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OK - Here we go again. Dave, unfortunately, I have done my research and have every reason to believe that Evan posted these things. This is a real shame since I went to some trouble to arrange a delivery of some vintage vacuums to him at the North Canton convention. I have banned him from the forums and sent an email to Alex to cease and desist as well. I have received some pretty foul emails from Evan. I have also deleted the photo above. I hate to think that letting young folks on this forum causes problems, but we have had our share of problems with older folks as well. Hopefully this will end this episode.

Fred

PS - I'd like to take a vote - shall I delete this thread?
 
I am stunned, Fred. Never would I have suspected the Kyle S I got to know through early forum postings of such a 180 degree attitudinal turn, particularly after the multitude of kindnesses sent his way.

By all means delete this sad chapter in the devolution of a young man with so much promise.

Dave.
 
Does it really need to be deleted?

Since there's no outright insults, personal attacks etc, should it be deleted? Especially now the offending photo has been removed. The worst thing said was that 'Kirbys don't clean' - and we all know that's not true, anyway!

I just wonder if, as a club, we should guard against being over-censorial. This thread did originally start as a discussion on HEPA, after all, and lots of people shared interesting views on the topic before things went off-track.

My vote would be to leave it as it is. Of course, I'm happy to go with the majority decision.
 
Do Hepa vacuums stgay hepa

Sandy,
You made me think! I went down and looked up the paperwork.I bought mine on Dec 7,1994. It cost $1010.00 for the machine,power nozzle and something called a Ultra 1000 Purifier. Serial no 9268691. It also came with a 25 year garantee! Mine came with a combination thing that fit on the floor brush to clean rugs. I bought the regular rug tool that has never been used. It cost $45.00 extra per the invoice from Interstate. I had to find the machines. It has the original paper bag in the machine. I never used it over 2-3 times.I am going to get it out tonight for a run! What is funny is that no where on the paperwork is there a model,but they did list the seriel number for the machine and power nozzle.If I am recalling correctly with the filter in polace the machine was very very quiet.
Rob
 
Fred I think that you should delete the posts where all of the nonsense started. Jack is right the discussion did begin with Hepa Vacs in the first place.
 
Dave,

Actually, I think your right. I've noticed, when "Evan" started talking foul, was when "Evan" made a new AIM screen name. Also, if you look in the archives, you'll notice a world of difference in his posts. You'll see excellent spelling and grammar, where as "Evan's" last posts are far from that.

So, maybe this isn't Evan?!? Maybe it's somebody else who's mad at him for whatever the reason is, and posing as him, making all of these posts and IM's??? Hacking into all of his accounts?

~Alex.

PS, another thing to mention, in the past, Evan never seemed to hate Kirby's. Now in this thread, they're the "worst vac ever". I'm clueless
 
Another thing to add, Evan has had two screen names on here. In the postings with excellent spelling and grammar, his screen name is "kirbyboy", and the foul postings his screen name is "kirbyboy1",

~Alex.
 
On the TriStar cloth bags-I have both the new ones and old ones in my collection-if you have them look at the top rim of the bags-the new ones-made of that diffrent rubbery like fabric-have the slightly taller rim-it doesn't fit properly in an older Compact-guess this is part of one of the redesigns.I have seen the older style cloth bags sold thru ESCO,ETC.The machine that I bought new in the late 90's looks just like the one pictured in post#56776.mine came with the "Pignose" HEPA filter element out of the box.It was on the machine when the salesperson unpacked it.-a young black woman-she knew the product well and gave an excellent presentation of the machine.
Another funny thing about the Electrolux flavoer in the TriStar-the actual Lux tools and TriStar tools ARE NOT interchangeable.the wands for the TriStar have a smaller diameter than the Electrolux ones. For a lttle while me and other person were the local distributors of TriStar.But after the motor problems in the MG series machines-we dropped out.And TriStar is distantly owned by Eureka.That explains the "Dumbing down" of the product with the lower quality motor.Yes-older TriStars and FQ's used Lamb-Ametek Motors-and the motors were made in the US.I like the manual wind cord better-its longer than what you have with a cordwinder.what frustrate me most on a High end vac is it having a cord that is too short-My Miracle Mate is like this-Wonderful machine-but the Cord in its cordwinder IS TOO SHORT!!ANNOYING!!
 
ok watch youtube...

For all of you in vacuumland...here is a very interesting and informative video. I have yet to learn how to post a link,,,, so here I go with the info..

Go to youtube, enter "The Miele does work", and click on that video and observe. I really like the part where Jerry sucks all the debris out of the full Dyson. It is very interesting how the Miele bag is no where near full.

What do you think?
 
More Compact / TriStar

First, to Fred:

I don't see anything left in the thread that needs deleting; the cleanup you've done takes care of things, I think, so my vote would be to leave it.

Rob:

You have the "rug shoe" like I have, I think. It's a clear/glitter piece that clips to the bottom of the floor tool, ostensibly converting it to a rug tool. Doesn't work all that well, as I think you've found. You made the right decision to add a proper rug tool to your collection. Please post photos of your machine someday, okay? My TriStar CXL is a very nicely restored machine, complete with everything that came with a CXL when new (and an expensive quest it was, too!), but that's still not the same as an MIB machine. I'd really like to see what the air cleaner looked like - was that the big afterfilter?

Rex:

Ah, now I understand. Thanks for the info on the difference in early bags that fit earlier Compact machines, and later bags that fit TriStars. Hopefully someday, by comparing notes, we can figure out exactly where the "break" comes - the model that is the first re-designed TriStar that uses the newer bag. Appreciate it! P.S.: I just put a new cloth bag and motor filter in my CXL today - amazing how much difference they made. Both the old bag and the old filter were well-maintained, but evidently some dust builds up in those components and decreases performance no matter how well they're taken care of.
 
P.S., Rob:

You're right about the quietude of a TriStar. I personally do not use the big afterfilter, only the standard one (I'm not a big believer in HEPA, for reasons I've stated earlier in this thread), and yet the machine is still extremely quiet - the only machine I own that's quieter is my Lux L, which isn't as powerful as the TriStar CXL.
 
Tri-star

I have that exact same Tri-star. I got mine at a thrift store here in Phx. new in the box with all attachments for $50.00. I thought I was going to pass out!!!! I used it daily when I used to do new home cleaning and appartment clean outs. Nothing can stop that vacuum, much less clog it. I put Glade plug-in in the bottom of that vacuum to make the house smell like I cleaned all day when I didn't.....Bill in Az....
 

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