The cleaner head burnt out after 3 years use after developing the most horrendous rattling sound - a bit like a bee. Dyson sent out another head, its now started that horrible noise again after only 6 months use. The wand handle has snapped in the same place twice, causing the handle not to stay in the machine - seems like a weakness, where the handle can't cope with the twisting of the machine from left to right. I thought it was designed to be twisted in use.
I see that the DC50 has been improved on the wand level and I the cleaner head brush roller is more substantial. I did read on Manchester Vacs that there seems to be a design fault with the DC40 and DC41 cleaner heads.
On a positive note, Dyson has excellent customer service and send out parts. I cannot fault them there.
Vid link for the noise and handle issue.
Looks impressive but it hasn't stopped the issues I have encountered with my DC24 over the 4 years I have had it.
The cleaner head burnt out after 3 years use after developing the most horrendous rattling sound - a bit like a bee. Dyson sent out another head, its now started that horrible noise again after only 6 months use. The wand handle has snapped in the same place twice, causing the handle not to stay in the machine - seems like a weakness, where the handle can't cope with the twisting of the machine from left to right. I thought it was designed to be twisted in use.
I see that the DC50 has been improved on the wand level and I the cleaner head brush roller is more substantial. I did read on Manchester Vacs that there seems to be a design fault with the DC40 and DC41 cleaner heads.
On a positive note, Dyson has excellent customer service and send out parts. I cannot fault them there.
Vid link for the noise and handle issue.
blakaeg
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Handle snapping out
Numatic is the only british vacuum left in the UK now, and they are amazing, they are robust, powerful, quiet, have 5 litre bags, are good looking (not related) but they are so reliable that they are more popular than Dyson, if not then less, Dyson just had success and oelder people know that Dyson started off to be the original bagless vac, and then they put their trust in the brand, and even my Dad'd friend saw us at the carboot sale, he was like " You bought a Dyson too? so did I" he got a DC04 for £5 and he says they are good quality, Dysons are, and he would have bought another.
beko1987
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look around you house and tell me how many apps you have tha
Bit biased posting that on a vacuum forum! Off my head there are 8 or 9 british made and built machines in our flat! Granted they are all older Hoovers, but you didn't specify 'not vacs!'
Bit biased posting that on a vacuum forum! Off my head there are 8 or 9 british made and built machines in our flat! Granted they are all older Hoovers, but you didn't specify 'not vacs!'
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