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Blakaeg, they're Air3 comes apart, so when my floorhead cracked Vax sent me a new one complete with the bolt to screw it on to the bottom with.
 
Sebo_Fan,

Where did I blame Dyson for the plastic revolution? Even the mighty HOOVER had warping plastic hoods in 1957! Sears-Kenmore made GREAT use of plastics in the 1970s and 1980s. Really, Hoover was the one who lead the plastic revolution during the late 1980s, when they launched the Elite. the Elite was entirely plastic, in fact it wasn't even HOOVER quality plastics. I've seen many examples with broken fan chambers, but worse of all was those screw tabs on the fan case! those became so brittle over time, they just snapped off! It was there that two kinds of plastics would be known to the vacuum world, the quality drop-it-off-a-roof plastics, like those seen in Sears-Kenmore canisters and Hoover Concepts, Fantoms, and then the look-at-it-wrong-and-it'll-snap-into-a-gazillion-pieces plastics, like those seen in older Dysons, and even some Elites! 
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To Blakaeg

"Vintagerepairer,

I'm not sure what your point is. Of course it costs Dyson money to run the business, it costs EVERY single business money to run operations! I was pointing out that Dyson provide excellent customer service, nothing more, nothing less"

My point was -speaking only in the business sense and in terms also of profit measured in pounds, shillings, and pence- was that one sees on the internet all the time examples of where figures for all sorts of things are quoted but which do not take into account all factor of which the debate or discussion in question relates to.

Your mentioning of £24 said that you'd "heard" this to be the cost, and indeed it was also a figure which I'd read on here before, but as I said that time also, it may be correct that this is the cost to build the machine (I don't know if it is or isn't, as you said later on here, we don't know at all really but certainly it sounds feasable given the low labour costs where the cleaners are made) yet I doubt it takes account of the overheads.

Now, I agree that as far as customer service goes, Dyson are generally rated very highly, and in this day and age people seem to expect only the very best from a big company. I get this. But what many people don't seem to understand is the need for great customer service when the business is actually providing a service -such as your telephone or electricity provider- is pretty much essential, whereas once a product has been purchased, the money has been taken for it upfront at point of sale. As such, to offer poor service would not make any difference to the quantifiable income to that company in the same way it would if I changed my electricity account from one to the other.

What it might do of course is to deter the purchaser from buying that brand again next time, but there is never ever any guarentee that the same brand would have been purchased anyway, had good aftercare and customer service been in place. Added to which, with every day that passes we all become a day older, thus newer purchasers are coming into the market place all the time, and their purchsases of brands which the likes of you and I would never touch will compensate for the differences in sales.

So, my point here is, yes Dyson does offer great customer service, but as an avenue for making money, it is not the most important aspect of their business by a long stretch. I am sure you know Dyson recently scaled back their hours of business considerably when it came to customer service, making me wonder if they've realised what I've thought for many years - that if your cleaner breaks at 10pm on a Saturday night, it really could wait till Monday morning. Likewise taking into account also the cost of administering the cost of spares under warrenty, in many other businesses the cost of doing this would have to be carefully checked against making a more durable part to begin with.
 
customer service can be VERY important to a business, think of it like this: Billy-Joe calls up Dyson because his DC903 snapped in half. if Dyson sends him a new DC903, covered by the warranty, and provides him with a friendly and relaxed customer service agent, Billy-Joe will then think highly of Dyson, and go prancing down the street about what a great company they are. Then Billy-Joe's friends will go out and buy Dyson, then they'll recommend them to their friends, and so on.....


 


Now, if Dyson said to Billy-Joe, "You broke that Dyson yourself, LOL we have your money now, thanks!", then Billy-Joe will NOT think highly of Dyson, and NOT recommend them. 


 


But then again, does a business such as Dyson care what their customers think? Do they really need the extra recommendations when they have flooded the market already? 
 
"But then again, does a business such as Dyson care what their customers think? Do they really need the extra recommendations when they have flooded the market already?"

That's exactly what I am saying. No manufacturer of a product can ever truly know why a slump in sales has occured, unless of course there has been some specific isolated bad-press, for instance a whole batch of something or other being faulty and it making it into the media etc. So the prospect of someone not buying another brand X product due to poor aftercare can't really be quantified as there was no proof they'd buy that brand again anyway. This is in contrast to the service industry who supply regular customers on a montly or annual basis; when they lose a customer they CAN actually quantify the potential losess.
 
Dyson DC04 spares obsolete!!!

Last week I got an Email from Dyson, stating that from December 2014, and January 2015, spare parts and booking service call-outs would cease for the DC04 models!

The general statement was that it was to improve the technological development of newer, more efficient models.

I deleted the email, and can't remember which was being stopped first - I think the call-outs, but cannot be sure.
 
Have you checked the "Deleted" section of your email?
I believe DC04's are serviceable by a dyson till the 3rd Dec, and from Jan 2015 the parts will stop being made
 
I beg to differ....

Had a customer bring me their DC25 which at the time was 7 weeks out of warranty - called Dyson for the customer and they're like... tough luck its $xxx.xx

The customer was pretty disheartened - This is why where I work, I recommend Shark which has 2.5x the warranty of dyson, or the electrolux range which is quieter, has better pickup and is made in europe.
 
Sad news about DC04 parts being made obsolete! Sebo still provide parts for original X1 machines.

I guess Dyson make so many machines. They want you to buy a new machines as opposed to fixing the old one. Quite sad as some owners might not want to 'upgrade'. I better buy a motor for the DC04 in the shed before its too late.
 
Good idea as the DC04 was one of the best dysons made in terms of reliability and overall as a machine
There are £20 1600W motors for the dc04 etc which have slightly more suction
 
Parwaz,

Not in my experience. The DC04 I purchased in 2002, required a 2 or 3 new hoses, 1 new handle, a whole new duct assy (main body) because it cracked and wouldn't keep the handle in (same thing happened to my DC24 - I must be heavy handed LOL). I changed the duct assembly myself on the DC04 but not the DC24. A new upholstery tool, but the one that replaced the older one was made of Polyproplene instead of ABS so the softer nature allowed it to withstand more.

The latest Dysons, even though I do not like the look and feel of the plastic used, may well be more durable as they appear softer, such as the handle at the top of the DC40, DC41 for example. Not trying to defend Dyson here, but I've not seen broken DC40's DC41s or DC50 in the shop, but used to see broken DC01's, 03's and 04's in the shops years ago.

My favourite Dyson was the DC03 and DC04 models. I very much like my DC24, but it hasn't proven to be very durable for me.
 
Cool, I think yours was one of the last to be made in Britain, so must have been fragile. We have a DC04 from 2995, and it is very durable, the plastic is strong, not as flexible as a DC41 and is unlikely to crack.

I broke my DC24 wand when I was turning it, the previous two owners didnt really look after it well, and it needs a new brushbar end cap and cog, then it would be perfect

I currently use a DC14 and DC25 and they both can take a good pounding. The only thing I worry about breaking from either of these machines is the DC25 foot pedal and the DC14 sole plate. Apart from these, I would not worry about these two falling down concrete stairs
 
PS I think once you get your DC04 fixed, you will remember how good it was, I dont blame you for forgetting after all these years (2009 I think was when it burnt out)? But five years I forgot how good the DC25 was shortly after I got rid of mine
 
Parwaz,

No mine was made in Malaysia. There musta been a teething problem as the first DC04 had the side yellow bearing missing, so the head was very wobbly when using. I took it back to John Lewis and got the second replacement machine. This said DC04 on the top and DC07 BRUSH CONTROL on the head and the clutch was quite noisy in use so Dyson came out and changed it within a month of ownership.

My DC24 warranty ends in a few days and I'm dreading it now LOL.
 
I think I may need to go down that route Parwaz if the Dyson fails. They are too expensive new and I'm buying a new place so wont have as much money as I used to. Saying that, Dysons repair service is £75 inclusive if I ever need it.
 
A little late to this party but hey

Speaking from my experience in product design and manufacturing, all plastics are different. Period.

It makes me chuckle when people moan about plastic being flexible, but how idiotic and ignorant people are, good quality plastic is designed to be pliable, it's the method of absorbing impact. Dyson vacuums are ABS which is a very expensive plastic due to its properties, one being the elasticity it has due to it partially being styrene. That's why Dyson are more expensive. Look at the plastic on Vax and Hoover. Says ABS but it's hard as nails, that's why I regularly see bits break. That's why they're cheaper, cheap plastics, which are definitely not ABS.

The only reason why Dyson break is if they have been sun damaged, uv breaks down everything, including ABS.

There's a method to test plastic quality, if it's a deep low noise it's quality, if it's a tinny and high noise it's tat.
 
Adamthemieleman,

I do not agree with you at all. If you are implying that Dysons break because of UV rays wotever. Please explain why my Dyson DC24 has broken at the handle section numerous times. May I point out that this part is NOT exposed as it's within the body of the machine and I also store my machine in a wardrobe!! It is made of ABS plastic. When one looks at the part that keeps breaking, it's a tiny little notch which clearly requires more support than what it was designed for. I see Dyson has corrected this in their DC50. Also, same thing with the older models I had in the past.

Also if you also look first and read the post, it's mentioned that the parts that are bendy are made of POLYPROPYLENE!! Not all of the Dyson is constructed from ABS and Polycarbonate. It is mentioned that the polypropylene parts seem to be flexible and stronger.

SEBO vacuum cleaner, made of thicker moulded ABS plastic, as hard as nails, but its never broken like that!!

So, Dyson perhaps should stick to using lighter bendy plastic for their machines as it seems to be better for their complex designs.
 
Yes, and I recently got an ex condition DC04 Absolute+ which is around 12 years old, and the waddle grip has already broken! It is NOT UV discoloured, and if it is, it is VERY little.
I agree with Blakaeg, my DC24 is only a few years old, so not as old as Blakaeg's and still under warranty. The wand on mine also broke because I turned it a little too hard. I do not disrespect my vacuums. A vacuum must not be. Too flexible (thin or thick plastic regardless) or too solid like the older models.
 
If you scroll up to the pics I have posted earlier in this thread, that's me twisting my DC14 wand handle. It js a solid machine, it does not really flex like the newer ones. The plastic on the DC14 is really thick. How many DC14's do you see with anything broken? Hardly any apart from the odd ripped hose (only when stretched beyond what it is intended for) or a broken cleaner head when the vacuum is dropped from a height. Still more durable than any other Dyson I think.
It took me my hand, my strength and my foot to hold the cleaner with the rear wheels still touching the ground. When I let go the handle went back without the handle bent problem like the DC40 issue that Blakaeg has kindly showed what he has well spotted.
 
Hi Parwaz,

When I posted this pic originally. I meant that Dyson had a moulding issue on their DC40s which meant the handles were all crooked. It seems they are the same and Dyson with their meticulous eye for detail has not noticed this slight imperfection either. It does not affect the use of the machine.

Posted pic again for you. Taken in Currys, New Cross, South London.

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