BREAKING NEWS: Dyson gives Shark a you-know-what!

[marcusprit]

The filter on the left is the pre motor washable filter. The filter on the right is the post motor Hepa filter which isn't washable.

 

[sebo_fan]

Oh dear. You haven't read my post at all, Marcus.. or so it seems.

If you have watched the video concerned you would have picked up on that error.
The diagram is correct in so far as what each filter does.

Now, Marcus - have you owned a Vax Mach Air? There are very few vents at the front by the motor to allow the motor filter to expel. This is why if you look at the white mesh at the top of the grid, it traps dirt that can be seen to the eye. Yes, it is not washable for the very reason that it sits above the motor!

Also there is no motor at the top of the Vax Mach Air.. so even if the filter is washable, combined with the NLOS filters AND the post motor filter, HEPA can rightly be achieved.

SEBO do things differently Marcus - yes there is a filter above the motor on the Felix but the exhaust filter at the front and that motor filter combined on the Felix contributes to its S-Class standard. The X series has the roll filter which is independent from the motor carbon filter.

A paper pleated cone filter or grid filter does not necessarily mean it is automatically HEPA, in my experience. Some vacuums dependent on their design either overly complicate things OR in terms of bags, add layers of filtration to compensate for just a paper pleated cone filter at the exhaust.

Clearly if a vacuum cleaner has a larger exhaust, then yes, that is where the claimed "clean air" will exhaust from.

 

[marcusprit]

Oh have you posted a video? I've read your review of the Vax cordless.

 

[sebo_fan]

Nope, i didn't post a video of my Vax Mach Air. Or the Reach model I had. I don't post videos of everything I own. I haven't posted a video yet on my Miele S8340 Ecoline, Numatic Henry, or my SEBO 360, or even the new Hotpoint trolley bagless vacuum I have, let alone the Morphy Richards SuperVac.

 

[marcusprit]

Oh well get on the case! Haha

 

[sebo_fan]

Noo. I'd rather write the reviews. Leave Roger to do the mainstream. Do you write reviews as well?

 

[marcusprit]

Oh no I'm hopeless at things like that!

 

[marcusprit]

English is my second language

 

[sebo_fan]

If you look at my profile, you'll see the brands and models I've owned/still own etc

 

[marcusprit]

That's an impressive amount. I currently have 3. I feel inadequate now haha

Where do you keep them?

 

[sebo_fan]

I kept them in my parents home as well as my garage

 

[marcusprit]

My little collection will be increasing to 4 when the Sebo E series comes out.

What do your parents think of your collection?

 

[sebo_fan]

Oh my late parents thought it was very funny. My late father offered to buy several vacuums for me but I worked and saved; but also I have a lot of family who passed on their old vacuums to me.

By the way I changed my review - knocked down from 5 stars to 4 stars. For the main reason the suction through the hose isn't really all that powerful as well as a few design elements that annoy me. Whilst in use today for example, the dusting crevice tool thing fell off from the back. I don't know what I did!

 

[marcusprit]

I'm sorry to hear of your loss. :-(

 

[sebo_fan]

Ty, it was several years ago.

 

[marcusprit]

Must have been tough losing them at a young age. But life goes on.

 

[sebo_fan]

No. My father died in 08 and mum in 2012.

 

[sptyks]

Sorry Nar...

But you've got it all wrong when it comes to the corded or mains powered Hoover Windtunnel Air filters.


 


I happen to own a Windtunnel Air and the filter located at the top of the machine just above the cyclones is the washable pre motor filter. The filter located at the bottom of the vacuum cleaner, right on top of the motor is the post-motor HEPA filter and is not washable.

 

[niclonnic]

Well...

I can see that there are differences between US and UK models. I don't really know what Sebo_fan and Marcus are arguing about.

In addition, the sudden change of subject to the Vax Air Cordless came in when Sebo_fan broke the news about buying said vacuum.

Sebo_fan, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

 

[sebo_fan]

Nic - Sorry for going off topic. Marcus is partly right. It would appear that Vax have got it wrong with their UK user manual - but I remember that there was hardly any air coming out of the vacuum at the point of where the motor is. I can see why Vax suggest the top filter is HEPA though - it does after all emit more hot air from around the top of the vacuum than the bottom.

End of the day the U.S have got the design that we had to put up with on the mains powered Air versions in the UK where the hose is concerned. Very annoying and no where as effective as having it being relocated to the front.

In reference to your original post Nic - it is pure marketing and it isn't worldwide Dyson who have made this statement, but rather the Dyson arm in the U.S