turbo500
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If you don't want me on here I will willingly leave
don't be such a drama queen and enjoy the debate!
don't be such a drama queen and enjoy the debate!
Bagged VS Bagless
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marcusprit
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Its difficult to enjoy the debate when its me against the world. Anyway I shall rejoin a debate when its not a Dyson bashing one. Goodnight
matt8808
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This isn't Dyson bashing. Its about bagged VS bagless and the time it takes for care for each type of machine.
Bagless could be Dyson, Hoover, Vax ect ect
If anything I've tried to be kind to bagless and chosen the Dyson. Had I chosen a direct filter bagless... Say an Electrolux Vitesse you could spend 700 hours cleaning the ruddy filter in 4 years.
Bagless could be Dyson, Hoover, Vax ect ect
If anything I've tried to be kind to bagless and chosen the Dyson. Had I chosen a direct filter bagless... Say an Electrolux Vitesse you could spend 700 hours cleaning the ruddy filter in 4 years.
vintagerepairer
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You know sometimes I think you would all be better off posting in the Junior section. Have any of you grown men got any idea how ridiculous you sound?
turbo500
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Well someone's on a high horse
sptyks
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Well, most of you know my preference, so I will not mention it at this time. However I am sitting back and enjoying this excellent debate.
sebo_fan
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Im with you!
super-sweeper
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Oh gee, poor Matt, do you even know what a can of worms you've opened? Let's see where this goes!
As for me, I'm bagged-bagity-bag bag bag! Whenever I empty a bagless machine, household schmutz always sticks to the cyclones, against the bin. The only exception to this is Fantom, they knew how to design a bagless vacuum! The cuckoo cyclones are not part of the bin, schmutz falls out with ease. However, on those....'other'....bagless vacuums,I find myself constantly beating the bin against the trash bin, creating a giant dust storm.if only I had chosen a bag for the job,I would've been done faster and cleaner! Even my shake-out Kirbys aren't as bad as those things!
As for me, I'm bagged-bagity-bag bag bag! Whenever I empty a bagless machine, household schmutz always sticks to the cyclones, against the bin. The only exception to this is Fantom, they knew how to design a bagless vacuum! The cuckoo cyclones are not part of the bin, schmutz falls out with ease. However, on those....'other'....bagless vacuums,I find myself constantly beating the bin against the trash bin, creating a giant dust storm.if only I had chosen a bag for the job,I would've been done faster and cleaner! Even my shake-out Kirbys aren't as bad as those things!
floor-a-matic
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Rainbow or Filter Queen for bagless; but I much prefer bagged
I have Got three cats and 2 dogs and lots of thick rug and my old DC 41 never had its filter washed it stayed clean for almost a year and a half I never cleaned it or anything but I got rid of it. And my carer has a Dyson DC 40 is about 5 to 6 months old in the filter is still spotless and the whole house is carpeted and it's quite A big house you've got two dogs and 5 people live there it's used every day is emptied every time and she has actually got allergies and she doesn't find A problem at all and there's never a dust cloud It all just simply drop out. There is some bagless machines that wouldn't even touch because They are just filthy like machines with nonaffective cyclone technology seems that just a crappy filters that blocked up easily They are just a nightmare the only bagless machines I will have is Dyson and shark and some VAXes
super-sweeper
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It is a wonder how Dyson got approved by the British Asthma Foundation!
blackheart
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Bagged v Bagless
Gotta go with bagged machines i've owned several bagless ones including a fantom Cyclone XT, Dyson DC-07, 11, and 17, A hoover T series, a dirt devil vibe, shark navigator lift away, etc
Bagless machines have such complex airpaths which causes them to have poor airflow. out of all of the ones i have owned the T series had the most flow with a 3/10 on the baird meter.
Bagged machines often have a simpler air path and this allows them to have higher flow some examples include; Hoover windtunnels 8/10, Simplicity 7/Riccar 8900s 7.5, Electrolux olympia 4.5/10
When i had bagless machines, i would almost always take the bin to the garage to empty, and i'll tell ya when it's -30f outside it's not fun. The bins were dumped nearly every time any of them were used.
The only bagless system i like is the silver king, it's not a true bagless as it uses disposable filter pads
Gotta go with bagged machines i've owned several bagless ones including a fantom Cyclone XT, Dyson DC-07, 11, and 17, A hoover T series, a dirt devil vibe, shark navigator lift away, etc
Bagless machines have such complex airpaths which causes them to have poor airflow. out of all of the ones i have owned the T series had the most flow with a 3/10 on the baird meter.
Bagged machines often have a simpler air path and this allows them to have higher flow some examples include; Hoover windtunnels 8/10, Simplicity 7/Riccar 8900s 7.5, Electrolux olympia 4.5/10
When i had bagless machines, i would almost always take the bin to the garage to empty, and i'll tell ya when it's -30f outside it's not fun. The bins were dumped nearly every time any of them were used.
The only bagless system i like is the silver king, it's not a true bagless as it uses disposable filter pads
super-sweeper
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That air will be 1,500 times dirtier when you empty the vacuum, though! You could drop a sealed HEPA bag off a roof, with no problems. If you empty that Dyson 5 inches off the floor.you have a miniature dust storm! Happens with all my bagless models, it's that silly, inefficient bottom-opening dust bin that's too blame. Fantom, Amway, and Rainbow are the only bagless machines in my possession that have been (whether thoughtfully or on pure accident) designed to prevent this event.
super-sweeper
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....Ok then!....
I prefer bagless in just about any situation, especially with pets. If you have a pet that sheds a lot, a vacuum with a "pet" designation, such as a Dyson Animal, is the way to go. I think pet hair will fill bags very quickly, which means more frequent bag changes, and thus burning through money. I have been accustomed to bagless and have never owned or used a bagged vacuum in my current home.
However, a bagged vacuum has worked in one situation in the past: cleaning out a fireplace. Back in my old apartment, my family owned 2 vacuums: a Eureka Ultra ESP and a Fantom Fury. The Eureka had a hose that clamped onto the bottom, then my mom would use the hose to clean out the fireplace. She said that bagged vacuums make it easy to clean out fireplaces because all of the ash is locked in the bag and makes for easier disposal. Mom, at the time, used the Fantom Fury in that apartment with 3 cats and dark brown carpet. I now live in a home with a gas fireplace, so we don't have to constantly maintain it.
When the bin is full, I take it to the kitchen trash can and empty it. I prefer to do this after every single use, regardless of how full it is. I don't like having dust and dirt sitting in a bin or bag, which can potentially rot and result in bad odors. Then I follow the maintenance instructions in the manual or on the vacuum itself to wash the filter(s) as directed. I've never experienced a loss of suction on a vacuum with two or more cyclones. If you're cleaning up lots of pet hair, a bagless vacuum is much more economical.
However, a bagged vacuum has worked in one situation in the past: cleaning out a fireplace. Back in my old apartment, my family owned 2 vacuums: a Eureka Ultra ESP and a Fantom Fury. The Eureka had a hose that clamped onto the bottom, then my mom would use the hose to clean out the fireplace. She said that bagged vacuums make it easy to clean out fireplaces because all of the ash is locked in the bag and makes for easier disposal. Mom, at the time, used the Fantom Fury in that apartment with 3 cats and dark brown carpet. I now live in a home with a gas fireplace, so we don't have to constantly maintain it.
When the bin is full, I take it to the kitchen trash can and empty it. I prefer to do this after every single use, regardless of how full it is. I don't like having dust and dirt sitting in a bin or bag, which can potentially rot and result in bad odors. Then I follow the maintenance instructions in the manual or on the vacuum itself to wash the filter(s) as directed. I've never experienced a loss of suction on a vacuum with two or more cyclones. If you're cleaning up lots of pet hair, a bagless vacuum is much more economical.
daknx1994
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Bagged vacuums actually compact the dirt they pick up. I have one dog and one cat who both shed like crazy. One of my daily drivers is a Hoover Windtunnel (Bagged). Out of all my bagged machines it seems to have the smallest bag. However, one bag will last me almost two months before needing changed. This is with all of the foot traffic and pets in my house and the bags last way longer than I would anticipate.
super-sweeper
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Niclonnic, take that dirt your [BAGLESS VACUUM HERE] just picked up, and then vacuum it up with a bagged vacuum. notice a difference in size? that's because bagless vacuums "fluff" up the dirt and dust, thanks to all that lovely cyclonic action!
That poor Eureka, if this was one of the fan-first models, I can only imagine what that fan would've looked like!
That poor Eureka, if this was one of the fan-first models, I can only imagine what that fan would've looked like!
Wow...
Of course I've never used a bagged machine, so I was not aware of the "compacting" effect of bags.
Now I'm aware of a side effect of cyclonic technology: the rapidly spinning air "fluffs" out the dirt and makes it look larger than it actually is. Plus, lots of bagless vacuums have an inner chamber in the dirt bin, which itself takes up a lot of the bin's capacity, resulting in a smaller bin.
Of course I've never used a bagged machine, so I was not aware of the "compacting" effect of bags.
Now I'm aware of a side effect of cyclonic technology: the rapidly spinning air "fluffs" out the dirt and makes it look larger than it actually is. Plus, lots of bagless vacuums have an inner chamber in the dirt bin, which itself takes up a lot of the bin's capacity, resulting in a smaller bin.
