Yeah it does look really good but I think it will go down to about 330. What do you think of the build quality I know it feels thin but I think it's not too bad it feels like I can give it a good beating lol it's very hard to see them but I see some like A Hoover TurboPower and looks like a hoover Junior it is hard to tell the not real photos of but is definitely got agitators.
Dyson DC41 Mk2
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I think a little flexibility is good, but not too much. For example, the DC14, DC24 and DC25 has some plexible plastic, but were still sturdy an hardly broke physically. I doubt much parts will break on the DC41 (apart from the weak looking joints) it looks nice, but the handle etc is too flexible. It doesn;t feel good, although it is a good vacuum. When I used a DC41, I turned the ball to the right, 90 degrees and the handle, and half of the main body were bending! I do not like the hole in the body that when you take the cyclone off, you can see the hose through the hole. The vacuum needs to be more dense to be more sturdy and durable.
I expect the DC41 EA to have good, big beaterbar which removes a lot of dust.
Powerful suction which is strong enough to lift the carpet up from the head.
A minimum of 2 rows of stiff bristles.
The capability of sticking to hard floors.
I expect the DC41 EA to have good, big beaterbar which removes a lot of dust.
Powerful suction which is strong enough to lift the carpet up from the head.
A minimum of 2 rows of stiff bristles.
The capability of sticking to hard floors.
super-sweeper
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The only MK.II I'm interested in is the Bison MK.II!
madaboutsebo
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I can not see any beater bars or beaters on the DC65 or DC41 mk2 brush roll!? The only different is the brushes are more spiralled around the brush bar. Plus all the brushes are of equal length on this new brush bar not the 2 different lengths as before on the old brush bar on the DC41. I like how Argos on their website has the DC41 mk2 as having variable power! I don't think it does!
mieles5380leo
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Mk2?
What does mk2 mean? I agree with blakaeg that it's a DC65 with a fancy name. It does have a beater bar. Any vacuum does. Even a $14.99 one does.
What does mk2 mean? I agree with blakaeg that it's a DC65 with a fancy name. It does have a beater bar. Any vacuum does. Even a $14.99 one does.
rolls_rapide
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Beater bar...
...refers to the raised metal or plastic bars most commonly seen on the Hoover upright cleaners, made from 1926 onwards. These beater bars worked in tandem with the brush strips - "it beats, as it sweeps, as it cleans".
"Agitator": originally a Hoover term, commonly refers to a brushroll with beater bars in addition to brush strips.
"Brushroll": is just that, a brushroll. Some manufacturers call their brushrolls agitators, despite the lack of beater bars.
"Brushbar": a Dyson term, though others have used it; people seem to confuse with beater bar.
"Activator": a Hoover term; an enhanced agitator which has twin helical brush strips, in addition to redistributed beater bars which now cover the spaces between the brush strips. Essentially, it "reactivates" the flattened carpet pile.
...refers to the raised metal or plastic bars most commonly seen on the Hoover upright cleaners, made from 1926 onwards. These beater bars worked in tandem with the brush strips - "it beats, as it sweeps, as it cleans".
"Agitator": originally a Hoover term, commonly refers to a brushroll with beater bars in addition to brush strips.
"Brushroll": is just that, a brushroll. Some manufacturers call their brushrolls agitators, despite the lack of beater bars.
"Brushbar": a Dyson term, though others have used it; people seem to confuse with beater bar.
"Activator": a Hoover term; an enhanced agitator which has twin helical brush strips, in addition to redistributed beater bars which now cover the spaces between the brush strips. Essentially, it "reactivates" the flattened carpet pile.
mieles5380leo
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I never knew that those have different terms. I'm discussed at myself for using improper ' vacuum ' vocabulary. Thanks for the awesome info rolls_rapide!
rolls_rapide
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Not at all...
... just like everything else in life, nothing is ever simple. Everything seems to be either a maze or a minefield.
... just like everything else in life, nothing is ever simple. Everything seems to be either a maze or a minefield.
suctionselector
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LOOKING
Looking in the new Argos Catalogue shows the new Hoover 'Vortex' machines. I'm not sure if it's deliberate but think about it - the new Turbopower, the new Junior, and now, the new Vortex. Are they trying to live up to the standards that those names hold, rekindling customer's memories of machines they had before with those names, and how good they are, thinking that the newer versions with the same name are as good, or even better? It's a clever ploy for Hoover to sell more product's, but hopefully the customer will realize they've been 'had', as such to speak, and invest their money better next time round, which, if they buy a modern Hoover, may not be long at all.
Also Hoover are making a big deal about having 'A' rated energy efficiency, making it appear that they have spent ages creating the 'ideal' eco product, whilst really, I highly doubt Hoover would have wanted to stop production of their overpowered unreliable screamers they produced, when really it's the new EU law that flipped the table. Hoover bragging about the new energy claims just shows that they are having to turn to advertising like this, which shows that they are struggling to flog cleaners, in a way. You don't see Miele or Numatic having to make massive claims like this to sell volumes of cleaners.
I know this may be my opinion, and the naming thing may just be a coincidence, but that's how I think. Oh, and by the way, if it wasn't clear enough, I don't like modern Hoover cleaners.
Hoover. Who better? Lots.
Jacob
<ol>
<li>http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2445467.htm</li>
<li>http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2571953.htm</li>
<li>http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2789329.htm</li>
<li>http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2765099.htm</li>
</ol>
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Looking in the new Argos Catalogue shows the new Hoover 'Vortex' machines. I'm not sure if it's deliberate but think about it - the new Turbopower, the new Junior, and now, the new Vortex. Are they trying to live up to the standards that those names hold, rekindling customer's memories of machines they had before with those names, and how good they are, thinking that the newer versions with the same name are as good, or even better? It's a clever ploy for Hoover to sell more product's, but hopefully the customer will realize they've been 'had', as such to speak, and invest their money better next time round, which, if they buy a modern Hoover, may not be long at all.
Also Hoover are making a big deal about having 'A' rated energy efficiency, making it appear that they have spent ages creating the 'ideal' eco product, whilst really, I highly doubt Hoover would have wanted to stop production of their overpowered unreliable screamers they produced, when really it's the new EU law that flipped the table. Hoover bragging about the new energy claims just shows that they are having to turn to advertising like this, which shows that they are struggling to flog cleaners, in a way. You don't see Miele or Numatic having to make massive claims like this to sell volumes of cleaners.
I know this may be my opinion, and the naming thing may just be a coincidence, but that's how I think. Oh, and by the way, if it wasn't clear enough, I don't like modern Hoover cleaners.
Hoover. Who better? Lots.
Jacob
<ol>
<li>http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2445467.htm</li>
<li>http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2571953.htm</li>
<li>http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2789329.htm</li>
<li>http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2765099.htm</li>
</ol>
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hi-loswitch98
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Hoover. Who better? Lots.
100% true, sadly.
Or as the Argos Hoover Shop like to call it 'Over 100 years cleaning experience inside every Hoover product'
Pah!
100% true, sadly.
Or as the Argos Hoover Shop like to call it 'Over 100 years cleaning experience inside every Hoover product'
Pah!
suctionselector
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Technically...
Technically its 106 though the last six err... 15 years or so have been terrible. Bring back the Activatior! The Turbopower & Turbomaster! The Junior and the Senior! And the original Vortex, and save one of THE best brands from the pits of household waste centers!
Technically its 106 though the last six err... 15 years or so have been terrible. Bring back the Activatior! The Turbopower & Turbomaster! The Junior and the Senior! And the original Vortex, and save one of THE best brands from the pits of household waste centers!
hi-loswitch98
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Sadly though, it's done now, they'll all be filling the ground.
One thing I noticed now, is that Vax only make a couple of Eco direct filter machines, most of them are Single Cyclonic or Multi Cyclonic. That's quite good really, whereas Hoover have just tarted up their Smart machine & sold it under various names, some of which were pretty decent machines in the past.
Tbh Jacob, Hoover were doing OK when the machines were being produced in the E.U. It was just when they decided to move production to China & abolish they're bagged machines (bar the Purepower & Telios) & introduce horrible cleaners such as the Dust Manager, The One & Alyx. That's when they started to go down hill, about 2005 onwards.
Phew, that took about 5 minuted to write
One thing I noticed now, is that Vax only make a couple of Eco direct filter machines, most of them are Single Cyclonic or Multi Cyclonic. That's quite good really, whereas Hoover have just tarted up their Smart machine & sold it under various names, some of which were pretty decent machines in the past.
Tbh Jacob, Hoover were doing OK when the machines were being produced in the E.U. It was just when they decided to move production to China & abolish they're bagged machines (bar the Purepower & Telios) & introduce horrible cleaners such as the Dust Manager, The One & Alyx. That's when they started to go down hill, about 2005 onwards.
Phew, that took about 5 minuted to write
rolls_rapide
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Looking at the online Argos Hoover Vortex...
...with the zoomed in pictures, reveals...
pleated filters?!
Ha! They can keep it!
...with the zoomed in pictures, reveals...
pleated filters?!
Ha! They can keep it!
