Riccar 1800/Immaculate

[lokisdads]

I was wondering if anyone here has seen or performed airflow tests on the Riccar 1800 series machines. I have searched on line and haven't come across anything. I was hoping someone could shed some light on this.

Thanks

 

[blackheart]

Not exactly

I did test a verve which seems to share the same motor. They should be pretty close if not the same

 

[lokisdads]

Riccar Immaculate

@blackheart

Thanks for responding to my post. I have actually seen your test on the Verve ;very informative as always. I wasn't sure if they were the same. A local Riccar dealer told me the 1800 series had a big two stage motor(thus the hefty weight). I wasn't sure about the Verve. BTW, did you ever test the Prima/Wonder machine with the tandem air head attached to the canister. I saw your test of the wonder nozzle. I am thinking about buying a new canister for the house. It's a tossup between the Prima TAD and the Sebo E3 premium. I'm leaning toward the Sebo since I already have the X7 onyx.

 

[blackheart]

Well.

I've not worked on a ton of those machines but the ones i have have all have a single stage motor.Looking over schematics and descriptions I see a few motors that are labeled for multiple models from like the verve to the top of the line C390-2100.
You really were paying for more features rather than performance except for (maybe) the 3 row brush that came on the very top of the line models.

As for your prospective machines. I think the Sebo E3 is going to give you a longer life and it's also a little more user friendly with a more maneuverable, and less bulky head and a handle speed control.
That said I think the prima tandem air is the better cleaner on carpet despite having a little less flow at the head the agitation seems more aggressive. I do also like the hose a little better.

I am unsure why but it seems like i have a hard time getting the Tacony machines to mate well with my box.

 

[lokisdads]

Riccar Immaculate

Thanks a lot for the info. I'm sure your info is more current than mine. My Immaculate does pull 102" on my water lift gauge; which is why my curiosity was peaked a little.
The airflow numbers you got on the Verve didn't seem as good as on other comparable machines(E3, Prima, etc.). I am concerned about the reliability on the Prima as well.
Maybe the Prima with the standard nozzle might give you better results on your airflow box. As always, keep up the good work. I look forward to your new posts.

 

[panasonicvac]

When I was working at a Simplicity dealer having both the Moxie and the Verve on display, the Verve appeared to have more power than the Moxie when I was playing with both of them side by side. I thought they were both good canisters for what they are. Not as durable or reliable as the E3, but performance wise I thought they were better than the E3. I also did liked the Wonder, in all of honestly I don't think they're worth the cost. If you want the best overall canister on the market today, the E3 would be my pick. But if you want something that has better performance, the Miele Classic C1 Home Care Powerline is what I'd suggest.

 

[lokisdads]

Riccar1800/Immaculate

I will probably go with the E3. I did have the Miele C3 Marin, but ended up selling it. We have an older house, and the thresholds in some of the door ways are raised. The Miele had trouble going over them without scraping the bottom. It didn't seem to have enough ground clearance. I have used an E3, a Prima TAD, and a Sebo D4. They all seemed to have a little better clearance.The larger rear wheels seemed to work well with the Prima. The D4 is actually my favorite, but it is a little bigger and heavier than I would prefer; as our house isn't very large, and we have a lot to maneuver around. I do like the design/engineering aspects of the D4.

 

[panasonicvac]

That makes sense

Honestly for that kind of situation, I'd rather have a MetroVac Professional Evolution instead. The canister is high enough the ground where it should have any scratches on the bottom. Though they are rather outdated as they don't have a cord rewinder, wheels are plastic, no post filter, hose is wire reinforced, uses paper bags, etc. But they're more simple, I can use different powerheads, and their compact models can have a shoulder strap.

 

[lokisdads]

@Panasonic vac

That is a good suggestion about the Metrovac. I have a Royal Power tank(model 4250) which is pretty similar. I had trouble adapting an adaptor for my two cordless nozzles( Volt and Wessel-werk EB-360DC). I can get adaptors to fit in the wands, but can't work out a good way to make it lock in the hose; as has happened with other machines as well. Button locks in most of my hoses don't line up with the wands. It's much more of a problem with the Wessel than the volt.