jkbff
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Kirbyloverdan,
My machine was a prototype.
My machine was a prototype.
Brand New TACONY Canister - the Wonder!
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georgect
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What's witht the type of hose?
The hose looks like it's made of the same material that's used in Miele's (and some other vacuums).
The hose has a lot of "spring" to it and no weight which makes it bump into things (plants on tables, TV, furniture) while you vacuum. Sometimes making more of a mess.
Yeah maybe it wont crack in time but it wont get out of it's own way while you work with it and it's very annoying.
It's almost like a shop vac with it's hard plastic hose (just not as wide in diameter).
Can't they add more rubber to it to give it weight so it hangs down and not stick straight out of it's connections?
The hose looks like it's made of the same material that's used in Miele's (and some other vacuums).
The hose has a lot of "spring" to it and no weight which makes it bump into things (plants on tables, TV, furniture) while you vacuum. Sometimes making more of a mess.
Yeah maybe it wont crack in time but it wont get out of it's own way while you work with it and it's very annoying.
It's almost like a shop vac with it's hard plastic hose (just not as wide in diameter).
Can't they add more rubber to it to give it weight so it hangs down and not stick straight out of it's connections?
jade_angel
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If those hoses are like the ones on the current Tacony canisters, they're less springy than the Miele ones. Not sure how they compare to Sebo - while I've used a Sebo canister, I've never used one side-by-side with a Simplicity. They don't drape quite as nicely as the wire-wound hoses used on, say, Filter Queens or current Panasonic PN canisters, but they're not bad.
kirbyloverdan
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I can tell
Someone has no idea how to vacuum with a canister vacuum
The proper way is to wrap hose around your back side in a U
Hold one part with your left hand to pull machine behind you as your pushing
wand part with your right hand to do the vacuuming .
100% control nothing gets in any things way .
Dan
Someone has no idea how to vacuum with a canister vacuum
The proper way is to wrap hose around your back side in a U
Hold one part with your left hand to pull machine behind you as your pushing
wand part with your right hand to do the vacuuming .
100% control nothing gets in any things way .
Dan
GeorgeCT,
I agree with you - I hate those type of hoses as well. I had a Miele Capricorn and the hose was one of the main reasons I got rid of it. It was always in the way.
Kirbyloverdan,
Wrapping it around your waist in a U shape is just not practical when vacuuming in tight quarters or using the above the floor tools and you have the hose in one hand while holding the knick knack being dusted. I much prefer the hoses that are used by Aerus, FQ, Rainbow, etc.
Gary
I agree with you - I hate those type of hoses as well. I had a Miele Capricorn and the hose was one of the main reasons I got rid of it. It was always in the way.
Kirbyloverdan,
Wrapping it around your waist in a U shape is just not practical when vacuuming in tight quarters or using the above the floor tools and you have the hose in one hand while holding the knick knack being dusted. I much prefer the hoses that are used by Aerus, FQ, Rainbow, etc.
Gary
kirbyloverdan
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Gary
I know what you mean about Miele hoses but they are very short and stiffer than other hoses .
My suggestion wrapping the hose around the waist is for vacuuming the hose won't get in the way nor
will the canister get cought up on anything .
I haven't experienced problems with any Tacony vacuum
hose as I always use them to dust . I have lots of antiques and
stuff around I guess I'm just very paitent while I am cleaning and dusting .
Dan
I know what you mean about Miele hoses but they are very short and stiffer than other hoses .
My suggestion wrapping the hose around the waist is for vacuuming the hose won't get in the way nor
will the canister get cought up on anything .
I haven't experienced problems with any Tacony vacuum
hose as I always use them to dust . I have lots of antiques and
stuff around I guess I'm just very paitent while I am cleaning and dusting .
Dan
electromatik
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The hoses Miele and Tacony use are MADE to be springy. Tacony and Miele use "crushproof" hoses and they are designed to "spring" back easily. There is a bit of a battle going on between that type and wire-reinforced hoses. I must say I prefer the wire-reinforced hoses as they are heavier and will NOT kink.
vinvac
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The vacuum looks very nice. I am not a lover of telescoping wands or that style of hose end...to bulky. With that being said, it would still be a first choice vacuum for me.
Still a Kirby or Royal person...you can't beat them.
Wondering about the noise level for this machine...if it is close to the Model G Lux...It would move higher in the pecking order..LOL
Still a Kirby or Royal person...you can't beat them.
Wondering about the noise level for this machine...if it is close to the Model G Lux...It would move higher in the pecking order..LOL
georgect
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About "non-kink" hoses
They really can't kink anymore because most manufactures have smartened up and made 360 degree swivel connections at either the wand end and or the canister end connections.
Or they actually are able to turn freely with in the connections at both ends.
So with that in mind it would be nice to see reinforced hoses come back to be the norm.
It's so much nicer to have the hose have a more "hanging" (down out of the way) property than a "spring loaded" (not so flexible) property.
They really can't kink anymore because most manufactures have smartened up and made 360 degree swivel connections at either the wand end and or the canister end connections.
Or they actually are able to turn freely with in the connections at both ends.
So with that in mind it would be nice to see reinforced hoses come back to be the norm.
It's so much nicer to have the hose have a more "hanging" (down out of the way) property than a "spring loaded" (not so flexible) property.
dysonman1
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The problem with wire bound hoses is the cleaning lady. They always step on them and those hoses STAY flat. A crushproof hose is lighter in weight, less expensive to replace, and doesn't continue to stay flat. You'll note the hose sheath (like Lux used starting with the Oly) to keep it from becoming flat due to gravity while being stored. Everything about this machine was designed from a durability standpoint, and to SURVIVE the cleaning lady. While collectors can wax nostalgic all day about what THEY would want, the machine must be something the average non-vacuum person would not only BUY but can't destroy. The ultimate goal is to have something the dealers can sell for a decent profit, the machine STAYS sold and the customer is happy with their purchase, and repairs can be accomplished easily and inexpensively when it does need one. Those goals have been met. It also cleans extremely well, and is QUIET. I dare say a Model G is slightly louder. Turned them both on today at the Museum, next to each other, and the G is just barely louder than the Wonder.
kirbyloverdan
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Thats a
perfect response Tom , Tacony`s in business to sell to the public and collectors .
If they had to just sell to collectors they would be out of business .
These new machines will be amazing and will be a big hit to consumers and Vacuum shop owners all over the US .
Great Job and I cant wait to get mine .
Dan
perfect response Tom , Tacony`s in business to sell to the public and collectors .
If they had to just sell to collectors they would be out of business .
These new machines will be amazing and will be a big hit to consumers and Vacuum shop owners all over the US .
Great Job and I cant wait to get mine .
Dan
georgect
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Of course I want Riccar/Simplicity (Tacony) to do well.
But this isn't the vacuum for me.
So I'm still up in the air if I should get the classic Riccar Immaculate Premier or keep looking.
Maybe there was something at the VDTA I might be interrested in.
Do we as non-dealers ever get to see what was shown at the VDTA?
But this isn't the vacuum for me.
So I'm still up in the air if I should get the classic Riccar Immaculate Premier or keep looking.
Maybe there was something at the VDTA I might be interrested in.
Do we as non-dealers ever get to see what was shown at the VDTA?
jade_angel
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Hmmm. If it's that quiet, I might seriously think about getting one, and trading my Simplicity 6970 upright. That's a nice machine, but there's no brush roll shutoff for floors and it's pretty loud.
I'm looking forward to my local vacuum shop getting these in so I can test it out for myself.
Incidentally, I've found myself inadvertently acting as a local booster for Tacony sales - I've talked three of my neighbors into buying Simplicity instead of Dyson, and they're all happy (with a Moxie, a Synchrony and a Freedom).
I'm looking forward to my local vacuum shop getting these in so I can test it out for myself.
Incidentally, I've found myself inadvertently acting as a local booster for Tacony sales - I've talked three of my neighbors into buying Simplicity instead of Dyson, and they're all happy (with a Moxie, a Synchrony and a Freedom).
George CT
I cant believe you waited this long to get a new machine. Nothing is perfect and going to be, but from all the things you claim over time you want in a vacuum, I think that Aerus Platinum Canister is the closest match. I have an Aerus Upright for a little over two years now and its not perfect and has some faults; but otherwise its simple to use, cleans well and is idiot proof. I do wish it was sealed and had direct connect tools and an LED headlight. I will agree with the above posts that durability is the most important, because the cleaning lady is a beast. She eats vacuums for lunch!
I cant believe you waited this long to get a new machine. Nothing is perfect and going to be, but from all the things you claim over time you want in a vacuum, I think that Aerus Platinum Canister is the closest match. I have an Aerus Upright for a little over two years now and its not perfect and has some faults; but otherwise its simple to use, cleans well and is idiot proof. I do wish it was sealed and had direct connect tools and an LED headlight. I will agree with the above posts that durability is the most important, because the cleaning lady is a beast. She eats vacuums for lunch!
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The wonder
I love the color of the Wonder . And it looks likes a pretty good vacuum.
I love the color of the Wonder . And it looks likes a pretty good vacuum.
Does anyone know if the made the power nozzle quieter? It looks like a carry over, or did they pull a aerus and just rework the same looking head to make it quieter.
Tom said that the main unit is quieter than a model G and that's quite a feat, hopefully the nozzle is quieter to make it an all around quiet package. I hope this is a new direction for tacony since I'm not overly impressed with my riccar 1800
Tom said that the main unit is quieter than a model G and that's quite a feat, hopefully the nozzle is quieter to make it an all around quiet package. I hope this is a new direction for tacony since I'm not overly impressed with my riccar 1800
kirbyloverdan
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Yes the
Power Nozzle is quieter .
I never had a problem with the noise from my Riccar 1800 I think the machine is perfection I have nothing to complain about the Riccar .
My Aerus Platinum , same thing the power nozzle noise never bothered me it is how I have always remembered Electrolux/Aerus PN sound they have a distinct sound to them which I love .
Dan
Power Nozzle is quieter .
I never had a problem with the noise from my Riccar 1800 I think the machine is perfection I have nothing to complain about the Riccar .
My Aerus Platinum , same thing the power nozzle noise never bothered me it is how I have always remembered Electrolux/Aerus PN sound they have a distinct sound to them which I love .
Dan
I guess that's what bothered me with my 1800 is the PN was loud compared to the hushed noise of the canister.
Love the sound of my electrolux PN can tell the sound of one a mile away. My new guardian platinum with the "quieter" PN just doesn't have that classic sound sadly.
Love the sound of my electrolux PN can tell the sound of one a mile away. My new guardian platinum with the "quieter" PN just doesn't have that classic sound sadly.
kirbyloverdan
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So Glad
I have the original Guardian Platinum that's what I love about the sound of the PN its so distinct .
Just like the sound of a Kirby older Eureka and of course a Hoover Convertible .
Dan
I have the original Guardian Platinum that's what I love about the sound of the PN its so distinct .
Just like the sound of a Kirby older Eureka and of course a Hoover Convertible .
Dan
I know I'm going to ask my lux dealer if he can find me a platinum PN with the stainless on it, I like the look better. But still loving my platinum every time I use it , had it two weeks to the day lol.
Oh and FYI Dan my dealer said they are doing the quiet treatment to all the aerus PN 's now.
Oh and FYI Dan my dealer said they are doing the quiet treatment to all the aerus PN 's now.
kirbyloverdan
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Yeah it`s nicer with the
Stainless plate on it . I LOVE mine the best Aerus since the old metal ones .
I know I heard that also I hate that there goes the sound I so loved .
Dan
Stainless plate on it . I LOVE mine the best Aerus since the old metal ones .
I know I heard that also I hate that there goes the sound I so loved .
Dan
pr-21
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What is the difference between
Tom,
What is the difference between the Simplicity Tool It and the Wonder Canister WOW tool? I bought the tool it because it looks similar and am trying to use it on my Simplicity Symmetry Premium. Hose attached and metal button lock wands. I have only used it once, haven't quite got the hang of the way it maneuvers. Plus the wand size is a hair different. Tape on the wand where it is inserted into the tool will fix the little bit of looseness.
Thanks for your help,
PR-21
Bud Mattingly
Tom,
What is the difference between the Simplicity Tool It and the Wonder Canister WOW tool? I bought the tool it because it looks similar and am trying to use it on my Simplicity Symmetry Premium. Hose attached and metal button lock wands. I have only used it once, haven't quite got the hang of the way it maneuvers. Plus the wand size is a hair different. Tape on the wand where it is inserted into the tool will fix the little bit of looseness.
Thanks for your help,
PR-21
Bud Mattingly
I may bite the bullit!!!
I dont own anything newer than the early 70s , but I may just have to have one of these, if Tom had anything to do with the design, its got to be well made,running a vac shop gives you insight into what breaks most often!
I dont own anything newer than the early 70s , but I may just have to have one of these, if Tom had anything to do with the design, its got to be well made,running a vac shop gives you insight into what breaks most often!
cleaningbuff
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I am going to get one too!
thermokid
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I want to
get one of these vacuums too. Unfortunately I don't know where I would get one around this desolate state. We don't even have a Kirby, Rainbow or Aerus dealer in this state anymore. Maybe I will get lucky and get to buy mine directly from the Tacony factory, and from the vacuum king Tom Gasko. ( Dan.. Lost in Wyoming.)
get one of these vacuums too. Unfortunately I don't know where I would get one around this desolate state. We don't even have a Kirby, Rainbow or Aerus dealer in this state anymore. Maybe I will get lucky and get to buy mine directly from the Tacony factory, and from the vacuum king Tom Gasko. ( Dan.. Lost in Wyoming.)
dysonman1
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Any collector attending the Convention in June can purchase a Wonder (or Prima if you like the blue color) at our Factory Outlet Store.
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