British hoover purepower. In the usa!

[thevacuumlover1]

I recently received a brand new hoover purepower pu-2121 from a good friend in England, in exchange for a hoover convertible. The machine is currently out of service due to the fact my 36 lbs transformer hasn't arrived yet. Once i can run it, i will make a video. It's actually quite nice too i'm probably the only person in north america in a suburban home, who has one.

 

[jmurray01]

Phew, at least one is out of the country, ha ha

I hope you enjoy it though.

 

[thevacuumlover1]

yea haha,

I know most people in the uk hate them ahaha, I dont know why exactly i think they are well built for the price

 

[jmurray01]

Overpowered, poorly made & weak upright mechanism, noisy - I could go on but I don't want to rain on your parade, which I fear I've already done... Sorry!

 

[sebo_fan]

Well said JM! Do yourself a favour when you do get yourself a transformer and invest in ear plugs too. Word of advice - gently tap the push down handle release pedal - never use brute force as the pedal is one of the first things to break and if you want to make it easier to push, select a higher height setting to avoid the "pushing potatoes-in-a-sack" feeling. Again, gently tickle the height adjuster slider as this can break off too.

 

[twocvbloke]

Are you sure your house wiring is up to the 2.1 Kilowatts in one lump? Unless you have a 20 Amp breaker on the circuit that you intend to use it on, that thing's going to be popping fuses, I remember my 1.8 Kilowatt Purepoower dimming the lights when it powered up, can't imagine what the 2.1KW is like on powerup........ :S

Dunno why you need a transformer though, the average american home has a 240v service, usually connected to the dryer & water heater, just make up an adaptor between the US style 240v plug and the UK one on the PP, and vac away, though you might need an extension cable given that they're usually far form the living spaces...

 

[jmurray01]

Talking of powerful Vacuum Cleaners, I do remember when we had our awful HOOVER Dust Manager with a 2100W motor I believe, the lights almost went out on the initial power up.

 

[gsheen]

werent there two versions of this unit New model made to a cheap price and a older better model but they look the same , I have worked on a few here and although they look the same earlier versions had a better brush bar and felt moe sturdy, the last one i worked on had the most rubbish brush bar I have ever seen on a proper hoover looking more like something from china. Interestingly all the models I have worked on here have good quality amatek motors in them. 


 


Noisy ,, WHAT DID YOU SAY I WENT DEAFF FROM THE LAST ONE 

 

[gsheen]

Jmurray 


take any 2000watt cylinder vacuum with a longitude mounted motor, Bypass the electronics and soft start . switch it on and whatch it barrel roll on your floor. The torque from the motor is just to much  

 

[jmurray01]

Ha ha, I do hate an overly loud Vacuum Cleaner!

Incidentally my kettle is 2100W which initially surprised me when I saw the rating sticker, but I suppose if it weren't as high it would take as long as my Beko washer to heat water!

It does dim the kitchen lights, if they are on at the time.

 

[gsheen]

Loud is one thing, its the high pitched whine that some make that drives me nuts.


 


 


Kettle I have one of these Morphy Richards glass ones that light up blue when on . also a 2200watt its actually insane. and it doesn't seem to boil any faster than my older 1500watt one. does look cool though

 

[twocvbloke]

The Hoover DustManager is the same as a PurePower, but with a bagless unit fitted into the front rather than having a bag chamber... :S

Incidentally, that clearance store had a couple of dustmanagers, one in a sorry state (probably used, abused and returned as NFFP (Not Fit For Purpose)), the other clean and shiny, but still 2.1 Kilowatts a piece...

 

[jmurray01]

I do not condone violence to Vacuum Cleaners, but the Purepower/Dust Managers are the exception.

KILL THEM ALL!

Oh and Dysons of course!

 

[jmurray01]

"Loud is one thing, its the high pitched whine that some make that drives me nuts." Oh that's so true! My '04 Panasonic MC-E8011 isn't especially loud considering some cleaners made these days, but the high pitched ear piercing sound it makes on full power makes me cringe.

 

[twocvbloke]

I think all I did with my PP was just dismantle it and drop it in the recycling bin (saving parts I wanted to keep for spares), before moving, I found that the bearings from it's brushroll fitted the brushroll in the Vax quicklite I had, so they went in there, the power cable went onto my Junior U1104, and I still have the hose somewhere, dunno what I'll use that for, if anything, I hate stretch-hoses...

 

[jmurray01]

"I hate stretch-hoses..." I love 'em!

As long as you keep one hand on the Vacuum Cleaner so it doesn't act like the Vacuum Cleaner version of Christine, stretch hoses are great.

The one on my Turbopower goes all the way to the top of the stairs with the cleaner left at the bottom.

 

[gsheen]

stretch hoses

I dont mind them either, the one on my dc40 is less springy than other models, I can walk a fair distance from the machine without t following me. like with most modern conveniences there are positives and negative sides, for me in my household the positives outweigh the negatives.


 


If you use them correctly they are great, you can't treat them like a normal crushproof hose.

 

[rolls_rapide]

I actually quite like the design of the Purepowers.

I just wish that Hoover/Candy would fix the weak points on them, namely the weak chassis that can't handle the forces of the release pedal. Also the slim brushroll - God alone knows what their idea was with that design. Oh, and variable suction would be useful too.

 

[gsheen]

weak chassis have always seemed to plague hoover uprights from the UK since he turbopower

 

[jmurray01]

"Also the slim brushroll - God alone knows what their idea was with that design." Oh that was the worst bit, which is saying something.

I don't know why they ever stopped using the activator. Well, actually I do. It was no longer effective because of the constantly increasing wattages of the PP motors making it spin faster.

The activator was only REALLY effective on the Turbopower 1, but still pretty good on the Turbopower 2/1000/3, however completely useless on the Purepower ranges.

 

[rolls_rapide]

My 1500 Watt machine had a large diameter brushroll, minus the activator nodules. Same with mum's 1800W.

The 1350 Watt Vortex had activator with nodules.

The interesting thing is, the slim brushroll on the modern machines, looks like a throwback to pre-1926, the year the agitator with beater bars appeared.

This is a Hoover 541 with slim brushroll.

 

[thekirbylover]

well i think its down to personal taste we should be happy that vacuumlover1 has got a machine he likes we all have different tastes

 

[thevacuumlover1]

To twocvbloke

my house is up to par for a 5000 watt transformer. I need a transformer because the house 240v outlets are misshapen and would be a bitch to rewire and take out and then bring the wiring up through the basement. Some crazy electrician recommended that i buy a UK socket and wire it to my wall. He told me this would cost 400-500 dollars for a electrician to set it up and run wires through my wall, No thanks lol. I'll just wait till the transformer comes.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Another reason I "believe" candy took away the activator brushroll, along with other features like the bag light and autosense, is because it wasn't there design, it was "hoovers" so they had to take all hoovers little nifty features off there vacuums, I guss for copy right purposes when they got bought out, but not 100% sure.

well that is what I heard anyway.

 

[twocvbloke]

Gotta love it when two companies own one name, I wonder if they'll end up with one of the two Hoovers being renamed like how Aerus did from Electrolux when Electrolux bought back their name, just to stop the confusion... :&#92

 

[vintagerepairer]

I am not sure I agree with that Alex, because Candy took over Hoover around 1993, but the Autosense feature carried on long afterwards and right into the Hoover Purepower, because in the original 1997 Purepower collection there was an Autosense model. Personally, I always thought that the removal of certain features was a way of bringing down costs and / or introducing a lower specification cleaner to the market.

What needs to be remembered is that so much has changed to many aspects of life in the last fifteen or so years, due to the internet. This has affected the way we buy anything, not just vacuum cleaners, but as far as the vacuum cleaner market goes, the impact of the internet coupled with the rocketing sales of the early Dyson models has turned it on it's head. Then there has been the dramatic drop in the retail price of almost all electrical goods, and that price difference has to be recouped, be it through the removal of parts and features, or moving production abroad, or whatever else it takes. So it would be impossible to pin-point a specific reason for why vacuum cleaners are being made the way they are today as there are so many factors which need to be accounted for. But the fact remains that whatever we experts think of a cleaner, that same cleaner will have been built the way it was because (A)it is cheap (B) it works and (C) it sells.

 

[rolls_rapide]

I doubt that, on the basis that Hoover Candy acquired all the other design rights that make up the various machines. e.g. the Constellation name.

No, more likely is that Candy is looking to Europe with their love of hard flooring, so the UK has to do without to suit the rest of Europe.

Probably "much cheapness" has a very big hand in it too. Cut costs on all fronts, i.e. "look how much plastic isn't going into our new brushrolls..."

 

[vintagerepairer]

Mr Murray, you make good points about the activator on the Hoover cleaner not being effective on the Purepower, but we must not lose sight of the fact that Hoover had not been overly promoting the beats as it sweeps as it cleans mentality for some time. It was mentioned in their sales brochures and possibly on some cleaners themselves, but you would have to go a long way to find someone who was bothered about the beating action. I think it was a generational thing to be truthful. The need for a beater bar got forgotten as time progressed and indeed for a good deal of time Hoovers competitors had been known to slip in the odd line or two about how their cleaners had no beating action. I am sure it was Hotpoint who were keen to say that their upright vacuum did not beat the carpet and portrayed the action as harmful to the carpet pile.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Rolls_Rapide, love your name by the way, my mother used to own a Rolls Concord, it looks as though you are disagreeing with my post, which I have no problem with of course, but I think you were possibly referring to the one made last by Alex. Could you clarify for me?