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Merry Christmas to you too. and to think that a 14 yr old could tell people off that are twice his/her age. I think someone should call his/her parents and let them know what they are dealing with. I could tell you right now "It is not normal"
and alex you are right!!!! it is nice and quiet now that the nagging is done. lol
Merry christmas to all.
 
Tristars-used to sell these-the older models were the best-the older "Pig" style ones.don't have the models at hand now.bought the last of one of these new-Metallic Grey body with the "pignose HEPA" filter.the new MG machines are a minor dissapointment to me-and stopped selling them.Yes the body is tough magnesium metal-but inside is a cheap Chinese motor.the MG machines have less power than the CXL and older ones.some of the Tristar MG's that me and freind sold are coming in to the Vacuum Hospital for motor Replacements!these use the same motors as the Eureka -eletrolux low priced canisters!I don't want to step on toes-and apologize-but that is what I saw when a TriStar MG was opened for motor repairs.I have both the MG1,2 in my collection along with a CXL.In general don't like the "Electrolux" flavor in the newer Tri-Star machines.Like the older ones better.I thought the older "Turbobrush" was better than the "electrolux" type one.
 
Mike,

He isn't 14, he's only 13. He told me months ago that he was 12 when he joined, and lied and said he was 13. I actually waited until my 13th birthday last October.

Right now, we have 11 million inches! Just kidding, we have 8 inches. We'll have a white Christmas indeed! We have a snow "sandwich" actually, first layer is snow, second is a quarter inch of ice, and some more snow. Very chilly, I can't wait until Christmas when I can have my North face jacket!

I'll take some pictures soon, I don't have my camera right now.
 
Rex,

Speaking of "pig-ish" shaped cleaners, I have a nice Compact Electra C6 (I think that's the model). It has all of the attachments, original cloth hose, original paperwork, and the tacky 60's glittery flower power hassock. I love it to bits.I found it in September at a thrift shop for $20. I need to find a filter for it, it has the original, I poked it once and I made a little hole in it. So obviously, it's the original!

I'll post pictures of all of my collection, but again, I don't have my camera. :)

PS, the pig is Turquoise Aqua color, don't know if that helps but I'll throw it in there anyway!
 
I am also trying to look for vacuum cleanrs that came in those Hassock style storage cases-so handy!I have an Aqua Blue Compact-think it may be from the fifties-has a rocket and satellite decal-logo on the machine.It works well.Is the motor filter on yours bad-a newer one should fit.however the newer cloth bags won't fit the older machines-the bag rim is too thick-you can't close the lid.those older Compacts were kinda cool.and they WORK-hard to put them down-same with older filter Queens.In tests I have done at home-My Kirbys will perform better on a carpet than any of my FQ's-however as a canister vacuum-the FQ is better than the Kirby with its hose.I like the older all metal FQ machines best-and yes they are more powerful.Tested with a vac guage and a Baird guage.the older ones have greater airflow and more suction pressure.same thing with the TriStars.the FQ is an interesting vacuum though-the best of both worlds and disposable filter with a bagless container.again empty them outside.forget the stupid newspaper on the floor gag.At one time I lived in a high rise apartment house-one time I was dumping a shake out Kirby bag-and out of the chute I heard-"Cough-cough-Stop emptying that bag"Waited until the other trash patron was done-one the floor below me.I can imagine the cloud of dust he was in when he opened the garbage chute door!
 
Compact / TriStar

The "pig" shaped Compact / TriStar machines were made from 1940-1998 - a pretty phenomenal manufacturing run. There were lots of changes over the years, sort of like the original Volkswagen Beetle - always recognisable, but not the same from year to year.

The last generation of "real" TriStars (the CXL to EX-20 models - 1990-1998) are really good machines. They have Ametek motors. Power nozzles were fitted from the 1970s on (after a false start in the early '60s). Standard filtration was: cloth bag, paper bag, motor filter and afterfilter. You could also buy a big, ugly "superfilter" to replace the standard disc afterfilter; a pic is below.

The cloth bag being sold today should fit Compacts at least back to the C2 (1949-1954). If it does not, I wonder why?

P.S.: Whoever noted the "Electrolux flavour" of current TriStars is more right than he knows. TriStar is now owned by the same company that owns Aerus, once Electrolux in America. Aerus is their retail-sales brand, and TriStar is their direct-sales brand. For some strange reason, my local Aerus agency carries nothing for TriStar; you'd think the company would handle their servicing through local Aerus agencies. I'm also not a big fan of the newer TriStars. The motor issue aside, plastic wands and the lack of a cordwinder are inexcusable on a machine in that price range.

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Do hepa vacuums stay hepa

Sandy,
Thanks for the information on the Tri-Star. I bought one from a door-to-door salesman back in the 90's. Mine looked just like your picture except the after filter was bigger. Mine is still packed away in the original box. I ordered a straight suction rug tool As I remember the Tri-Star had very strong suction and air-flow. The tools were so cool because they were clear with sparkles in the finish. I have never seen or used one of the newer machines. I have the original paper work and I am sure it was something like $1150.00. I remember the salesperson telling me they were a big staus symbol in Japan.
 
Rob:

Wow, an MIB TriStar! Sounds like you might have a CXL, a DXL, or an EX-20. $1150 was a lot for a vacuum back then, but as with everything, they've gotten even more expensive. The suggested selling price (frequently, and often heavily, discounted) for a TriStar Mg2 is $2600.

I also made sure to get a rug tool for my CXL. Not cheap! But it was worth it. My floor tool came with something called a "rug shoe", which is a clip-on adapter that converts the floor tool to a rug tool, but it was not easy to use, and I didn't like the fact that it flattened the floor tool's brush strips when it was clipped onto the floor tool. So, I shelled out something like $65 to get the "real" rug tool. Makes all the difference, because I have some rugs that shouldn't get vacuumed with the power nozzle. I knew about the rug tool because I grew up with a Compact C2; the late TriStar metal tools (rug tool and floor tool) are nearly identical to the C2 tools I was so familiar with.

I also got two extra wands for my CXL, since we have a stairwell with a high ceiling, and the spiders just loooooove it up there. Very nifty vacuum cleaner, and you're right, the clear/glitter tools are cool, at least when they're freshly washed. Their drawback is that they get dirty-looking inside, and it shows up very quickly. The plastic tools (upholstery tool, crevice tool and dusting brush) on the C2 we had when I was a kid were grey. The grille for the upholstery tool was electric blue; it's beige today. For those who aren't familiar with Compact/TriStar machines, the upholstery tool has a little snap-in grille to use when vacuuming curtains, so they don't get sucked into the tool. You take it out for upholstery cleaning, to get maximum suction.
 
A NOTE FROM THE WEBMASTER

OK - Here we go again. Dave, unfortunately, I have done my research and have every reason to believe that Evan posted these things. This is a real shame since I went to some trouble to arrange a delivery of some vintage vacuums to him at the North Canton convention. I have banned him from the forums and sent an email to Alex to cease and desist as well. I have received some pretty foul emails from Evan. I have also deleted the photo above. I hate to think that letting young folks on this forum causes problems, but we have had our share of problems with older folks as well. Hopefully this will end this episode.

Fred

PS - I'd like to take a vote - shall I delete this thread?
 
I am stunned, Fred. Never would I have suspected the Kyle S I got to know through early forum postings of such a 180 degree attitudinal turn, particularly after the multitude of kindnesses sent his way.

By all means delete this sad chapter in the devolution of a young man with so much promise.

Dave.
 
Does it really need to be deleted?

Since there's no outright insults, personal attacks etc, should it be deleted? Especially now the offending photo has been removed. The worst thing said was that 'Kirbys don't clean' - and we all know that's not true, anyway!

I just wonder if, as a club, we should guard against being over-censorial. This thread did originally start as a discussion on HEPA, after all, and lots of people shared interesting views on the topic before things went off-track.

My vote would be to leave it as it is. Of course, I'm happy to go with the majority decision.
 
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Sandy,
You made me think! I went down and looked up the paperwork.I bought mine on Dec 7,1994. It cost $1010.00 for the machine,power nozzle and something called a Ultra 1000 Purifier. Serial no 9268691. It also came with a 25 year garantee! Mine came with a combination thing that fit on the floor brush to clean rugs. I bought the regular rug tool that has never been used. It cost $45.00 extra per the invoice from Interstate. I had to find the machines. It has the original paper bag in the machine. I never used it over 2-3 times.I am going to get it out tonight for a run! What is funny is that no where on the paperwork is there a model,but they did list the seriel number for the machine and power nozzle.If I am recalling correctly with the filter in polace the machine was very very quiet.
Rob
 
Fred I think that you should delete the posts where all of the nonsense started. Jack is right the discussion did begin with Hepa Vacs in the first place.
 
Dave,

Actually, I think your right. I've noticed, when "Evan" started talking foul, was when "Evan" made a new AIM screen name. Also, if you look in the archives, you'll notice a world of difference in his posts. You'll see excellent spelling and grammar, where as "Evan's" last posts are far from that.

So, maybe this isn't Evan?!? Maybe it's somebody else who's mad at him for whatever the reason is, and posing as him, making all of these posts and IM's??? Hacking into all of his accounts?

~Alex.

PS, another thing to mention, in the past, Evan never seemed to hate Kirby's. Now in this thread, they're the "worst vac ever". I'm clueless
 
Another thing to add, Evan has had two screen names on here. In the postings with excellent spelling and grammar, his screen name is "kirbyboy", and the foul postings his screen name is "kirbyboy1",

~Alex.
 
On the TriStar cloth bags-I have both the new ones and old ones in my collection-if you have them look at the top rim of the bags-the new ones-made of that diffrent rubbery like fabric-have the slightly taller rim-it doesn't fit properly in an older Compact-guess this is part of one of the redesigns.I have seen the older style cloth bags sold thru ESCO,ETC.The machine that I bought new in the late 90's looks just like the one pictured in post#56776.mine came with the "Pignose" HEPA filter element out of the box.It was on the machine when the salesperson unpacked it.-a young black woman-she knew the product well and gave an excellent presentation of the machine.
Another funny thing about the Electrolux flavoer in the TriStar-the actual Lux tools and TriStar tools ARE NOT interchangeable.the wands for the TriStar have a smaller diameter than the Electrolux ones. For a lttle while me and other person were the local distributors of TriStar.But after the motor problems in the MG series machines-we dropped out.And TriStar is distantly owned by Eureka.That explains the "Dumbing down" of the product with the lower quality motor.Yes-older TriStars and FQ's used Lamb-Ametek Motors-and the motors were made in the US.I like the manual wind cord better-its longer than what you have with a cordwinder.what frustrate me most on a High end vac is it having a cord that is too short-My Miracle Mate is like this-Wonderful machine-but the Cord in its cordwinder IS TOO SHORT!!ANNOYING!!
 
ok watch youtube...

For all of you in vacuumland...here is a very interesting and informative video. I have yet to learn how to post a link,,,, so here I go with the info..

Go to youtube, enter "The Miele does work", and click on that video and observe. I really like the part where Jerry sucks all the debris out of the full Dyson. It is very interesting how the Miele bag is no where near full.

What do you think?
 
More Compact / TriStar

First, to Fred:

I don't see anything left in the thread that needs deleting; the cleanup you've done takes care of things, I think, so my vote would be to leave it.

Rob:

You have the "rug shoe" like I have, I think. It's a clear/glitter piece that clips to the bottom of the floor tool, ostensibly converting it to a rug tool. Doesn't work all that well, as I think you've found. You made the right decision to add a proper rug tool to your collection. Please post photos of your machine someday, okay? My TriStar CXL is a very nicely restored machine, complete with everything that came with a CXL when new (and an expensive quest it was, too!), but that's still not the same as an MIB machine. I'd really like to see what the air cleaner looked like - was that the big afterfilter?

Rex:

Ah, now I understand. Thanks for the info on the difference in early bags that fit earlier Compact machines, and later bags that fit TriStars. Hopefully someday, by comparing notes, we can figure out exactly where the "break" comes - the model that is the first re-designed TriStar that uses the newer bag. Appreciate it! P.S.: I just put a new cloth bag and motor filter in my CXL today - amazing how much difference they made. Both the old bag and the old filter were well-maintained, but evidently some dust builds up in those components and decreases performance no matter how well they're taken care of.
 
P.S., Rob:

You're right about the quietude of a TriStar. I personally do not use the big afterfilter, only the standard one (I'm not a big believer in HEPA, for reasons I've stated earlier in this thread), and yet the machine is still extremely quiet - the only machine I own that's quieter is my Lux L, which isn't as powerful as the TriStar CXL.
 
Tri-star

I have that exact same Tri-star. I got mine at a thrift store here in Phx. new in the box with all attachments for $50.00. I thought I was going to pass out!!!! I used it daily when I used to do new home cleaning and appartment clean outs. Nothing can stop that vacuum, much less clog it. I put Glade plug-in in the bottom of that vacuum to make the house smell like I cleaned all day when I didn't.....Bill in Az....
 


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