Are cordless vacuums overrated?

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For in between job or quick pick up there great i had a black and Decker hand vac (needs a battery ) and that thing was a thank ! lasted a long time whit the battery i loved it just need a base and battery for it if only i could find one.
 
@dysonman1

My concern with the cordless Simplicity vacuums (like the Freedom) is that they are attempting to make the vacuum more convenient by eliminating the cord, but it can still only vacuum flat surfaces like the floor and stairs. At least with some other cordless machines (like the Oreck Pod or Dysons), you can clean hard surfaces, but also items like a bed comforter (with the motorized hand tool) and hard to reach narrow spaces with the crevice tool, similar to a traditional canister machine.

I'm sure the Freedom does a great job on floors and the 50 minute run time is impressive, but it seems to me that this vacuum (and other similar cordless uprights) are not convenient enough, especially when there are other vacuums in a similar price point that do more.
 
@vacuumdevil

I agree. Cordless machines are not quite there yet to be called a true replacement for corded machines, but they will probably be there soon.

I love the convenience of the Oreck Pod for quick pick ups around the house and it excells at removing cat hair from the bedspread with the motorized tool, but when I want a deeper clean on the carpet, the Pod doesn't cut it and I pull out a good corded machine like my Electrolux Epic 3500 or Oreck Platinum Pilot.
 
Why is it an either/or situation?

Each tool (electric vacuum and accessories and wands, etc. versus a cordless rigid "stick" vac configuration) has it's own useful purpose.


 


Why are we all creating this "my vacuum is bigger than your vacuum" scenario?


 


Clearly and indisputably, at this point in time, an electric appliance is superior because it will be able to run indefinitely (pending overheating problems) and have the capacity to be more powerful than a battery operated one (hmm, like a car for example...battery power has severe limitations right now).  Power being the key word and physics issue here.


 


For quick cleanups, of course an excellent quality (as opposed to weak or flimsy) cordless vacuum (most are stick vacuums at this point in time) is the BEST go-to tool for the job.  Why drag out a gorgeous Aerus or Kirby or any other beautiful brand to vacuum up a tablespoon of coffee grounds or cereal that spilled when a "grab, suck and go" technique works just fine for the job.


 


When CLEANING, and I mean really wanting to get up all micro dust, allergens, and everything else our gorgeous vacuums can accomplish, then there is no dispute here. 


 


Certainly a high quality cordless "stick" vacuum like a V10, or Oreck Pod will be good for daily touch ups and a visual appearance of clean, and maybe even a semblance of a deeper clean for the time being, but they are not replacing a full sized vacuum with flexible hoses that allow more maneuverability of the user to reach ALL areas that need attention when cleaning.


 


The aforementioned Simplicity Freedom looks like the first to take the next step in the evolution of cordless vacuums that are finally delivering a more usable battery powered appliance, and hopefully that will pave the way for other brands to compete in higher level machines which are more effective than what we've previously been used to in a weaker cordless machine, however:  Very few other stick vacuums have hoses and attachments that replicate the functionality of a full size electric vacuum like this one does, and therefore are inherently inferior compared to electric vacuums.  We'll see what Dyson can come up with.. maybe it will be the future to have a full power, and long running (over an hour at least!) versatile vacuum cleaner in multiple configurations, i.e.  upright, canister, stick, etc.


 


Also, it really is fun and freeing not to have to worry about an electric cord getting in the way and limiting overall reach when vacuuming.  We're not there yet, but it is a nice vision to have.. just keep working from room to room without losing focus on the task by having to stop and unplug and replug over and over again!


 


I have almost 20 gorgeous powerful vacuums in my collection so far, but still reach for my piece of shit Hoover Air 2in1 stick/hand vac to quickly sweep up larger visible debris on surfaces when company is coming, or I've had a small dry spill of something.  That's what they're for.  And there is a need for that type of handy appliance.  The more powerful it can be, obviously the better.. that should be our conversation!  Which one really is the best in that limited category.


 


Nothing compares to running an electric vacuum for as long as one wants, interchanging tools on the go, getting into every nook and cranny.  It's a satisfying experience that we all can relate to.


 


In the future, maybe battery technology will allow machines to run longer and have more CPM or Air Watts, or whatever quantifier one chooses to measure a cordless vacuum by, but for now, they are an auxiliary tool, and should be appreciated on a qualitative basis amongst each other and not compared to a full size electric vacuum.

[this post was last edited: 9/18/2018-12:31]
 
@completenutt

This is a vacuum collector's forum after all and the OP's original question asked for cordless recommendations. Sure, there is always a bit of friendly competition on forums like this. But, I find it helpful to hear what others have to say about specific machines, they are often things I have not considered before.

I do agree though that it doesn't have to be an either/or situation; both types of vacuums (corded and cordless) can compliment each other.
 
Honestly, I think it's about time that we start seeing real cordless full size vacuums. If I can go drive an electric car 200 miles on one charge at interstate speeds then there's no reason we can't have full powered vacuum cleaners that happen to run off batteries. The technology for it is here. The only thing holding electric cars back right now is the lack of fast charging infrastructure making long trips difficult. Vacuums don't have that limitation, you'll never be far from an outlet when vacuuming your house. They keep making cordless vacs with small 30 volt batteries in them, let's stick a 100 volt battery in them and a real motor.
 
Shark Ion P50

I think that this Shark Ion P50 is the first real attempt to create upright with onboard tools.
Yes yes I know that many hate Shark brand, but that's not my point.
I have been waiting for a cordless upright because I just don't like limitations of the stick vacuums.
Run time is now up to 30 minutes and it has the power to pass the crevice test (floorboard cracks) with ease.
That's something what even many mains powered vacuums can't do.
It doesn't quite have airflow to match the corded vacuums, but it's getting there.
Cleaning head seems to be well optimized for it to use all the airflow what it has.
 
@mike811
Shark has yet to create anything by themselves they're cheap ripped off of something else.

TTI /Hoover has had this out for years.

Full-sized cordless upright with tools.
Simplicity also makes the Agogo

There's also lindhaus with and with out tools .

So those are some uprights with tools , that came out before Shark.

They're all have also been cordless full size Backpacks made by numerous manufacturers for years.
Also who can forget the Miele hybrid s4000 cordless canister vacuum.





https://www.hoovercommercial.com/bagged-uprights/hushtone-cordless-upright-vacuum/
 
Hoover/Vax Air Cordless is what I know very well.
Simplicity Agogo and Lindhaus is new for me.

My main point was that everyone seems to be over excited about stick vacuums. I just don't see them to be very convenient at all to replace the mains powered vacuums.
Limit in the bin and battery size is the problem. Biggest problem is lack ow real power.
I personally would like to see more new cordless uprights/canisters with decent power = Bigger batteries and motors.
What we have now isn't clearly enough.

Cordless Numatic Henry canister is best what I have seen so far, but it still should be more powerful.
 
HUSHTONE CORDLESS UPRIGHT VACUUM


Okay I just saw the link about the Hoover Hushtone and it indeed looks very good!
 
There is a cool look Ryobi shopvac cordless, its nearly $200 with the big battery, $90 with only the vac unit. I have their various powered tools and two chargers but the cordless yard blower only has a 4 amp battery, am told not enough run time to clean the car, the complete set has a 9. It looks very well designed, love that, but really needs a second battery option or ac possible too I think. Still crave it though.
 
At this point in time, battery technology isn't to the point that cordless units can take the crown... and it may not be for quite some time.

Someone mentioned Tesla... and that's all hype and no delivery. Tesla's car's are a joke in a way. Their state of the art battery on their super high tech car weighs in at over 500lbs, and can only take the car 100miles on a good day with the wind blowing right before you have to wait a few HOURS to refuel.. Plus, if it's extremely cold, the battery has trouble producing the power.

A current gasoline powered engine can 300-400 miles on 15 gallons of fuel, and Re-fuel in 5 minutes.

In the vacuum world, directly powered units can provide significantly more power, as they are always plugged into their fuel source.

With a cordless vacuum, people are discarding performance for perceived convenience...

Where an electric car driver is exchanging distance and easy refueling for the ability to pretend you are better than anyone who drives a gas car.
 
I think the issue is that these battery powered stick vacs are not even designed with the intention of replacing 'real' vacuums. They're made to be good stick vacs that are light weight. I think if a company made an actual full size upright that was powered by a battery like a big power tool battery (think of a battery powered lawn mower) it would probably be just as good as a mains-powered vac.

I think, though, that they probably don't want to make a product that would directly compete with their current products.
 

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