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The entire vacuum is a rebranded Carpet-Pro CPU-3QD. They are selling the same vacuum twice.

Going deeper than that - these vacuums are hodgepodge of recycled parts from older vacuums from past manufacturers that are assembled into one expensive overpriced package.

The base is from Riccar, the middle body is from Panasonic and the top handle and hose system is from a Carpet Pro.

The Bank, Cirrus, Carpet Pro, Titan, and others - all the same maker.

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It seems the Titan units are sold through Steel City and the Carpet Pro through Essco. That just makes it easier for shops to get parts who aren't Tacony dealers. Didn't they kill off the Fuller Brush name?
 
Currently it's a Cirrus in gray, a Titan in black, a CleanMAX in green, and a Powr-Flite in blue. It WAS a CarpetPro in yellow and a Fuller Brush in red. It was also a TaskMaster as well as a Tornado branded upright in black and yellow.
 
How come they sold them under so many names anyway? It reminds me how the Geo Tracker was sold as like 50 different names across the world. lol
 
about 4 years ago when I bought my Cirrus CR79 (green) it was in the $350 dollar range in price. Now, that same vacuum is in the $500's..every year I check out of curiosity it goes up in price...It is confusing because I've seen so many vacuums that look almost identical except for a few minor things.
 
Mark - I think the former ESSCO sourced commercial Cirrus upright was about $500 US Dollars as well as this Tacony rebadged Cirrus commercial upright. The ironic part of it was the TOL ESSCO residential Cirrus CR99 upright not only had more features, but a double stage Ametek motor whereas the commercial upright had only a single stage Ametek motor. One would think it would be the commercial upright with the better motor!

Tom - Here in Canada, Hibbert International is still carrying the Carpet Pro uprights on their website and showing it as active stock, not discontinued. Plus it's still showing up on a Google search on many websites.

I sure do hope that ESSCO doesn't discontinue these Cirrus uprights and replace them entirely with Tacony versions eventually. They were a really nice design - have some features not available on the other Panasonic-style copycats, like the variable speed control on the TOL residential CR99 upright - and I personally think the best built of the bunch. However, with these old school upright designs gradually losing favour with consumers in favour of more modern designs, like the Shark-style swivel upright for example, I think it's only a matter of time. They can't justify manufacturing one variant of this style forever when they can find cost efficiencies with the Tacony style upright that's similar enough and will likely appeal just as much to the same consumers.

Rob
 
well I love my CR-79...never a hint of dust in the bag chamber thanks to the HEPA bags no matter how long I go without changing them...and the after market 14 foot extension hose with tools I can use it as a canister. I hate the tools that came with it I don't use them...I think they are made to be repaired if you take them to a vac shop so hopefully I'll have this one a long time. But I've never seen so many vacuums that look like it...from simplicity to fuller brush to panasonic...prolux... The one thing I do worry about is the handle...I never pick it up by the handle...but using it the vacuum still uses a lot of force pushing the weight back/forth...but so far so good.
 
That is right Rob, the CR99 was around in the $500 range which I think is a fair price. I think what was really dumb of the manufacture was not only the prices went up but they've even cheapened the hose to where it is now clear. I hate clear hoses. At least though they've updated the warranty. I think the CR99 is an excellent upright, my buddy sold those along with the CR79 and a few others when he had his vacuum shop. And I agree with you Rob, I hope those uprights would still be around forever. In my opinion I like them more than the Air-Way versions or others that are similar to the Berninas. They were supposed to be discontinued in favor of the Cirrus line, I guess they decided to continue sticking with those older designs. But I don't think Tacony would replace all of their uprights, at least not the residential ones. Actually I think it's good Cirrus has a Tacony upright in their line. It uses a double stage motor despite the fact that it's 10 amps. The hose is not clear. And they're cheaper than the C-CR9100 especially since the wheels are plastic unlike the C-CPU4T where it's rubber. Honestly if I really wanted to buy a brand new metal bypass upright today, I would get a Tacony made model over the ESSCO ones. Preferably the CleanMax CMPS-QDZ.2 since it's got a lifetime belt and a hall sensor. The CR79 or even the CR99 doesn't offer any of those features and I don't really care about the clutch or the variable speed control. Also about Carpet Pro, from my understanding Carpet Pro isn't being made at this time. At least that's what a rep told me here. They were more focused on CleanMax and their other commercial brands or licensing brands since there's more of a market in the commercial business than there is on the residential side.
 
Hey panasonicvac

that cleanmax looks nice but I'm confused. Would there being no clutch mean that the brushroll is ALWAYS running? Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that's what the clutch did...there is no way in hell I would want an upright with the brushroll always running with no way to turn it off. Surely I'm wrong. It looks like a nice vacuum
 
Mark - Yes, that's right. No clutch = brushroll always running. Not really a issue when using tools since the brushroll gets raised off the ground enough so there's no damage to the carpet. The whole purpose of the clutch in this style of upright is that when you use the clutch, it takes the belt off the motor spindle pulley so the brushroll stops turning to clean bare floors. Don't confuse it with the "clutch" that the Dyson traditional wheeled uprights - like the DC07, DC14, and DC33 used - in the case of the Dyson's, not only does it allow you to shut off the brushroll, but it also acts as belt protection. The belts won't snap if something gets snagged in there - instead the clutch makes that ratchety sound and you stop and fix it.

Alex - I stand corrected on the Carpet Pro uprights. Guess what I saw on that supplier website and online must have been old leftover stock that simply hasn't been depleted yet. Funny thing is, I thought Carpet Pro WAS their commercial vacuum line, and Fuller Brush was the residential vacuum line! Fuller did have 1 or 2 commercial models, but not much.

As for the clear hoses on the Cirrus uprights, I agree with you, they look gross after dirt has built up in them after a few uses! And they look more in place on a $50 Bissell PowerForce from WalMart than a $500 upright. I think ESSCO must have been listening to their customer base and thought consumers would want it so they can see easily if their hose is clogged. As for the Bernina-style upright variants, agreed! I never have liked those uprights AT ALL! They look really cheaply built. And one BIG issue I have with the Prolux variant in particular is they put the pleated HEPA filter as the pre-motor filter - not the right place for it, that belongs on the exhaust!!! Pointless having it there if you have HEPA Cloth bags available to use. Get this - one vac shop guy on YouTube, House Of Vacuums - he won't even touch the Prolux uprights! He says there is too much difference between them and the others that he can't get parts for them. I would assume then that also applies to the Bernina and AirWay uprights then too. But certainly not a good thing if you have a vac shop brand upright that's supposed to be better quality, and here you have 1 vac shop saying they won't even look at them! That's gptta say something about the build quality of those machines. Also, go on Amazon and look at reviews for the Prolux uprights....they have a LOT of bad reviews, and the complaints made in them cite MAJOR issues, not just trivial stuff.

That's nice to know the Tacony commercial uprights have double stage motors, very impressive. Sounds like it's definitely better than the previous ESSCO built Cirrus commercial upright, and a better buy. I wouldn't agree with you though on the features of the Cirrus CR99 though - sure commercial users wouldn't want the variable speed and clutch for brushroll shutoff, and they would prefer the hall sensor and permanent belt, but residential users wouldn't - with the current style going towards hard floor and area rugs in homes, I think if a $500 upright didn't have that feature, it would most likely be a deal breaker to a lot of consumers. And no, I don't see how many would be so willing to have to whip out a hose, extend a wand, put a floor brush on and clean hard floors that way, I think most would say that method would be too awkward and inconvenient.

As for not discontinuing the Bernina style uprights in favour of the Cirrus style, I think ESSCO would have probably put a stop to that quick and not want their upright rebadged and just be another generic upright with a ton of names on it. Keep it as their own unique upright under their own name. Now, as for Tacony not making the residential Cirrus uprights, I still think it could happen. IF they were so willing to rebadge the Carpet Pro style under a ton of commercial upright names, I could totally see how they would sell themselves out to the residential market. And like I said above, this older style traditional upright is slowly but surely starting to grow out of favour with consumers as time passes on, I think ESSCO would do what they have to to make a good quality upright to sell, still make a decent profit, and I think consumers who were looking at it would still think it's a decent enough machine and acceptable enough to purchase if they were in the market for this style upright.

Have a great day Alex! Nice to know there's someone decent who works in the industry on here. :)

Rob
 
Hey Kirbylux thanks...I didn't consider the fact that it would be raised..I was imagining the brushroll spinning into the carpet in the same place while vacuum is parked running...My current Cirrus raises off the ground probably identical to that one..and you're right...the brushroll doesn't touch anything...but on mine it goes off.
 
Thanks Rob, same goes for you and hope that things are going well for you:) Thought I'd mention here that I technically no longer work at a vacuum store as I've moved on with my career, I now sit at an office, however occasionally I'd help out if any of my local vacuum stores are behind or just really busy. But my love of vacuums I know for certain will never go away. I'd still visit my vacuum shops whenever I'd need parts and also check out what they'd have on display. I've seen the new Air-Way uprights my closest dealer has, they're really just rebadged Bernina uprights. While I may not like them as much as the Cirrus versions, I'd still take them over any vacuum Walmart, Target, or Costco would have including Kenmore. I guess to clarify from my previous post, it's not that I don't really like the variable speed control or the clutch, it's just that I wouldn't really use it. Not to mention that they're extra parts I'd need to take apart if I were to completely clean out a Cirrus. But I'll admit that they're both really nice features, in fact I think Cirrus has the best clutch mechanism that I've ever used on a vacuum! However I really like the lifetime belt the CleanMaxx would offer me and the hall sensor that I'd find really useful. I have a relative who owns a Riccar Premium Vibrance R20P.2 and I've accidently vacuumed up bed covers that the hall sensor was luckily able to catch. I've only turned off the clutch maybe a few times on it but didn't really thought it was necessary to do. I don't really like cleaning barefloors with these type of vacuums since they're one sided suction machines. However, I can fit in an extension hose on the back port and I can just use the barefloor tool to easily vacuum the floors as if I would be using a central vac or a canister with a really long hose. I can also do that with a Cirrus as well, if the CR99 would cost similarly to the CleanMaxx CMPS-QDZ.2, then maybe I would consider buying the Cirrus instead. But if I could have a metal bypass upright that would still be made by any company today especially if Hoover was still selling their Dial-A-Matics or Kenmore still selling their Duo-Power, the Riccar Ultra Premium Vibrance R20UP or the Simplicity Ultra Premium Symmetry S20UP is what I'd want to have cause those are the overall best ones that I've ever used at least by far. I wished those two were still being made today.

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I remember how those Ultra Premiums would just SCREAM in the factory when they were testing each one before they were boxed. They used a bath towel nailed on one end to a board and sucked up the towel. God how I hate hall sensors. Those big two-fan motors scream when forced to stop instantly. Many belts broke on that initial stall of the brush, and that was on the assembly line. Probably 1/8 of all the hall sensors failed to stop the motor at all. They had so much trouble with those. The engineering department, bless their hearts, did really try with all the fixes (that's what the "dot" in a model number means - R20UP.2) and I got to see the testing firsthand. The Maytag M700 is the same as the R and S 20UP's. Just threw away three Maytag M700's last weekend. I see so many Tacony machines for service, since we are 8 miles from the factory and they dump machines into the community for free every year. Probably 1/3 of all people in our county are using Tacony machines.
 
My understanding was that everybody was getting that vacuum from the same Taiwanese manufacturer that they had originally worked with. Really the only difference is who could sell it and what color with which name. I'm much prefer these vacuums to their current lineup of Riccar. But the quality is definitely not what it should be for the price most of these sell for.
 

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