wyaple
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suckolux
I wish you had a method of measuring airflow for your V6. Do you have a Baird meter handy?
Bill
I wish you had a method of measuring airflow for your V6. Do you have a Baird meter handy?
Bill
Are cordless vacuums overrated?
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suckolux
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no, not a bit. It pulls in from the sides and front before I get to stuff, so I would guess its managed air flow pretty good? Oh high its very hard to move on carpet, it clamps
sharkvacuum
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Totally overrated. Everyone is now praising Dyson V10 without realising that it only has 54 cfm of airflow. And that is on the max settings so you only get 7 min runtime.
Corded Dyson uprights have around 70-80 cfm and good bagged vacuums 80-100 cfm or even more. Direct air vacuums way over 100 cfm.
Problem still is the battery technology. How they are now, cordless vacuums would be way too heavy with the strong enough batteries.
Good for quick pick ups and "maintenance" vacuuming, but not even close to replace the mains powered vacuums.
I have Shark Rocket HV320UKT and it has 55 cfm. I would never try to keep my apartment clean only with it. OK for bare floors, but not enough power for medium pile carpets.
Corded Dyson uprights have around 70-80 cfm and good bagged vacuums 80-100 cfm or even more. Direct air vacuums way over 100 cfm.
Problem still is the battery technology. How they are now, cordless vacuums would be way too heavy with the strong enough batteries.
Good for quick pick ups and "maintenance" vacuuming, but not even close to replace the mains powered vacuums.
I have Shark Rocket HV320UKT and it has 55 cfm. I would never try to keep my apartment clean only with it. OK for bare floors, but not enough power for medium pile carpets.
human
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They may be fine for spot pick-ups, but the tradeoffs between power and battery life make them completely unsuitable for whole house cleaning.
completenutt
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I think battery technology is changing fast and will be able to deliver more juice for much longer periods of time.
That being said, for now, I agree with Edgar, they are only suited for touch ups or focused work for a short period of time.
That will change, I'm sure.
http://https//www.google.com/search...b..2.15.1866.6..35i39k1j0i20i264k1j0i131k1j0i
That being said, for now, I agree with Edgar, they are only suited for touch ups or focused work for a short period of time.
That will change, I'm sure.
http://https//www.google.com/search...b..2.15.1866.6..35i39k1j0i20i264k1j0i131k1j0i
crazykirbydude
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Mike811...
Where did you get 70-80 CFM for Dyson uprights from? Modern Dyson uprights pull no more than 54 CFM! Speaking of cordless vacuums, I always get "range anxiety" when I use one. I never know when I'm going to run out of power, so I tend to rush and miss spots. If you REALLY want a cordless vacuum, go with the aforementioned Riccar Supralite Cordless.
Where did you get 70-80 CFM for Dyson uprights from? Modern Dyson uprights pull no more than 54 CFM! Speaking of cordless vacuums, I always get "range anxiety" when I use one. I never know when I'm going to run out of power, so I tend to rush and miss spots. If you REALLY want a cordless vacuum, go with the aforementioned Riccar Supralite Cordless.
Dyson DC65 pulls baird 4 = 76 cfm from the hose. From the nozzle it's 52 cfm.
Dyson V10 54 cfm straight from the machine and 25 cfm from the nozzle.
For example Miele C3 canister pulls 103-108 cfm from the hose and 67-73 from the nozzle (powerhead).
Dyson V10 54 cfm straight from the machine and 25 cfm from the nozzle.
For example Miele C3 canister pulls 103-108 cfm from the hose and 67-73 from the nozzle (powerhead).
henrydreyfuss
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The best ones are close, but still don't deep clean rugs
They can be a fantastic supplementary cleaner. They're super convenient for bare floors, above-the-floor dusting, counter-tops, baseboards, and cleaning the car, but I agree with the consensus here that they can't compare yet to a corded cleaner (on carpeting, the exception being the offerings from Tacony).
However, I do adore my Dyson V8, and will always keep a kickass cordless around. I use my Dyson V8 more than any of my other vacuums, because it's so quick and easy to use. Worth finding a good deal on one!
They can be a fantastic supplementary cleaner. They're super convenient for bare floors, above-the-floor dusting, counter-tops, baseboards, and cleaning the car, but I agree with the consensus here that they can't compare yet to a corded cleaner (on carpeting, the exception being the offerings from Tacony).
However, I do adore my Dyson V8, and will always keep a kickass cordless around. I use my Dyson V8 more than any of my other vacuums, because it's so quick and easy to use. Worth finding a good deal on one!
compactc9guy
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quick job
For in between job or quick pick up there great i had a black and Decker hand vac (needs a battery ) and that thing was a thank ! lasted a long time whit the battery i loved it just need a base and battery for it if only i could find one.
For in between job or quick pick up there great i had a black and Decker hand vac (needs a battery ) and that thing was a thank ! lasted a long time whit the battery i loved it just need a base and battery for it if only i could find one.
easyhomevacuum
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Depends on what you are looking for and how big your home is and flooring types around your home?
Dyson DC65 pulls baird 4 = 76 cfm from the hose. From the nozzle it's 52 cfm.
Dyson V10 54 cfm straight from the machine and 25 cfm from the nozzle.
https://easyhomevacuum.com/
Dyson DC65 pulls baird 4 = 76 cfm from the hose. From the nozzle it's 52 cfm.
Dyson V10 54 cfm straight from the machine and 25 cfm from the nozzle.
https://easyhomevacuum.com/
vacuumdevil
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Buy German corded vacuum
No , they're still not a replacement for full size vacuum !
Just buy a nice canster vacuum and call it good .
The Dysin V10 I tested made me sick for the price they ask .
www.miele.com
No , they're still not a replacement for full size vacuum !
Just buy a nice canster vacuum and call it good .
The Dysin V10 I tested made me sick for the price they ask .
www.miele.com
luxkid1980
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@dysonman1
My concern with the cordless Simplicity vacuums (like the Freedom) is that they are attempting to make the vacuum more convenient by eliminating the cord, but it can still only vacuum flat surfaces like the floor and stairs. At least with some other cordless machines (like the Oreck Pod or Dysons), you can clean hard surfaces, but also items like a bed comforter (with the motorized hand tool) and hard to reach narrow spaces with the crevice tool, similar to a traditional canister machine.
I'm sure the Freedom does a great job on floors and the 50 minute run time is impressive, but it seems to me that this vacuum (and other similar cordless uprights) are not convenient enough, especially when there are other vacuums in a similar price point that do more.
My concern with the cordless Simplicity vacuums (like the Freedom) is that they are attempting to make the vacuum more convenient by eliminating the cord, but it can still only vacuum flat surfaces like the floor and stairs. At least with some other cordless machines (like the Oreck Pod or Dysons), you can clean hard surfaces, but also items like a bed comforter (with the motorized hand tool) and hard to reach narrow spaces with the crevice tool, similar to a traditional canister machine.
I'm sure the Freedom does a great job on floors and the 50 minute run time is impressive, but it seems to me that this vacuum (and other similar cordless uprights) are not convenient enough, especially when there are other vacuums in a similar price point that do more.
luxkid1980
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@vacuumdevil
I agree. Cordless machines are not quite there yet to be called a true replacement for corded machines, but they will probably be there soon.
I love the convenience of the Oreck Pod for quick pick ups around the house and it excells at removing cat hair from the bedspread with the motorized tool, but when I want a deeper clean on the carpet, the Pod doesn't cut it and I pull out a good corded machine like my Electrolux Epic 3500 or Oreck Platinum Pilot.
I agree. Cordless machines are not quite there yet to be called a true replacement for corded machines, but they will probably be there soon.
I love the convenience of the Oreck Pod for quick pick ups around the house and it excells at removing cat hair from the bedspread with the motorized tool, but when I want a deeper clean on the carpet, the Pod doesn't cut it and I pull out a good corded machine like my Electrolux Epic 3500 or Oreck Platinum Pilot.
completenutt
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Why is it an either/or situation?
Each tool (electric vacuum and accessories and wands, etc. versus a cordless rigid "stick" vac configuration) has it's own useful purpose.
Why are we all creating this "my vacuum is bigger than your vacuum" scenario?
Clearly and indisputably, at this point in time, an electric appliance is superior because it will be able to run indefinitely (pending overheating problems) and have the capacity to be more powerful than a battery operated one (hmm, like a car for example...battery power has severe limitations right now). Power being the key word and physics issue here.
For quick cleanups, of course an excellent quality (as opposed to weak or flimsy) cordless vacuum (most are stick vacuums at this point in time) is the BEST go-to tool for the job. Why drag out a gorgeous Aerus or Kirby or any other beautiful brand to vacuum up a tablespoon of coffee grounds or cereal that spilled when a "grab, suck and go" technique works just fine for the job.
When CLEANING, and I mean really wanting to get up all micro dust, allergens, and everything else our gorgeous vacuums can accomplish, then there is no dispute here.
Certainly a high quality cordless "stick" vacuum like a V10, or Oreck Pod will be good for daily touch ups and a visual appearance of clean, and maybe even a semblance of a deeper clean for the time being, but they are not replacing a full sized vacuum with flexible hoses that allow more maneuverability of the user to reach ALL areas that need attention when cleaning.
The aforementioned Simplicity Freedom looks like the first to take the next step in the evolution of cordless vacuums that are finally delivering a more usable battery powered appliance, and hopefully that will pave the way for other brands to compete in higher level machines which are more effective than what we've previously been used to in a weaker cordless machine, however: Very few other stick vacuums have hoses and attachments that replicate the functionality of a full size electric vacuum like this one does, and therefore are inherently inferior compared to electric vacuums. We'll see what Dyson can come up with.. maybe it will be the future to have a full power, and long running (over an hour at least!) versatile vacuum cleaner in multiple configurations, i.e. upright, canister, stick, etc.
Also, it really is fun and freeing not to have to worry about an electric cord getting in the way and limiting overall reach when vacuuming. We're not there yet, but it is a nice vision to have.. just keep working from room to room without losing focus on the task by having to stop and unplug and replug over and over again!
I have almost 20 gorgeous powerful vacuums in my collection so far, but still reach for my piece of shit Hoover Air 2in1 stick/hand vac to quickly sweep up larger visible debris on surfaces when company is coming, or I've had a small dry spill of something. That's what they're for. And there is a need for that type of handy appliance. The more powerful it can be, obviously the better.. that should be our conversation! Which one really is the best in that limited category.
Nothing compares to running an electric vacuum for as long as one wants, interchanging tools on the go, getting into every nook and cranny. It's a satisfying experience that we all can relate to.
In the future, maybe battery technology will allow machines to run longer and have more CPM or Air Watts, or whatever quantifier one chooses to measure a cordless vacuum by, but for now, they are an auxiliary tool, and should be appreciated on a qualitative basis amongst each other and not compared to a full size electric vacuum.
[this post was last edited: 9/18/2018-12:31]
Each tool (electric vacuum and accessories and wands, etc. versus a cordless rigid "stick" vac configuration) has it's own useful purpose.
Why are we all creating this "my vacuum is bigger than your vacuum" scenario?
Clearly and indisputably, at this point in time, an electric appliance is superior because it will be able to run indefinitely (pending overheating problems) and have the capacity to be more powerful than a battery operated one (hmm, like a car for example...battery power has severe limitations right now). Power being the key word and physics issue here.
For quick cleanups, of course an excellent quality (as opposed to weak or flimsy) cordless vacuum (most are stick vacuums at this point in time) is the BEST go-to tool for the job. Why drag out a gorgeous Aerus or Kirby or any other beautiful brand to vacuum up a tablespoon of coffee grounds or cereal that spilled when a "grab, suck and go" technique works just fine for the job.
When CLEANING, and I mean really wanting to get up all micro dust, allergens, and everything else our gorgeous vacuums can accomplish, then there is no dispute here.
Certainly a high quality cordless "stick" vacuum like a V10, or Oreck Pod will be good for daily touch ups and a visual appearance of clean, and maybe even a semblance of a deeper clean for the time being, but they are not replacing a full sized vacuum with flexible hoses that allow more maneuverability of the user to reach ALL areas that need attention when cleaning.
The aforementioned Simplicity Freedom looks like the first to take the next step in the evolution of cordless vacuums that are finally delivering a more usable battery powered appliance, and hopefully that will pave the way for other brands to compete in higher level machines which are more effective than what we've previously been used to in a weaker cordless machine, however: Very few other stick vacuums have hoses and attachments that replicate the functionality of a full size electric vacuum like this one does, and therefore are inherently inferior compared to electric vacuums. We'll see what Dyson can come up with.. maybe it will be the future to have a full power, and long running (over an hour at least!) versatile vacuum cleaner in multiple configurations, i.e. upright, canister, stick, etc.
Also, it really is fun and freeing not to have to worry about an electric cord getting in the way and limiting overall reach when vacuuming. We're not there yet, but it is a nice vision to have.. just keep working from room to room without losing focus on the task by having to stop and unplug and replug over and over again!
I have almost 20 gorgeous powerful vacuums in my collection so far, but still reach for my piece of shit Hoover Air 2in1 stick/hand vac to quickly sweep up larger visible debris on surfaces when company is coming, or I've had a small dry spill of something. That's what they're for. And there is a need for that type of handy appliance. The more powerful it can be, obviously the better.. that should be our conversation! Which one really is the best in that limited category.
Nothing compares to running an electric vacuum for as long as one wants, interchanging tools on the go, getting into every nook and cranny. It's a satisfying experience that we all can relate to.
In the future, maybe battery technology will allow machines to run longer and have more CPM or Air Watts, or whatever quantifier one chooses to measure a cordless vacuum by, but for now, they are an auxiliary tool, and should be appreciated on a qualitative basis amongst each other and not compared to a full size electric vacuum.
[this post was last edited: 9/18/2018-12:31]
luxkid1980
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@completenutt
This is a vacuum collector's forum after all and the OP's original question asked for cordless recommendations. Sure, there is always a bit of friendly competition on forums like this. But, I find it helpful to hear what others have to say about specific machines, they are often things I have not considered before.
I do agree though that it doesn't have to be an either/or situation; both types of vacuums (corded and cordless) can compliment each other.
This is a vacuum collector's forum after all and the OP's original question asked for cordless recommendations. Sure, there is always a bit of friendly competition on forums like this. But, I find it helpful to hear what others have to say about specific machines, they are often things I have not considered before.
I do agree though that it doesn't have to be an either/or situation; both types of vacuums (corded and cordless) can compliment each other.
myles_v
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Honestly, I think it's about time that we start seeing real cordless full size vacuums. If I can go drive an electric car 200 miles on one charge at interstate speeds then there's no reason we can't have full powered vacuum cleaners that happen to run off batteries. The technology for it is here. The only thing holding electric cars back right now is the lack of fast charging infrastructure making long trips difficult. Vacuums don't have that limitation, you'll never be far from an outlet when vacuuming your house. They keep making cordless vacs with small 30 volt batteries in them, let's stick a 100 volt battery in them and a real motor.
Shark Ion P50
I think that this Shark Ion P50 is the first real attempt to create upright with onboard tools.
Yes yes I know that many hate Shark brand, but that's not my point.
I have been waiting for a cordless upright because I just don't like limitations of the stick vacuums.
Run time is now up to 30 minutes and it has the power to pass the crevice test (floorboard cracks) with ease.
That's something what even many mains powered vacuums can't do.
It doesn't quite have airflow to match the corded vacuums, but it's getting there.
Cleaning head seems to be well optimized for it to use all the airflow what it has.
I think that this Shark Ion P50 is the first real attempt to create upright with onboard tools.
Yes yes I know that many hate Shark brand, but that's not my point.
I have been waiting for a cordless upright because I just don't like limitations of the stick vacuums.
Run time is now up to 30 minutes and it has the power to pass the crevice test (floorboard cracks) with ease.
That's something what even many mains powered vacuums can't do.
It doesn't quite have airflow to match the corded vacuums, but it's getting there.
Cleaning head seems to be well optimized for it to use all the airflow what it has.
vacuumdevil
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@mike811
Shark has yet to create anything by themselves they're cheap ripped off of something else.
TTI /Hoover has had this out for years.
Full-sized cordless upright with tools.
Simplicity also makes the Agogo
There's also lindhaus with and with out tools .
So those are some uprights with tools , that came out before Shark.
They're all have also been cordless full size Backpacks made by numerous manufacturers for years.
Also who can forget the Miele hybrid s4000 cordless canister vacuum.
https://www.hoovercommercial.com/bagged-uprights/hushtone-cordless-upright-vacuum/
Shark has yet to create anything by themselves they're cheap ripped off of something else.
TTI /Hoover has had this out for years.
Full-sized cordless upright with tools.
Simplicity also makes the Agogo
There's also lindhaus with and with out tools .
So those are some uprights with tools , that came out before Shark.
They're all have also been cordless full size Backpacks made by numerous manufacturers for years.
Also who can forget the Miele hybrid s4000 cordless canister vacuum.
https://www.hoovercommercial.com/bagged-uprights/hushtone-cordless-upright-vacuum/
